The original AdapteveR

[SharonLM]

Thanks Thad:

Here's something I found that other's like me (who know so little about batteries) might find interesting and if followed comforting:

www.moltech.com/.../ Lithium%20Ion%20Batteries%20Handling%20Precautions.pdf

Carefully read this instruction manual before using Lithium Ion batteries for the first
time.

Important: For your safety and that of your customers observe all cautionary information provided in
this manual. Save this manual for future reference. The following information is intended to highlight
potential safety hazards that can be associated with the misuse, misapplication or damage to Lithium
Ion batteries. Please carefully evaluate the information in this section when using Lithium Ion
Batteries (This manual refers to battery packs only and NOT single cells) or when using or
manufacturing equipment incorporating Lithium Ion batteries.

This manual is no substitute for your independent evaluation of equipment incorporating Lithium Ion
batteries. Customers incorporating Lithium Ion batteries into their equipment must assure that their
completed product has been properly designed, manufactured and tested. End users of equipment
incorporating Lithium Ion batteries should also be provided with sufficient warnings and instructions
on their safe operation. As appropriate, some or all of the following warnings and information should
be incorporated by you into the instruction manual accompanying your equipment.

DANGER!

1. Do not disassemble or modify the battery pack. The battery pack is equipped with built-in
safety/protection features. Should these features be disabled, the battery pack can leak acid,
overheat, emit smoke, burst and/or ignite.

2. Do not connect the positive (+) and negative (-) terminals with a metal object such as wire. Do
not transport or store the battery pack together with metal objects such as necklaces, hair pins, etc.
Otherwise, short-circuiting will occur, over-current will flow, causing the battery pack to leak acid,
overheat, emit smoke, burst and/or ignite, or the metal object such as wire, necklace or hair pin can
generate heat.

3. Do not discard the battery pack into fire or heat it. Otherwise, its insulation can melt down, its gas
release vent or safety features will be damaged and/or its electrolyte can ignite, possibly leading to
acid leakage, overheating, smoke emission, bursting and/or ignition on it.

4. Do not use or leave the battery pack near a heat source such as a fire or a heater (+80ºC or
higher). If the resin separator should be damaged owing to overheating, internal short-circuiting
may occur to the battery pack, possibly leading to acid leakage, smoke emission, bursting and/or
ignition of the battery pack.

5. Do not immerse the battery pack in water or seawater and do not allow it to get wet. Otherwise,
the protective features in it can be damaged, it can be charged with extremely high current and
voltage, abnormal chemical reactions may occur in it, possibly leading to acid leakage, smoke
emission, bursting and/or ignition.

6. Do not recharge the battery pack near fire or in extremely hot weather. Otherwise, hot
temperatures can trigger its built-in protective features, inhibiting recharging, or can damage the
built-in protective features, causing it to be charged with an extremely high current and voltage and,
as a result, abnormal chemical reactions can occur in it, possibly leading to acid leakage, overheating,
smoke emission, bursting and/or ignition.
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7. To recharge the battery pack, use the battery charger specifically designed for the purpose and
observe the recharging conditions specified by MOLTECH POWER SYSTEMS. A recharging operation
under non-conforming recharging conditions (higher temperature and larger voltage/current than
specified, modified battery charger, etc.) can cause the battery pack to be overcharged, or charged
with extremely high current, abnormal chemical reaction can occur in it, possibly leading to acid
leakage, overheating, smoke emission, bursting and/or ignition.

8. Do not pierce the battery pack with a nail or other sharp objects, strike it with a hammer, or step
on it. Otherwise, the battery pack will become damaged and deformed, internal short-circuiting can
occur, possibly leading to acid leakage, overheating, smoke emission, bursting and/or ignition.

9. Do not strike or throw the battery pack. The impact might cause leakage, overheating, smoke
emission, bursting and/or ignition. Also, if the protective feature in it becomes damaged, it could
become charged with an extremely high current and voltage, abnormal chemical reactions can occur,
which can lead to acid leakage, overheating smoke emission, bursting and/or ignition.

10. Do not use an apparently damaged or deformed battery pack. Otherwise, acid leakage,
overheating, smoke emission, bursting and/or ignition of the battery pack may occur.

11. Do not directly solder the battery pack. Otherwise, heat can melt down its insulation, damage its
gas release vent or safety features, possibly leading to acid leakage, overheating, smoke emission,
bursting and/or ignition.

