I'll run a set of 3v on it tomorrow and give ya the results. it's sleepytime, work happens.
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OK heres what I have so far on voltages
3.0 volt batts = 6.8 volts unloaded
3 ohm load = 5.0 volts out max
2.4 volts min.
3.7 volt batts = 8.3 volts unloaded
6.3 volts Max
2.4 volts min.
3 ohm load
3.0 volt batts = 6.8 volts unloaded
3 ohm load = 5.0 volts out max
2.4 volts min.
3.7 volt batts = 8.3 volts unloaded
6.3 volts Max
2.4 volts min.
3 ohm load
Just to clarify for those who are still confused, those results are with two of those battery types. You need two batteries for this to work. It's not like the TI booster board - it doesn't increase voltage. You cannot use this to get more than 3.7V out of a single battery.
My beta Terminator just arrived. Only had a chance to take a couple drags off of it so far, but it is working exactly as it should. I haven't busted out the meter yet, but a couple turns clockwise makes it noticeably stronger, and a few counter-clockwise makes it noticeably weaker, so it's working
Two issues I found almost immediately. The biggest (and most easily fixable) is that the atty connector is not sealed. It's imperative to keep your atty good and wet at high voltage, and an unsealed connector pretty much guarantees you'll end up with juice in the terminator sooner or later. A dab of solder on the connector will seal it right up.
The other issue is that there doesn't appear to be any end stops on the pot. You can keep twisting away forever. While the actual resistance probably bottoms out at some point, it would be nice to know when you've hit it and can start counting turns in the other direction. I know it's asking a lot for such a tiny part, and there probably isn't a pot that would fit and does have stops, but it's still worth mentioning.
Got out the meter and did some tests. Used my Indulgence with two freshly charged 18350 batteries.
Battery voltage: 8.38v unloaded & unregulated
Battery voltage: 6.62v unregulated with 3ohm load
Regulated voltage with 3ohm load:
Turns - Voltage
0 - - - 2.43
1 - - - 2.59
2 - - - 3.11
3 - - - 3.65
4 - - - 4.25
5 - - - 4.83
6 - - - 5.40
7 - - - 5.78
8 - - - 5.81
As expected, going past the min and max points on the pot doesn't change the voltage. However, the pot does "remember" how many turns past you've gone. So if you're turning it down to get to minimum and overshoot by two turns, you'll have to go back up two turns before the voltage starts to rise. I could see this being a bit annoying for anybody without a meter. In that situation, you'd just have to do a bit of trial and error until you got close to your desired strength.
The good news is that it is almost impossible for the pot to be adjusted accidentally, so once you set it somewhere, it should stay there until you purposely change it.
I did a heat test after the voltage test. Using the same batteries and load, I set the reg to 5.10V and held the button for a solid minute. I ended the test at a minute because I didn't know if the reg had a thermal cutoff, or if it would just fry if it got too hot. In either case, it held up for the full minute. During the test, the voltage slowly dropped to 5.06V as the reg heated up. This is to be expected, as linear regs get less efficient as they get hotter. By the end, the tube itself was hot, but not hot enough to burn. Certainly cooler than an atty would have been after a full minute drag. Thermally speaking, I'd say this should hold up to even the most fiendish chain-vaper.
Battery voltage: 8.38v unloaded & unregulated
Battery voltage: 6.62v unregulated with 3ohm load
Regulated voltage with 3ohm load:
Turns - Voltage
0 - - - 2.43
1 - - - 2.59
2 - - - 3.11
3 - - - 3.65
4 - - - 4.25
5 - - - 4.83
6 - - - 5.40
7 - - - 5.78
8 - - - 5.81
As expected, going past the min and max points on the pot doesn't change the voltage. However, the pot does "remember" how many turns past you've gone. So if you're turning it down to get to minimum and overshoot by two turns, you'll have to go back up two turns before the voltage starts to rise. I could see this being a bit annoying for anybody without a meter. In that situation, you'd just have to do a bit of trial and error until you got close to your desired strength.
The good news is that it is almost impossible for the pot to be adjusted accidentally, so once you set it somewhere, it should stay there until you purposely change it.
I did a heat test after the voltage test. Using the same batteries and load, I set the reg to 5.10V and held the button for a solid minute. I ended the test at a minute because I didn't know if the reg had a thermal cutoff, or if it would just fry if it got too hot. In either case, it held up for the full minute. During the test, the voltage slowly dropped to 5.06V as the reg heated up. This is to be expected, as linear regs get less efficient as they get hotter. By the end, the tube itself was hot, but not hot enough to burn. Certainly cooler than an atty would have been after a full minute drag. Thermally speaking, I'd say this should hold up to even the most fiendish chain-vaper.
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Just to clarify for those who are still confused, those results are with two of those battery types. You need two batteries for this to work. It's not like the TI booster board - it doesn't increase voltage. You cannot use this to get more than 3.7V out of a single battery.
My beta Terminator just arrived. Only had a chance to take a couple drags off of it so far, but it is working exactly as it should. I haven't busted out the meter yet, but a couple turns clockwise makes it noticeably stronger, and a few counter-clockwise makes it noticeably weaker, so it's working
Two issues I found almost immediately. The biggest (and most easily fixable) is that the atty connector is not sealed. It's imperative to keep your atty good and wet at high voltage, and an unsealed connector pretty much guarantees you'll end up with juice in the terminator sooner or later. A dab of solder on the connector will seal it right up.
