The perfect long lasting vapeing machine (brain storm)

[Don Graham]

Let me add my two cents to this conversation. The only answer to the top part of the PV is to build your own (I mean wick and wire) I too have always wondered why coils don't last very long. The answer to that is functional obsolescent. The companys that makes coils, wicks, and wire do not want to make a perfect long lasting coil. If they make a long lasting coil the money gravy train is over.
Have you ever wondered why a light bulb can last 650 hours and we cannot get 24 hours out of our coils. The answer is tungsten wire. I will bet if you build your own coils out of the same gage wire that is used in light bulb. You would end up with a long lasting vapeing machine. I have not researched this yet because the idea just popped into my brain. One more idea!! What if you used a ceramic wick with tungsten wire. Now that might be the perfect long lasting vapeing machine. I also would like to mention. I myself have never built a coil, but I soon will.

 

[Baditude]

My eyes!!

 

[stacee jaxx]

Let me add my two cents to this conversation. The only answer to the top part of the PV is to build your own (I mean wick and wire) I too have always wondered why coils don't last very long. The answer to that is functional obsolescent. The companys that makes coils, wicks, and wire do not want to make a perfect long lasting coil. If they make a long lasting coil the money gravy train is over.
Have you ever wondered why a light bulb can last 650 hours and we cannot get 24 hours out of our coils. The answer is tungsten wire. I will bet if you build your own coils out of the same gage wire that is used in light bulb. You would end up with a long lasting vapeing machine. I have not researched this yet because the idea just popped into my brain. One more idea!! What if you used a ceramic wick with tungsten wire. Now that might be the perfect long lasting

vapeing machine. I also would like to mention. I myself have never built a coil, but I soon will.

If you're going to post something best if you don't use invisible ink !.

 

[wyetterp]

RBA's rock. Sounds like you may be on to something. Maybe post over in the RBA section about
tungsten. I'd bet someone knows a little about it.

I'm guessing it would be super expensive & require a lot of watts to be effective for our application.

 

[Dougiestyle]

I get a few weeks out of my nichrome and Kanthal coils. Just sayin'.

I believe incandescent bulbs have an inert gas and other stuff inside that help prolong the lightbulb filament. I'm unsure of tungsten in contact with my vapor production and/or its safety.

 

[nudcall]

I kinda enjoy building my coils. Gives me a small sense of accomplishment each time. And the bonus is that it is cheep to maintain my RBA....

 

[Kemosabe]

standard attys do last me a long time. ive got a joye atty that ive had for almost a year. and its still going strong. sure, i dont use it everyday but that doesnt mean i havent put hundereds of milliliters through it. if you clean your attys regularly, they will last a long long time.

as far as RBAs go, the wire is so cheap it doesnt matter when you need to replace it. you wont be losing money, thats for sure. a lifetime's supply of wire is like 10 bucks. ive had the same wick and wire in my first genny since late november. and its still going strong. sure i had to brush off the gunk a few times but this badboy is rockin, just like the first day i built it- better, actually. again, i dont use it all day every day but i sure does get a lot of use. im not saying the tungsten idea isnt a good one (it might be a great idea, it might not i honestly dont know), but what i do know is that my kanthal is plenty strong enough. once you have a hot-spot-free coil, the setup becomes like a tank trouncing through ounces upon ounces of e-liquid.

 

[Bunnyboy]

im sure you get hotspots ALL THE TIME if you use tungsten. LOL. portable light bulb. dual function of your pv! haha.

im wondering how tungsten would work out. keep us updated!

I'm kidding!

 

[joshisqt]

Well be sure to be safe.

 

[mccawley]

Light bulbs are also brought down to a zero vacuum and then filled with Argon gas.
Not to mention nothing (Juice) touches the filament.

Your toasters also use filaments, It lasts 'cause the toast doesn't make direct contact.
Unless you lie the toaster down sideways and cook a Grilled cheese sandwich in it for several weeks. (This works by the way)

The trick is to NOT let juice touch the filament. Maybe wrap the wire around a glass tube that pulls juice through it?

 

[stacee jaxx]

Let me add my two cents to this conversation. The only answer to the top part of the PV is to build your own (I mean wick and wire) I too have always wondered why coils don't last very long. The answer to that is functional obsolescent. The companys that makes coils, wicks, and wire do not want to make a perfect long lasting coil. If they make a long lasting coil the money gravy train is over.


