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Techinical???? not me!!So which one did Jesus forget?
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Did Jesus Abolish the Law - The Ten Commandments
After reading this article, I'm convinced that christians should be observing the sabbath. Sorry!!!!!!!!
After reading this article, I'm convinced that christians should be observing the sabbath. Sorry!!!!!!!!
Did Jesus Abolish the Law - The Ten Commandments
After reading this article, I'm convinced that christians should be observing the sabbath. Sorry!!!!!!!!
"If you love me, keep my Commandments"
"If you love me, keep my Commandments"
Yep, that's the same conclusion that I"ve come to also!
Yep, that's the same conclusion that I"ve come to also!
We'll be expecting you to keep ALL of it then because according to scripture, if you don't you'll be guilty of all.
I read the blog.... really really don't agree with it. It's logical, it just ignores the Bible and the heart of God.
Jesus said, If you love me keep MY commandments. It could be said that ...... His commandments were the two.
I think we all agree that Jesus didn't do away with the law... he fulfilled it. And in Him all grace abounds to us because He fulfilled the law on our behalf.
It is truly no effort of ours. We couldn't fulfill it, He did it for us and because of him, the law is fulfilled in us.
As long as we don't put any faith in the law, we have no problems. But when we put our faith in the law... when we say that by obeying the law, it somehow makes God happy with us or that we are in a better position with God... then we dilute the sacrifice of Christ. It is solely by his love for us, that we have our position and can go boldly (confidently) before the throne. As believers, we must be careful not to fall into the false security of the law. If it is about the Sabbath today, then tomorrow we will feel compelled to not eat shrimp, and the next day we feel farther from God because we failed to keep some other law. That is the danger. We are who we are because of Christ. And while we may "feel" like God loves us more sometimes than others... the truth is, who we are doesn't change and God's love and acceptance of us doesn't change. Our security is not in the law. It is in God's love for us (as revealed through Jesus.)
I certainly understand how one can choose to observe the Sabbath ... I will say that in order to take the position as a theological absolute, one would have to ignore all of the scriptures that say it profits us nothing. Can't remember where... but Paul said, keep the law (circumcision) .. don't keep the law... it makes no difference. It doesn't do you any good either way.
So the choice is ours. But what we must be careful of is putting the law upon ourselves and upon others. (not that you would do this) THAT has serious consequenses in our hearts.
That was the point of contention between Paul and Peter at which Peter agreed with Paul and backed off of his position.
oooo. I found it. Gal 5:6 "For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision (in context ..."the law") nor uncircumcision has any value. The only thing that counts is faith expressing itself through love."
Jesus said, If you love me keep MY commandments. It could be said that ...... His commandments were the two.
I think we all agree that Jesus didn't do away with the law... he fulfilled it. And in Him all grace abounds to us because He fulfilled the law on our behalf.
It is truly no effort of ours. We couldn't fulfill it, He did it for us and because of him, the law is fulfilled in us.
As long as we don't put any faith in the law, we have no problems. But when we put our faith in the law... when we say that by obeying the law, it somehow makes God happy with us or that we are in a better position with God... then we dilute the sacrifice of Christ. It is solely by his love for us, that we have our position and can go boldly (confidently) before the throne. As believers, we must be careful not to fall into the false security of the law. If it is about the Sabbath today, then tomorrow we will feel compelled to not eat shrimp, and the next day we feel farther from God because we failed to keep some other law. That is the danger. We are who we are because of Christ. And while we may "feel" like God loves us more sometimes than others... the truth is, who we are doesn't change and God's love and acceptance of us doesn't change. Our security is not in the law. It is in God's love for us (as revealed through Jesus.)
I certainly understand how one can choose to observe the Sabbath ... I will say that in order to take the position as a theological absolute, one would have to ignore all of the scriptures that say it profits us nothing. Can't remember where... but Paul said, keep the law (circumcision) .. don't keep the law... it makes no difference. It doesn't do you any good either way.
So the choice is ours. But what we must be careful of is putting the law upon ourselves and upon others. (not that you would do this) THAT has serious consequenses in our hearts.
