The proper way to absorb nicotine.

[xDarkRelic]

So I've heard a lot of people debating on this. Some say full mouth to lung, and hold it. Some say straight to lung and hold it.

Others say mouth to back of throat for the hit, then blow out slowly from the nose for the best absorption.


Is there any proven way to vape that gets the maximum nicotine? I always alternate but I'm curious to what everyone does/think.

 

[WillyZee]

I inhale the same as when I smoked ... only now, I exhale out my nose.

 

[stevegmu]

Nicotine is absorbed quickest through mucous membranes; the lungs being the largest in the body. I inhale and hold the vapor...

 

[Rat2chat2]

I vape exactly like I smoked but here is a good explanation for you.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ecf-library/337017-inhalation-technique-e-cigarette.html

Hope this helps.

 

[FlamingoTutu]

Since most people reading this won't read the whole article, here is the important part about absorption.

4. E-Cigarette vapor is a water-based mist and not smoke. This has two main consequences:
a. The droplet size in vapor is much larger than the particles in smoke, and therefore it does not penetrate as deeply into the lungs. Vapor aerosol is ten times the particulate size in smoke (10 microns vs 1 micron). Vapor cannot go anywhere near as deep, and this means that nicotine is not available so easily from the lungs, and is obtained more slowly.

 

[Rickajho]

Nicotine absorption from electronic cigarette use: comparison between first and new-generation devices : Scientific Reports : Nature Publishing Group

No matter how you do it, the prevailing theory - backed up with testing - is what's more important is how long you do it. Trying to make vaping feel or act like a cigarette just isn't gonna happen. While increasing the sheer volume of the vapor - and thus the exposure to more nicotine in more vapor - might make your total absorption of nicotine increase - it's still never going to be a cigarette like "smack you upside the head" experience. If the absorption methodology was the same as with cigarettes the nicotine blood levels from vaping would increase at similar rates - and they don't. Not even close.

 

[DergBerg]

Personally if I am just looking to get my nicotine, I do rapid mouth to lung inhales (a lot like a traditional cigarette really). Usually this is how it plays out.

1) Mouth to lung 3X within 10 seconds
2) A couple lung inhales
3) Mouth to lung inhales with relaxed exhales, most of the vaper being expelled from my nose.

Of course this changes from time to time. If I am trying out a new juice at a shop, I tend to do a couple huge lung inhales to get the liquid started.

YMMV, so find what works for you!

Edit: Also, French inhales work very well! It gets that vapor deep into my lungs.

 

[TaketheRedPill]

Nicotine transfer is pretty immediate - within the first few seconds - so I'm not sure how much more nicotine breathholding would extract? probably not much.

 

[The Cloud Minder]

I vape exactly like I smoked but here is a good explanation for you.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ecf-library/337017-inhalation-technique-e-cigarette.html

Hope this helps.

Even though there are caveats in the article, it seems vastly ignorant on one point:

E-Cigarette vapor is not drawn directly into the lungs, as many smokers do with a tobacco cigarette.

I don't think there is hardly anyone who would disagree that direct lung inhale is far more prevalent with PV users than cigarette smokers.

 

[Shotglass]

Nicotine transfer is pretty immediate - within the first few seconds - so I'm not sure how much more nicotine breathholding would extract? probably not much.

Actually, the nicotine transfer by vapor is several seconds slower than by smoke. There's an article/blog about it here somewhere. I'm sure you could find it using a search.

sent from tapacrap

 

[DergBerg]

Nicotine transfer is pretty immediate - within the first few seconds - so I'm not sure how much more nicotine breathholding would extract? probably not much.

You're exactly right! In fact, I don't get nearly the buzz if I inhale straight to my lungs and hold it. I use my french inhale to cut down on my clouds without sacrificing the buzzzz.

 

[93gc40]

There is no CORRECT way to vape or smoke.. There is the way you vape or smoke. Actualy Mouth to lung or direct lung inhales, do more to tell me about the type of smoke you may have been.... Cigarette, pipe, cigar or other device that will get edited. Once you turn the juice to steam the nic carried in that steam, when you suck on the mod, gets absorbed into the mucus membrane it encounters.