The words "economic viability" come to mind. Like tyre inner tubes, tyres, batteries, your cars alternator the whole world is disposable it keeps the global economy going. If you want something that lasts then usually you have to pay a fortune for it and thats what some people do isn't it.

 

[Don Graham]

Let me add my two cents to this conversation. The only answer to the top part of the PV is to build your own (I mean wick and wire) I too have always wondered why coils don't last very long. The answer to that is functional obsolescent. The companys that makes coils, wicks, and wire do not want to make a perfect long lasting coil. If they make a long lasting coil the money gravy train is over.


The words "economic viability" come to mind. Like tire inner tubes, tires, batteries, your cars alternator the whole world is disposable it keeps the global economy going. If you want something that lasts then usually you have to pay a fortune for it and that's what some people do isn't it.

So let me see if I understand what you have written. So you think that it is a bad idea to want to build a better mouse trap (tungsten coil) because it will ruin the world economy. Thinking like that is why we are in a mess right now.
Do the word suppressed tech ring any bells.

 

[-iD]

I think you meant to label it "planned obsolescence"

tap'd on my Google Galaxy Nexus

 

[Don Graham]

Thanks, maybe I should have said that. To me functional means, something that works or dose not work. The word planned inplys something that will happen in the future.

 

[Kanj.nguyen]

So let me see if I understand what you have written. So you think that it is a bad idea to want to build a better mouse trap (tungsten coil) because it will ruin the world economy. Thinking like that is why we are in a mess right now.
Do the word suppressed tech ring any bells.

No, it is not a bad idea because it ruins the economy, it is a bad idea because the economy dictates it to be.

So its not like the economy is dependent on whether you make a long lasting device or not; whether or not a long lasting device is made depends essentially on the economy. The key is determining the dependent variable.

 

[Don Graham]

No, it is not a bad idea because it ruins the economy, it is a bad idea because the economy dictates it to be.

So its not like the economy is dependent on whether you make a long lasting device or not; whether or not a long lasting device is made depends essentially on the economy. The key is determining the dependent variable.[/QUOTE

So the economy will be the one to give me permission to build a new mouse trap. Interesting concept. BUT I DON'T THINK SO. No one tells me what to think or what i may invent. Or when I can do either of them. The end.

 

[Kanj.nguyen]

teenage rebel much?

The concept that you find interesting, you dont seem to understand. Put it to you this way: invent whatever you want, it is when you start selling it that you realize it most likely does not make sense commercially.

You could make a titanium mouse trap that lasts for decades, sure, but nobody is gonna buy it when the disposable ones get the job done at a lower cumulative price. Decision theory? Anyone?

Cadillac could make cars that survive a meteor hit. But they wont do it. They are no fools as far as business sense goes. That means there is a commercial reason why.

 

[tj99959]

Take that tungsten light bulb filament out of that argon gas and it will last 0.0000001 seconds.

 

[Don Graham]

Take that tungsten light bulb filament out of that argon gas and it will last 0.0000001 seconds.

I want you to educate yourself VP Master before making such a statement. Please go to google and type in 'tungsten filaments and click on the image button at the top of the search page. Once there click a photo that shows a coil that might work in a tank.Here is something to read over: Titanium Wire|Hebei General Metal Netting Co.,Ltd.

 

[Kanj.nguyen]

I want you to educate yourself VP Master before making such a statement. Please go to google and type in 'tungsten filaments and click on the image button at the top of the search page. Once there click a photo that shows a coil that might work in a tank.Here is something to read over: Titanium Wire|Hebei General Metal Netting Co.,Ltd.

Do you even know why the argon gas is there?

The bottom line is, just because you CAN do something doesnt make it a good idea. Theres a video of a guy vaping with a car battery. Sure, you can do it. You could drive a motorcycle with one foot down the high way you wanted to, but that wouldnt make you any less of an idiot. Hypothetically.

Pay more attention in Physics and Economics classes. They are there for a reason. I really hate to write this kind of criticizing posts, and frankly i couldnt care less if you waste your own money and time, but this kind of self-importance with severely lacking self-education is painful to see.