The tank paradox

[Vaper12345678]

So in many blogs and channels they say that keep your tank all the way filled so you avoid burnt coil heads keep your juice level at minimum half a tank.But what if I want to stop and end my vaping session?There will be always half a tank juice left since I don’t want dry hits.How do I get rid of that half a tank spare juice? If I vape it my upper-side cottons in the coil will burn because they are not properly saturated. And if I pour it down the drain it would be very expensive in long term.

Guys please help this is a real brain teaser since I am new to vaping.

 

[Fredman1]

You don't have to keep your tank filled. You can still vape it until its empty as long as the cotton is saturated. With experience you'll know when the cotton just starts to dry...without burning it.

 

[NicotineRush]

It would be helpful to know what equipment your using.

 

[Vaper12345678]

You don't have to keep your tank filled. You can still vape it until its empty as long as the cotton is saturated. With experience you'll know when the cotton just starts to dry...without burning it.

How to know that cotton is saturated correctly?

 

[Vaper12345678]

It would be helpful to know what equipment your using.

Vaporesso swag mod 80W 3,5 ml and locosteam 80/20 sweet melon e-juice

 

[DeloresRose]

I routinely vape drop ins down to 1/10th full with no problems. RTAs I try not to go as far, maybe 20%. I have no idea why anyone would say half. Certainly no reason to dump the tank out, unless your coil is bad and/or you’re switching flavors.

 

[NicotineRush]

As long as you have juice in the tank, the cotton should be saturated. BUT, if you're hitting it too hard/fast/hot, the cotton will quickly dry as you're not giving it time to re-saturate.

Unfortunately, pre built replacement coils generally burn out rather quickly, especially if you're using sweeter juices. It's why many of us have turned to building our own coils. It's super easy and they last MUCH longer. In my case, many months. When I started I was getting, on average, 3-4 days on a pre built!

 

[Eskie]

What tank on top? And does those relate to your question on a vape pen in another thread?

 

[Vaper12345678]

As long as you have juice in the tank, the cotton should be saturated. BUT, if you're hitting it too hard/fast/hot, the cotton will quickly dry as you're not giving it time to re-saturate.

Unfortunately, pre built replacement coils generally burn out rather quickly, especially if you're using sweeter juices. It's why many of us have turned to building our own coils. It's super easy and they last MUCH longer. In my case, many months. When I started I was getting, on average, 3-4 days on a pre built!

Same here man I really agree with you but unfortunately it is illegal to sell rebuildables in my country. But if you pay the taxes you can get one online you have any recommendations for rebuildables? I think the aspire quad flex kit is a good idea.

 

[Vaper12345678]

What tank on top? And does those relate to your question on a vape pen in another thread?

What tank on top? And does those relate to your question on a vape pen in another thread?

Yeah I posted that threat but they are not related to each other

 

[Vaper12345678]

Same here man I really agree with you but unfortunately it is illegal to sell rebuildables in my country because people mess them up. But if you pay the taxes you can get one online you have any recommendations for rebuildables? I think the aspire quad flex kit is a good idea.

 

[NicotineRush]

Well, that sucks!
Personally, from reading the description of the Quad Flex, it seems pretty cool except for how you fill the tank, which might be problematic for some.

 

[Vaper12345678]

Well, that sucks!
Personally, from reading the description of the Quad Flex, it seems pretty cool except for how you fill the tank, which might be problematic for some.

So What is your recommendation?

 

[NicotineRush]

As many know, I'm a huge Aspire fan. Never had an issue with any of their products. My personal setups are Aspire Speeder mods and OBS Nano or Crius tanks.

 

[NicotineRush]

So What is your recommendation?

Asking this will get you a million different opinions.
To build your own, you're going to need some equipment along with tanks and a mod. This may be difficult to acquire in your country?
I suggest, before you buy anything, read some of the sub forums here to see if DIY is for you.

 

[DeloresRose]

As long as you have juice in the tank, the cotton should be saturated. BUT, if you're hitting it too hard/fast/hot, the cotton will quickly dry as you're not giving it time to re-saturate.

Unfortunately, pre built replacement coils generally burn out rather quickly, especially if you're using sweeter juices. It's why many of us have turned to building our own coils. It's super easy and they last MUCH longer. In my case, many months. When I started I was getting, on average, 3-4 days on a pre built!

I used to get 5 days to a week, but the newer ones, I get three weeks. I get maybe 4-5 days on a RTA before I have to change the cotton. The coils last a long time, but at least for me, they require more upkeep.

 

[NicotineRush]

I used to get 5 days to a week, but the newer ones, I get three weeks. I get maybe 4-5 days on a RTA before I have to change the cotton. The coils last a long time, but at least for me, they require more upkeep.

