The terminator reappears

[six]

Not only has the terminator reappeared, but sparkplugforsmokers.com claims they have a patent pending on it and they are calling it the sparkplug power regulator. I thought that was interesting since I read the thread where Buzzkill posted the schematic for that device a few months ago in the modders forum.

Also interesting, there is a thread (that will get closed soon because it has devolved in to a flame war) in the general forum where someone apparently had a single 16340 go thermal when they put it in a charger that wasn't even plugged in. It sounds like it is an unprotected 16340 sold with the sparkplug v3. The key thing to note is that the batt melted down while not even in a mod.

 

[retird]

hum.......links are bad.....must have deleted the threads...

 

[BuzzKill]

Yep GONE ! , they can have it BUT it is covered under my patent so LOL!!!

 

[six]

That OP started a couple of threads at the same time. here is the other one.

 

[hairball]

Wow...just...wow.

six...I had 4 AW Lifepo4's leak, not sure from what, that were just sitting in the battery cases. I discovered them when I rotated my batteries. They were put away full charged and had only been there for a little less than 2 weeks. Buzz said it looked like internal failure which I'm pretty sure he's right. They charged up fine and were at the right voltages. One set was used pretty heavily but the other set was bought back in Feb and only cycled maybe 6 times and that's stretching it. I'm not reporting it because they weren't in a mod either.

 

[six]

. I'm not reporting it because they weren't in a mod either.

For ECF to understand that battery events are not strictly related to stacking a pair of 16340s, then they need to hear from people who have experienced battery problems outside of a tube. That is the thing that has me completely baffled about what they are trying to accomplish with their design requirements for tube mods. They seem to be taking the (completely wrong) idea that battery problems only happen with stacked 16340s in a tube and turning that in to some sort of policy. Garbage In Garbage Out. They will never achieve anything by creating rules and policy based on false/incorrect information.

A big part of what I do for a living these days has to do with radio communications equipment. We have a lot of devices that have batteries in them for uninteruptable power and for other purposes. I see bad batteries all the time. I also see single 18650s that blow up forcefully while no where near a tube and while certainly not being stacked (most often they pop from a surge caused by close proximity lightening strikes, but I've seen them go from overheat caused by the device they are in being exposed to the sun and painted black causing too much heat in the box). -- I have been following what ECF has had to say about batteries closely. And, their assumptions are wrong - so their conclusions are wrong.

Speaking of wrong, I might be wrong about the sparki having a terminator add on. According to what they told me, the "power regulator" they are talking about is just the sparki itself. Just a mechanical tube.

 

[BuzzKill]

For ECF to understand that battery events are not strictly related to stacking a pair of 16340s, then they need to hear from people who have experienced battery problems outside of a tube. That is the thing that has me completely baffled about what they are trying to accomplish with their design requirements for tube mods. They seem to be taking the (completely wrong) idea that battery problems only happen with stacked 16340s in a tube and turning that in to some sort of policy. Garbage In Garbage Out. They will never achieve anything by creating rules and policy based on false/incorrect information.

A big part of what I do for a living these days has to do with radio communications equipment. We have a lot of devices that have batteries in them for uninteruptable power and for other purposes. I see bad batteries all the time. I also see single 18650s that blow up forcefully while no where near a tube and while certainly not being stacked (most often they pop from a surge caused by close proximity lightening strikes, but I've seen them go from overheat caused by the device they are in being exposed to the sun and painted black causing too much heat in the box). -- I have been following what ECF has had to say about batteries closely. And, their assumptions are wrong - so their conclusions are wrong.

Speaking of wrong, I might be wrong about the sparki having a terminator add on. According to what they told me, the "power regulator" they are talking about is just the sparki itself. Just a mechanical tube.

I agree with you basically , I have pointed this out several times to them but it falls on deaf ears so ???
They could care less if this hurts a business that pays them $$ to advertise , this was made VERY clear on the show we did in the UK .

I have pointed out many times that Notcigs products have ALWAYS been fully protected , in fact we were the first to do this level of protection but that means nothing to him for some reason ??? he just boasts that Nhaler has a cooler cutout ????? WTF ???????? does that have to do with safety ? makes no sense to me.

Anyhow moving on now.

 

[440BB]

There are so many risks in having a business already I must say I empathize. It's got to have been a shocker to have a friendly forum you pay to participate in create these problems, even if they were well intentioned. Those people with the good sense to have protection circuitry shouldn't have been under the microscope - they should have been recruited to define the safety standards in the first place.

 

[BuzzKill]

There are so many risks in having a business already I must say I empathize. It's got to have been a shocker to have a friendly forum you pay to participate in create these problems, even if they were well intentioned. Those people with the good sense to have protection circuitry shouldn't have been under the microscope - they should have been recruited to define the safety standards in the first place.

I could not agree MORE ! they never asked , I was in contact with them and offered my services but I was the ENEMY to them , we make unsafe products according to Roly , even though he NEVER KNEW what we made or how we made it , so there was no research done at all.

 

[FROSTVAP3]

Wow, just jumped into this discussion, I couldn't love my notcig products more, I stumbled on this thread because I want to get a feeder and am leaning toward your VV PV. I love my buzz so much. I was wondering what the ECF version was, now I know. I don't get on enough I guess. But YOU ARE THE BEST!

 

[FROSTVAP3]

Buzz is the feed tip the same as in the photo or different now. someone told me it was more similar to a regular drip ti, the drilled cart is fine with me.

 

[six]

I want to get a feeder and am leaning toward your VV PV.

The VVPV makes me happy. All day battery life - All day juice capacity - Looks Great - Provides easy and accurate juice feed control - Top Fed so the flavor is superior - VV - All Metal - etc etc etc.

 

[FROSTVAP3]

Well that settles it, I am going to place my order along with my metal buzz bottom caps and the tanks that they sell just to support notcigs/ and the notcigs family. I am a firm beliver in what we build here. i am sure this has been discussed but the innokin knock off really made me MAD!

 

[Butters78]

Yeah six that thread was going nuts.. lol those two guys were going at it.

 

[BuzzKill]

Buzz is the feed tip the same as in the photo or different now. someone told me it was more similar to a regular drip ti, the drilled cart is fine with me.

If you mean the one for the VVPV it is an adapter so you can use your own drip tip /