That was the point of contention between Paul and Peter at which Peter agreed with Paul and backed off of his position.
oooo. I found it. Gal 5:6 "For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision (in context ..."the law") nor uncircumcision has any value. The only thing that counts is faith expressing itself through love."
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Excellent post. Here is a question: If we have something (law) that is of no use to us either way, why would we subject ourselves to it? Is there not more we can do in the kingdom rather than administer or adopt something that is useless? Which would God "rather" us to do?
The way I see it is if you feel you're incorrect on which ever day you worship, worship and rest on both Shabbot and Sunday. That way, you're covered! That's what I told a friend of mine who agreed on this one aspect that the 7th Day Adventists were correct in this. We got into heated discussions over this. It wasn't pretty. We wound up saying, "Well fine!" and the other would say, "Fine!" So we were fine! 
Hi Lisa - and everyone,
I'm a couple of days late, but I found a good article on the subject. Does God require Sabbath-keeping of Christians? There are also links to articles on The Saturday/ Sunday question.
Bible Questions Answered and Answers in Genesis - Creation, Evolution, Christian Apologetics are both excellent sites. They are very good at giving reasons for both sides of a doctrinal argument. They back everything up Biblically, and give links for further reading. (These are the same people that run the Creation Museum in KY. We're planning a family trip there this spring, and I am looking forward to it so much.)
Love,
~A
I'm a couple of days late, but I found a good article on the subject. Does God require Sabbath-keeping of Christians? There are also links to articles on The Saturday/ Sunday question.
Bible Questions Answered and Answers in Genesis - Creation, Evolution, Christian Apologetics are both excellent sites. They are very good at giving reasons for both sides of a doctrinal argument. They back everything up Biblically, and give links for further reading. (These are the same people that run the Creation Museum in KY. We're planning a family trip there this spring, and I am looking forward to it so much.)
Love,
~A
The way I see it is if you feel you're incorrect on which ever day you worship, worship and rest on both Shabbot and Sunday. That way, you're covered! That's what I told a friend of mine who agreed on this one aspect that the 7th Day Adventists were correct in this. We got into heated discussions over this. It wasn't pretty. We wound up saying, "Well fine!" and the other would say, "Fine!" So we were fine!
Well, fine then! JUST FINE!!!!!!!!!
Thanks Angelique, I'm going to check it out in the morning when I"m "fresh".............LOL!
I'm unemployed and can't seem to get hired to do anything, so I'm resting 7 days a week just in case.
ba-da-bump.
I'm here all week folks!
(Not really... I have a three year old...)
ba-da-bump.
I'm here all week folks!
(Not really... I have a three year old...)
I'm sorry to hear about your situation Jason, you're not alone tho, so many in the same situation, it's extremely difficult. I will pray that God will provide for you. Keep the faith brother! He will come through!
Why did Jesus say this below if the sabbath was no longer important or recognized? He was clearly talking about the end of days, which is us today!
Matthew 24:20. But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
Matthew 24:20. But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
I guess I'm just thinking that as long you have your personal relationship with God and Jesus, does it matter which day you hold as a Sabbath Day? Of course, it is alway "easier" to follow what "everyone is doing," but that may not be right for you. If you believe it is Saturday, then observe it that day. Or, if you believe it is Sunday, then observe it then. When it comes down to it, if you are concerned more with following the commandment than the actual day of the week, you will be fine either way. I think if it were of the utmost importance to observe it on a specific "day of the week," it probably would have been specified as such (i.e. more specific and less open for change via human calendar day of the week naming convention). -The Lord Jesus, being the Creator and Lord of the Sabbath, declared that "the Sabbath was made for man" (Mark 2:27).
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This is about the destruction of Jerusalem:
24:20 But pray that your flight may not be in the winter, or on a Sabbath;
Roads in winter are difficult to travel. The Sabbath was a time when the city was extremely crowded with people and it would be hard to escape because of the press of bodies. According to Neh 13:19 the city gates were closed on the Sabbath, making escape even more difficult.
According to Eusebius, the Christians had predetermined a place to meet when they realized Jesus' prophecy was occurring. They fled for safety across the Jordan to Pella in Peroea (one of the towns in Decapolis). This was a one-hundred mile journey through Judea and Moab (Church History, 3.5).
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