The other issue is that there doesn't appear to be any end stops on the pot. You can keep twisting away forever. While the actual resistance probably bottoms out at some point, it would be nice to know when you've hit it and can start counting turns in the other direction. I know it's asking a lot for such a tiny part, and there probably isn't a pot that would fit and does have stops, but it's still worth mentioning.
Thanks for clearing that up Candre23 ! YA it need 2 batteries.
The connector is sealed, just from the inside.
I solder the wire to the inside of the center post on the connector ( hard to see from outside )
None of the trim pots have stops unfortunately , even the best ones do not have a stop. ( hell we would just break them ) so it is what it is
thanks for the feedback 23 ! let us know how it works out for you please .
Mine's definitely not sealed. I can suck air through the connector. Maybe it just needs a bit more solder? I guess this is why you do beta runs.
Yep thats BETA for ya !!! good catch the top ring is may not be fully sealed so depending on how you are testing it it is possible for the air to leak around the outside of the brass conn. ?
Also it could easily not be fully filled with solder ?? we will keep an eye on that issue.
Thanks
Buzz
Also it could easily not be fully filled with solder ?? we will keep an eye on that issue.
Thanks
Buzz
top connector is sealed on mine, but the bottom one isn't. as the top one was sealed, I didn't even think to comment on it.
Jag do you have a voltmeter ? if so could you run some number for us ? adjust it until it starts to change and go from there .
Buzz
THanks
Buzz
THanks
yeah, I did that on another thread but I'll run the #'s again and post them in a while, this time I'll use full batteries and I'll do 1 with 3.7 and 1 with 3.0v batteries.
cool thanks . I will avg the numbers we get for the preferred settings for the user .
Thats what I did with the Buzz and thats where we got 4.5 volts as the sweet spot
Thats what I did with the Buzz and thats where we got 4.5 volts as the sweet spot
I just got mine in and like candre's my top connector isn't sealed.. bottom one is though...
I am going to runs some tests.. hopefully some other's haven't tried... I have some tricks
under my sleeve... not really .. but it sounds good
first view.. outside of a non-sealed top connecto... it is the typical buzzkill clean job.. ummm meaning it looks professionally done.. more later
I am going to runs some tests.. hopefully some other's haven't tried
... I have some tricks under my sleeve... not really .. but it sounds good
first view.. outside of a non-sealed top connecto... it is the typical buzzkill clean job.. ummm meaning it looks professionally done.. more later
I just got mine in and like candre's my top connector isn't sealed.. bottom one is though...
I am going to runs some tests.. hopefully some other's haven't tried
under my sleeve... not really .. but it sounds good
first view.. outside of a non-sealed top connecto... it is the typical buzzkill clean job.. ummm meaning it looks professionally done.. more later
Can you blow through the top connection ? , if so we will fix that ASAP !
BETA tests thats what they are for !
yes.. and that's the good thing about BETA
.. but this is definitely a quick fix... so no worries there I am vaping it right now... for the basic user test.. with out any readings... I will save all of my comments until my conclusion...
Dang... I wish I was a beta tester, as you know if anyone can break it I can! lol
Device GGTS
Test 1: 2x 3.7v AW HD 16340
Starting voltage with out "Term":
8.47v no load
7.67v 3.3Ω load
with "Term":
2,42v Lowest setting no load
7.41v Highest setting no load
6.74v Highest setting 3.3Ω load
4.5v setting NL
4.41v 3.3Ω load
Voltage seems to hold pretty well through out the ranges even with a high resistant load... with the exception of max setting where there tends to be more of a voltage drop but with no concern.
Terminator doesn't seem to get hot under "normal" use. @3.3Ω for ≈1min it got hella hot.. but recovered quickly
Battery: 3x3.0v CR123 LiFePO 6.59v starting voltage
5.61v highest setting on "TERM"
Just a quick check to see max result for "6v" vaping. It appears that you can do useful regulating to a 6v device just with a smaller range
Battery 1x3.7 AW HD 18490
3.2v with"TERM"'s at max setting
Though there isn't much use for variable voltage with the "TERM" utilizing 3.7v but I tried this with an 1.5Ω LR atty which I found provided a "cooler" vape. Not sure if it will be commonly done, but I feel it shows an extra option.
I will think of more tests to wear this thing.. gotta find the limit
Test 1: 2x 3.7v AW HD 16340
Starting voltage with out "Term":
8.47v no load
7.67v 3.3Ω load
with "Term":
2,42v Lowest setting no load
7.41v Highest setting no load
6.74v Highest setting 3.3Ω load
4.5v setting NL
4.41v 3.3Ω load
Voltage seems to hold pretty well through out the ranges even with a high resistant load... with the exception of max setting where there tends to be more of a voltage drop but with no concern.
Terminator doesn't seem to get hot under "normal" use. @3.3Ω for ≈1min it got hella hot.. but recovered quickly
Battery: 3x3.0v CR123 LiFePO 6.59v starting voltage
5.61v highest setting on "TERM"
Just a quick check to see max result for "6v" vaping. It appears that you can do useful regulating to a 6v device just with a smaller range
Battery 1x3.7 AW HD 18490
3.2v with"TERM"'s at max setting
Though there isn't much use for variable voltage with the "TERM" utilizing 3.7v but I tried this with an 1.5Ω LR atty which I found provided a "cooler" vape. Not sure if it will be commonly done, but I feel it shows an extra option.
I will think of more tests to wear this thing..
gotta find the limit
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