Maybe the pre builts have gotten better. My last one was 4-5 yrs ago.

I think if I was advising someone to start building, I would probably advise a single coil with a glass top such as a Goon clone. (RDA) Cheap and easy to build.
For equipment, a Coilmaster V3 kit. Yes, it's maybe a little overkill for a newbie, but it will last him/her a lifetime of building.
SS316 for wire and some Cotton Bacon for wicking. Probably get the whole setup for less than 80 bucks US.

Goon clone 7 bucks at FT: (if still available)

 

[tailland]

..If I vape it my upper-side cottons in the coil will burn because they are not properly saturated. And if I pour it down the drain it would be very expensive in long term...Guys please help this is a real brain teaser since I am new to vaping.

You're overthinking it. Thanks to capillary ascension, your coils will stay saturated even if your juice level is rather low. It's much more important that the juice holes on the coil go all the way down in the tank. And why would it be bad to leave a small amount of juice in the tank? It doesn't get bad overnight. Just leave it in, fill up the tank the next day, and you're good to go again.

...probably get the whole setup for less than 80 bucks US.

Offtopic:
I just checked Ali. You can get a batch of 100 pre-made coils, any material you fancy, for $3-5 with simple wiring and $5-10 for exotic coils like fused clapton, alien hive mixed tiger yadatralala. Taking into consideration how much time you would need to wire up a hundred coils on your own, buying pre-made coils seems much more reasonabe.

All you then you need is some cotton, a small pair of rugged scissors and a pair of pliers to stuff the cotton into the holes on your deck, and you're set. The tools to screw/unscrew the stuff on your deck are usually part of the accessory bag that comes with your tank. No need for a complete DIY kit if you don't want to make it a hobby of its own.

 

[stols001]

Um no one on that thread said that you HAVE to keep your tank half full. I said that I preferred it, but if I am trying to drain a tank so I can put it aside or switch out flavors I can and will go lower than that. I just stated I preferred the vape from a fuller tank and that that was my preference.

There is no reason not to go lower, really PRETTY low as much as you can get away with if you are worried about it. You do risk burning your drop in coil, which may or may not be worth say 0.4 ml of juice to you.

However, when the tank starts to get low, you should notice a DECREASE in vapor production, quite often. At that point is the time to stop in my opinion. With that said, should you CONTINUE you will eventually get to the "dry hit." It will probably happen to you, and when it does, you will know it. Think horrendous, burnt awful taste maybe a burning sensation and a coughing fit.

It's unpleasant but easily recognizable, so pay attention when it happens and what your vape production is doing right before hand, as that is the time to discard any and all remaining juice in the tank. You'll be shocked at how little it actually is.

Also, with eliquid, there is a certain amount of waste. You didn't smoke your cigarette filters did you, just because they were a valuable part of the tube you bought, did you?

Think of dry hits like smoking tobacco filters. You can smoke or vape THROUGH the experience should you so desire. But, you really shouldn't.

I think you are obsessing a bit personally, but I remember my own "new vape" obsessions, which is why I bothered to type this all out, hopefully more clearly this time.

Anna

 

[evan le'garde]

Funny, when i first stated vaping i used pre-built everything. Fast forward, now i wouldn't even consider using anything pre-built. Seems i'm travelling in the complete oposite direction to the industry.

I vape until the tank is empty. It's the same at the beginning, middle and the end. No dry hits ever, no matter what i do. (ok, once in a blue moon i'll find i packed my wick too tightly).

No real maintenance, just re-wick when i can be bothered. Routinely i'd do it everytime my tank empties, but i know the wick is good for two or three, so ....

Coils...... build my own, 1 ohm, simple 5 wrap kanthal 2mm inner diameter. Can't remember the last time i had to build one. And i've got ten Kayfun V4's in rotation.

Sub ohm tanks relegated to their boxes. Haven't seen the light of day for ages. They still have the coils i built in them.

Same for Rda's too, relegated to their boxes. Multiple coils which won't need switching out for literally... years !. Never know when i'll feel the need to Sub Ohm... so they'll be fine where they are for now, take a matter of minutes to re-wick. It's no bother !.

MTL at 11.5 watts constantly. Boxes i use are capable of hundreds of watts, so too are the batteries i use. Still i only vape at 11.5 watts.

Once a coil is built, that's it !.
Putting new laces in my Nikes is a harder task than wrapping and bolting down a new coil !.

There are a few good RTA's , DTL OR MTL, available which work flawlessly which plenty of members here would recommend. Grab a few of those and you're set. I've heard good things about the Kayfun V5, DTL, and the Kayfun Prime, MTL. These are work horses designed to last. There are others which are just as good !.