"The tide is turning in favor of e-cigarettes" - report from E-Cigarette Summit

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This is great news. It's amazing the difference in view point between those who actually want to help smokers quit and those who just want to demonize them or control the economic impact of smokers quitting.

I think that the delay in the FDAs ruling in the US has been a godsend as more and more vapers come on board (strength in numbers) and scientific evidence, such as Dr Farsilinos research, becomes more widely known.

Thanks for the link!
 

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While not a scientific study, the preponderance of evidence on ECF and elsewhere strongly suggests the action of smoking is far more addictive than the nicotine, which in and of itself is far less harmful than all the other products of combustion smoking--on the order of twenty times by some. The relatively dismal success rate of NRT products is also evidence of that, as is the number of vapers who wean themselves off nicotine, yet continue to vape for the enjoyment.

I do caution, these are not vapers' allies. Their goal is to see e-cigarettes provided by pharmaceutical companies and distributed through pharmacies to customers who are under professional medical care--likely meaning by prescription. US customers, in particular, pay exorbitant prices for prescription medicine, particularly that not on health insurance formularies. This generates massive profits since these customers are held captive by a government agency led largely by pharmaceutical company executives.

I'm glad to see a positive bent on vaping, but I'm not happy to see where the source wants to take it.
 
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While not a scientific study, the preponderance of evidence on ECF and elsewhere strongly suggests the action of smoking is far more addictive than the nicotine, which in and of itself is far less harmful than all the other products of combustion smoking--on the order of twenty times by some. The relatively dismal success rate of NRT products is also evidence of that, as is the number of vapers who wean themselves off nicotine, yet continue to vape for the enjoyment.

I do caution, these are not vapers' allies. Their goal is to see e-cigarettes provided by pharmaceutical companies and distributed through pharmacies to customers who are under professional medical care--likely meaning by prescription. US customers, in particular, pay exorbitant prices for prescription medicine, particularly that not on health insurance formularies. This generates massive profits since these customers are held captive by a government agency led largely by pharmaceutical company executives.

I'm glad to see a positive bent on vaping, but I'm not happy to see where the source wants to take it.

Agreed. Sadly however, it is inevitable that all "vices" will be either taxed/regulated or banned. Call me cynical, but I see no path for ecigs that won't lead to the powers that be leveling some measure of control and taxation over vaping related products. The political forces at work here are too deeply ingrained in our society and ecigs pose a major threat to their economic power structure. I wish that were not the case, but I firmly believe that the "science" of vaping is irrelevant to those who would regulate it. Such regulation is about power and control...and vaping simultaneously posses a threat to the power structure of those who now control inhalation-type vices and also presents an opportunity for new "overlords" to get in the game. Vaping is only going to attract more and more attention in the next few years and I've never known a politician or lobbyist that didn't salivate at the thought of controlling people and taking their hard earned money. Absent a dynamic shift in our current political structure, I think that time is not on our side. The revenuer is an insatiable beast.
 
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The problem with regulating ecigs is the relative simplicity of them. Realistically, a solid mech mod can be manufactured at home pretty easily. Same with the juices.
Provided that free-roaming nicotine base remains available, I would agree.
But that is the big question that remains to be answered.
 

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True. But I'm thinking it's going to prove to be more of a hassle than its worth if/when they really start pushing hard for regulation.

What hassle? They already have the infrastructure to tax and regulate liquid nicotine. If the political will is there, I don't think you'll see much that can stop it. The key is making it politically detrimental to do so, but with the last 40 years of anti-smoking campaigns, the public is already predisposed against nicotine. It is an uphill battle and thinking otherwise only leads to the inevitable. We need to be very afraid...that fear is needed to motivate the politically apathetic to get off their couches and stand up for vaping.
 
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