12. Do not reverse the positive (+) and negative (-) terminals. Otherwise, during recharging, the
battery pack will be reverse-charged, abnormal chemical reactions then may occur, or excessively
high current can flow during discharging, leading to acid leakage, overheating, smoke emission,
bursting and/or ignition.

13. The positive (+) and negative (-) terminals are arranged in a particular orientation. Do not force
the connection if you cannot easily connect the battery pack terminals to the battery pack charger or
other equipment. Confirm that the terminals are correctly oriented. Reversing the terminals will
result in reverse-charging, possibly leading to acid leakage, overheating, smoke emission, bursting
and/or ignition of the battery pack.

14. Do not connect the battery pack to an electrical outlet, vehicle cigarette lighter, etc. When
subjected to large voltage, over-current can flow on the battery pack, possibly leading to acid
leakage, overheating, smoke emission, bursting and/or ignition.

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15. Do not use the battery pack for a purpose other than those specified. Otherwise, its guaranteed
performance will be lost and/or its service life will be shortened. Depending on the equipment in
which the battery pack is used, excessively high current can flow through battery pack, possibly
damaging it and leading to acid leakage, overheating, smoke emission, bursting and/or ignition.

16. If the battery pack leaks and the electrolyte gets into the eyes, do not rub them. Instead, rinse
the eyes with clean running water and immediately seek medical attention. Otherwise, eye injury
may result.

WARNING

1. Do not use the battery pack in combination with primary battery packs (such as dry-cell battery
packs) or battery packs of different capacities or brands. Otherwise, the battery pack can be over-
discharged during use or overcharged during recharging, abnormal chemical reactions may occur,
possibly leading to acid leakage, overheating, smoke emission, bursting and/or ignition.

2. If recharging operation fails to complete even when a specified recharging time has elapsed,
immediately stop further recharging. Otherwise, acid leakage, overheating, smoke emission, bursting
and/or ignition can occur.

3. Do not put the battery pack into a microwave oven or pressurised container. Rapid heating or
disrupted sealing can lead to acid leakage, overheating, smoke emission, bursting and/or ignition.

4. If the battery pack leaks or gives off a bad odour, remove it from any exposed flame. Otherwise,
the leaking electrolyte may catch fire and the battery pack may emit smoke, burst or ignite.

5. If the battery pack gives off an odour, generates heat, becomes discoloured or deformed, or in any
way appears abnormal during use, recharging or storage, immediately remove it from the equipment
or battery pack charger and stop using it. Otherwise, the problematic battery pack can develop acid
leakage, overheating, smoke emission, bursting and/or ignition.

CAUTION

1. Do not use or subject the battery pack to intense sunlight or hot temperatures such as in a car in
hot weather. Otherwise, acid leakage, overheating and/or smoke emission can occur. Also, its
guaranteed performance will be lost and/or its service life will be shortened.
2. The battery pack incorporates built-in safety devices. Do not use it in a location where static
electricity (greater than the manufacturer’s guarantee) may be present. Otherwise, the safety devices
can be damaged, possibly leading to acid leakage, overheating, smoke emission, bursting and/or
ignition.

3. The guaranteed recharging temperature range is 0°C to +45ºC. A recharging operation outside
this temperature range can lead to acid leakage and/or overheating of the battery pack and may
cause damage to it.

4. If acid leaking from the battery pack comes into contact with your skin or clothing, immediately
wash it away with running water. Otherwise, skin inflammation can occur.

5. Store the battery pack in a location where children cannot reach it. Also, make sure that a child
does not take the battery pack out of the battery pack charger or equipment.

6. Before, use study carefully the Operation Manual and Precautions. For further information contact
the nearest MOLTECH POWER SYSTEMS distributor or representative. Keep the manual safe for future
reference.

7. For recharging procedures, refer to the Operation Manual of your battery pack charger.

8. If you find rust, a bad odour, overheating and/or other irregularities when using the battery pack
for the first time, return it to your supplier or vendor.



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[WhateveR]

wow!!! now that is a mouthful... very informative.. a must read...

 

[youtubecommercial]

Wow SharonLM very good find! I did not know about the hair pins thing I will now be more careful were I carry my batterys in my purse cuz I do think I was putting them with hair pins and other metal objects.. jez now I know that was a no no Thanks for the information!

