Although I tend to prefer vaping directly on the open end of my 808 carto (a/k/a "stovepiping" or "tailpiping"), I've discovered that I need to keep my cartos too wet for that when using my higher voltage mod. I could avoid juice in the mouth with the original carto end cap, but to me they're too much of a hassle to remove for refilling. So I've gone back to my old drip tips, the typical hourglass delrin ones that extend out about 3/4" long. One thing I dislike about the drip tip setup is how long it makes my total box mod unit. (Guy thing, maybe. I likewise felt awkward if ever I had to smoke a 120.) Does anybody make a really short drip tip, like 3/8"?