 

[GinnyTx]

what works for you is best.

now what works for me..inhale holding in mouth a second or two..take it down, hold a second or so, then exhale through my nose preferably (unless I'm just enjoyig blowing out a big exhale of vapor which I've been known to do..it's strangely enjoyable)

but it's in contact with the mucous membranes as long as possible if you employ all three methods (since your mouth, bronchus/lungs, sinuses/nose are all covered in mucosa.

good luck

 

[TaketheRedPill]

Actually, the nicotine transfer by vapor is several seconds slower than by smoke. There's an article/blog about it here somewhere. I'm sure you could find it using a search.

sent from tapacrap

LOL !! Who brought cigarettes to the party? .

 

[Shotglass]

LOL !! Who brought cigarettes to the party? .

Hmmm - someone didn't read

Even though there are caveats in the article, it seems vastly ignorant on one point:

E-Cigarette vapor is not drawn directly into the lungs, as many smokers do with a tobacco cigarette.

I don't think there is hardly anyone who would disagree that direct lung inhale is far more prevalent with PV users than cigarette smokers.

Personally if I am just looking to get my nicotine, I do rapid mouth to lung inhales (a lot like a traditional cigarette really). Usually this is how it plays out.

1) Mouth to lung 3X within 10 seconds
2) A couple lung inhales
3) Mouth to lung inhales with relaxed exhales, most of the vaper being expelled from my nose.

Of course this changes from time to time. If I am trying out a new juice at a shop, I tend to do a couple huge lung inhales to get the liquid started.

YMMV, so find what works for you!

Edit: Also, French inhales work very well! It gets that vapor deep into my lungs.

 

[DaveP]

The point of vaping is to reduce harm (as opposed to cigarette smoke) and satisfy the urge for nicotine and the hand to mouth actions of smoking.

That said, you don't HAVE to inhale to get the nicotine. You can absorb all you need without involving the lungs. If you like inhaling, that's your preference. I'm trying to avoid inhaling as much as I used to simply because it can be hard on the lungs. Particle size in vapor has gotten much smaller IMO as technology has evolved. The old eGo coil heads that used silica wicks didn't produce the vapor volume that we see from cotton and cellulose. If you notice the vapor you produce with cotton or cellulose it hangs in the air like cigarette smoke. The particle size is far smaller than the vapor we used to produce.

My Tobeco K4 seems to produce clouds at 10 watts that I could never get from a Protank with a silica wick. All that extra vapor has to create some retention on the surfaces of the lungs. The less you inhale (besides air) the better off you are, IMO.

 

[Alien Traveler]

Since most people reading this won't read the whole article, here is the important part about absorption.

4. E-Cigarette vapor is a water-based mist and not smoke. This has two main consequences:
a. The droplet size in vapor is much larger than the particles in smoke, and therefore it does not penetrate as deeply into the lungs. Vapor aerosol is ten times the particulate size in smoke (10 microns vs 1 micron). Vapor cannot go anywhere near as deep, and this means that nicotine is not available so easily from the lungs, and is obtained more slowly.

I am very sorry, but everything in your citation is a bullmanure. Everything. Where it is from?

 

[The Cloud Minder]

I am very sorry, but everything in your citation is a bullmanure. Everything. Where it is from?

Are particles of bullmanure larger or smaller than vapor, and how well do they transport nicotine?

 

[Alien Traveler]

Are particles of bullmanure larger or smaller than vapor, and how well do they transport nicotine?

You can measure the size from pictures
https://www.google.com/search?q=bul...&ei=7i41VcUO0bGiBMCOgegK&ved=0CDEQsAQ&dpr=0.9

As for nic transportation - I am afraid volunteers for experiments are still needed.

 

[WharfRat1976]

Mouth to lung, lung to lung, ear to lung to mouth to lung...what a bunch of BS. I just smoke...I mean vape.