 

[SharonLM]

I'm glad it helped. For me it was in simple language that I could understand. I know so little about batteries and when I read of them exploding etc. I didn't know why. This helped some with the do's and don'ts.

Thad, I'm so glad you kept giving us the warning about the batteries, it made me look up something that I could understand. Without your continual warning I would have just gone on my merry way. And, like you, YouTube, I wouldn't have thought about the hair pins, coins, etc. I try to not leave the e-cig in a hot car, but once in a while I think, "oh heck, I'll just be a little while", now I'll be more careful. And, now I understand why they sell those little plastic battery cases. I thought those were just for people who wanted to be neat, now I understand the importance of them. I also understand a little more about properly charging a battery.

 

[truelove]

Thanks sharon for the great info!

 

[truelove]

Well looks like thad forgot me again so i just put in my order for both 6V HVS.

No love for old #13 or true...shame.

 

[WhateveR]

Well looks like thad forgot me again so i just put in my order for both 6V HVS.

No love for old #13 or true...shame.

Sorry truelove... was not intentional... my mind seems a little overwelmed lately... if you need anything feel free to PM me or send an email, I will for sure get back to you.

 

[WhateveR]

so is anyone interested in a 401 IA for their AR? That is I think next on the list as soon as the 801's are out the door...

I'm open to suggestions...

 

[truelove]

Sorry truelove... was not intentional... my mind seems a little overwelmed lately... if you need anything feel free to PM me or send an email, I will for sure get back to you.

Thanks Thad, will do .

 

[Moonflame]

I'd be interested in the 401 and I know my friend who has the Adaptever, but is too lazy to read and post on the forums, wants one too.

 

[linkdead]

Well that did it I just ordered my adaptever. Getting an 801 hope it compliments my 901 screwdriver.

 

[truelove]

Thanks Thad!

Got both HVS's today will post a video for you later this week.

 

[BradCarroll]

Thad,
I currently own a Ultimo ecig and have loads of automizers for it.
Can the adaptever use theese automizers and if so which adapter will I need?

 

[SKYYcamel]

Hi Thad. I'm using protected 16340 batteries in my AdapeveR and was wondering which HVS I should order. I'm hoping the 16340's will fit in one of them. Thanks. Also, (stupid question alert) if they do fit, do I just put 2 in the HVS?

 

[WhateveR]

AdapteveR recomended batteries:


BATTERIES:
3.6v CR123 single battery version (3.6V/3.7V cell)
DealExtreme: $4.90 TrustFire Protected 3.6V 880mAh 16340/CR123A Batteries (2-Pack)
DealExtreme: $3.19 Ultrafire LC 16340 3.6V 1000mAh Protected CR123A Battery
DealExtreme: $5.08 Ultrafire 3.6V 880mAh LC 16340 Protected CR123A Battery 2-Pack

6.0v CR123 double battery version (3.0v per cell)
DealExtreme: $4.50 17340 / CR123A Rechargeable Lithium LiFePO4 Battery 2-Pack (350mAh)
DealExtreme: $4.15 LC 17335 3V 1000mAh CR123A Battery 2-Pack
DealExtreme: $2.77 17340 / CR123A Rechargeable Lithium LiFePO4 Battery (350mAh)

6.0v CR2 double battery version
DealExtreme: $3.82 Rechargeable 3V CR2 800mAh Green 2 Packs



CHARGERS:
CR123 3.0V AND 3.6V DUAL VOLTAGE CHARGER
DealExtreme: $11.54 UltraFire 3.0V/3.6V CR123A Charger

CR2 3.0V
DealExtreme: $5.48 CR2 Battery Charger


These are not the "end all, be all" of batteries and chargers, but are in the right direction...

please use protected batteries... understand there are risks when using unprotected Lithium Ion batteries... not only are they more dangerous, but they may be too short to work in the current AdapteveR... The current AdapteveR was designed around protected batteries... and saving a few pennies is not worth the added risk... To my knowledge rechargeable CR2 batteries are not available with a PCB protection circuit... I only produce the HVSCR2X2 sleeve to accommodate those that are familiar with the risks involved in using unprotected Lithium Ion cells... Those unfamiliar with the risks and safe handling of unprotected Lithium Ion cells should only choose the HVSCR123X2 sleeve...

Lithium ion batteries and how they work... for those interested...
HowStuffWorks "How Lithium-ion Batteries Work"

Thank you!

 

[drum of ny]

I got my AdapteveR on Monday. I have been using it nonstop since then. It has been working pretty well. On the first day of use the button was sticking in the on position every so often. I figured it just needed to be worked in. Half way through the second day it stopped sticking all together. The action from the button has been point on since then. Just today though I have been getting the occasional missfire. This can be partly attributed by my dripping technique (technique is a strong word here). Sometimes I need to swab up the extra juice that has accumulated. Other times this seems not to be the problem. What I do when this happens is just unscrew then rescrew either the top part or the adapter or the atomizer, then I press the button again. Sometimes just pressing the button again does the trick. If the problem persists I will just replace the button with the extra one provided. Anyhow...I will keep yall updated on this situation.

Overall I am very happy with this vaporizer. I love the construction and the ease of switching the atomizer insert. I bought both tubes to use six volts. So far I am far more impressed with two cr123a 3.0v batteries than the two cr2's. I bought Tenergy batteries from BatteryJunction: Tenergy LiFePO4 RCR123A 3.0V 750mAh Rechargeable Battery (as low as) $2.79 ea!. These are the batteries the guys at puresmoker recommend for their 6/5v option. I have some coming from Dealextreme and will let yall know the difference.

There is only one thing I don't like about the AdapteveR. It is not a sealed unit. If you drip too much or overfill your carts, the liquid goes on the inside of the unit. I really wish it was a sealed unit. This is in no way a deal breaker, just something I was unaware of and found a little dissapointing.

To sum up my introductory experience with this vaporizer: it is great. I would recommend it to anyone. I think it would be perfect for anyone who wants a REAL vaporizer and is unsure of what set up they want. This PV allows you to try all sorts of different battery setups with all kinds of atomizers. I had never tried out the 501 atomizer at six volts until this device showed up at my door. It's awesome. I see now why so many people rave about it. I normally use a pen style atomizer (the BE112 being my favorite) and I look forward to seeing how it compares, I just have to wait for the insert to arrive in the next couple of days. Once again if you want to buy a serious PV and want the ability to try different volts and atomizers, this is the device for you. If you know exactly what you want already, this device will deliver as well. The only downfall of the device is if you direct drip be aware of the potential spillage that can make it's way to the inside of the device. Cheers.

 

[Grey_]

I have these: TrustFire Protected 3.6V 880mAh 16340
and these: Ultrafire 3.6V 880mAh LC 16340 Protected CR123A

The Trustfire do not fit all that well in my Adaptever. It's a substantially bigger battery. So my advice would be stick with the Ultrafires.

Here's a picture

From a quick measurement with a ruler the Trustfires look like 37mm and the Ultrafires look like just under 35mm. You can put the Trustfire in and screw it closed but just barely, and it doesn't 'feel' like it screws on as flush as with the Ultrafire. To me it felt like it was putting undue stress on the Adaptever. It could be my tube tho, like the inside isn't completely centered so maybe the length is off slightly too:

This ^^^^ was a hard picture to take properly hehe. But you can see how the inside is thicker towards the top and thinner at the bottom.

 

[WhateveR]

There is only one thing I don't like about the AdapteveR. It is not a sealed unit. If you drip too much or overfill your carts, the liquid goes on the inside of the unit. I really wish it was a sealed unit. This is in no way a deal breaker, just something I was unaware of and found a little dissapointing.

Hi Drum, sorry to hear you are having a sealing problem... for the most part your unit is sealed... by most, I mean there are no entry holes or direct paths for liquid to enter the battery compartment... This should provide a decent seal in most cases... However there is not a rubber o-ring and the unit will not be 100% sealed without one... I will look into this...

If you are having trouble with juice leaking inside, one thing to check is that the IA is seated fully in the "nosecone".

To do this:
1. Loosen the small set screw...
2. Hold down the IA (insert adapter) firmly...
3. Re-tighten the set screw...

Hope this helps...

 

[WhateveR]

for anyone who is curious about the size differences between standard voltage and the two HVS (high voltage sleeves)

first pic shows the cr123x2 HVS sleeve

second pic shows the cr2x2 HVS sleeve

 

[WhateveR]

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