The Ugly Mod

[gk7319]

Hi everyone!

First off, thanks to Petercro, Highping, Dreams N Chains, Hoog, and everyone that ever posted info on modding. Even though I am personally unhappy with my first box, I could not have done this without all of you!

Ever since I found this forum, I have been intrigued with all the mods that people have created in an attempt to improve upon the ecig design. I had ordered mods off the internet but always found them lacking in some way (even the famous juice Box, which works but not to my personal satisfaction). So, when I started this I had several needs that I figured a handmade mod would have to meet. They would be…

Have a juice feeding system
Run at 5 volts using two 18650 2600 mah batteries for extended battery life
Use common 510 attys

I’ve never attempted to build anything like this before and am not what you would call “handy.” So, after months of research (which only makes the final product appear that much more pathetic), I settled on the components that I would need and ordered them all from Mapvapes. I am including the list of parts below with the cost per item so anyone new can realize just how cheap this is compared to purchasing a pre-made mod for $100 or more.

510CONNB, 510 Battery Connector, Gold, $2.49
MVSWTACBB, Tactile Switch with Round actuator, $1.79
2XCBOX, 2 x C Battery Box with on/off switch, $2.89
MVLEDBL3MM, 3mm Blue LED, $0.49
MV5VREG1, LDO 5 volt, 3.0 amp regulator with control pin, $2.29
MV5VREG3, D2Pak, LDO 5 volt, 3.0 amp regulator with control pin, $2.49
MVR470, 470 Ohm Resister, $0.20
MVCBPCB, Interconnect Project Circuit Board, $1.99
10MLMT, Empty 10ml Bottle with Childproof cap, $0.49

Other items used…

Drill, Dremel, Glue Gun, Silicon, Epoxy, Exacto knives, and 1/16” brass tubing (from local hobby shop)

I had a "tutorial" in Word that I was going to upload but its too large with all of the photos embedded into it. If anyone is really interested, let me know and I will try to post it in pieces. Or, if anyone is interested in a particular part of the box, I can put up individual pictures.

I am already looking forward to my next mod which will be a lot slicker looking. I have finalized a design that will use the same components as this one, but in a custom made box. Now I just need to figure out how to make the box and I'll be on my way!

Have a good one!
Greg

 

[four2109]

That's great! Now you can focus on your custom mod without having to fool with filling carts and charging batteries!

 

[Connman]

I`m just happy when mine work and the looks well that`s a personal thing. Like my Cardboard box mod looked like well a Cardboard box but at 5 volts worked very well.

Getting them to look sweet takes some time and now you can take that time on the next one. Although I think that one is far from being ugly. Good job, and as you say much cheaper and plus I love making mods.

 

[ejoker]

box mods are never all that aesthetically pleasing (except for dreams' who melts/molds the box and then paints). i've made uglier mods than that one.

and now that you've made your first working mod, you'll be eyeing everything thinking about how to mod it. nothing will be safe, not the wife's lipstick or the 7-11 extreme gulp (i should post more pics).

well done greg!

 

[redeyedancer]

Nice mod i am sure she produces some nice vapor that's all that counts.And That sucker will run forever on a charge.

 

[CloudBurst]

Nice mod! I love the bottom feeders! How do you feed it to the atty?

 

[jgdovin]

Gk: If you wanna send me the word document I'd be interested. I can even extract it to html and host it on one of my servers or host the word doc on one of my servers for you to link to here. Let me know via PM

 

[WillyB]

MV5VREG1, LDO 5 volt, 3.0 amp regulator with control pin, $2.29
MV5VREG3, D2Pak, LDO 5 volt, 3.0 amp regulator with control pin, $2.49

Why the two regulators?

 

[Dkrom68]

Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder if it vapes good It looks good LOL

 

[deitra]

It was created by you from lots of tidbits of great information. The only thing it really needs to get better looking is a pic of you and your scrumptious vapor.
Congrats, and I would love a little tutorial about the feeding tube. I don't know why because I have to be the worst modder on the planet.
But I would love to understand the gravity defying part of the juice bottles.
Thanks

 

[Phonernomicon]

Dude, that thing looks huge.. And awesome! How the heck do you do the bottom feeding tube? I bet it feels pretty nice vaping on something like that that you built yourself. Great job.

 

[nicotime]

Why the two regulators?

Thats what I was wondering...that and how a 18650 fits a "C cell" box? Must be bigger than the C holders I got at RS.

But any way...good job..enjoy.

 

[gk7319]

Thanks everyone! jgdovin - I'll PM you about the word doc.

I see there are a few questions about the bottom feeding and I will try to answer (note that all credit for this goes to Petercro and Highping, or at least that is where I first saw it).

To bottom feed you will need to have an unsealed battery to atomizer connection. I use a 510 atty/batt connector. The positive connection on the batt conn. on an unsealed conn. is a hollow tube. You will need some tubing that has a 1/16" outer diameter; that size will fit though the batt conn and into the atty - I used brass tubing that I bought from a hobby store for about a $1.

You will need to cut the brass tubing into 2 pieces. One tube needs to run from the atty through the battery connector and into the top nozzle of the bottle underneath. To do this, I inserted the uncut brass tube through the connector and into an atty. I then screwed the atty down into the connector.

Now on the other side where the bottle goes, you would need to determine the spacing for yourself based upon the bottle and box size. Once you figure that out, cut the tubing so that it fits into the bottle's drip nozzle.

The second piece of tubing will need to be inserted through the nozzle and into the bottle. Just ram it in there and cut it so it is close to the bottom.

Once you have both ends cut to size, fit all the pieces together and use epoxy putty to connect them into one solid piece. The two tubes will come together inside the nozzle and the cap and epoxy will create a pretty good seal.

I used my box for a few days and had no leaks until the silicon that I used (instead of epoxy) came loose.

I have attached 2 pics here that show the bottle and then the whole set up in the next post.

Hope this helps!
Greg

 

[gk7319]

Thats what I was wondering...that and how a 18650 fits a "C cell" box? Must be bigger than the C holders I got at RS.

But any way...good job..enjoy.

Hi again!

Mistake on the parts list. I purchased two different types of regulators and forgot to remove from the list.

Sorry!

The 18650s barely fit into the box. I love these batts though, so I designed a new box for my next attempt. On paper it looks good, but this one will be a custom made job like the Mahmba and I now need to figure out how to do it. I bought a molding kit a couple of weeks back and if this works, I'll have a custom mold that can be reused to create more.

And for the record, the C box that I got from Madvapes is about the size of a pack of cigarettes. With the juice and batteries it weighs a ton but at least it lasts all day and you could club someone with it in a fight!

 

[Phonernomicon]

How easy is it to take the bottle out? That's one of the biggest problems I see in my future mod is having space to unscrew the bottle without stressing the other components.

 

[CloudBurst]

So, you remove the center of the atty connector, I have one but a 1/16 copper tube is too big. It goes through the atty but not the batty connector. I'm gonna try to leave the silicone piece around the copper, attach the positive to the tube then go up to the atty. Think that will work?

 

[gk7319]

Pherernomicon - Taking out the bottle was helped by the silicon connection to the battery connector, but as I said the silicon just will not seal completely to the bottle top, so back to the drawing board on that one.

Storminyte - I didn't remove the center pole from the battery connector. I slid the tube through it. A 1/16" OD tube should fit into an unsealed 510 battery connector, at least it did on my end. I do not know if you can replace the positive connection with the tube - that's over my head.

 

[CloudBurst]

When I used the tubing on mine for the outside of the cart mod, I used that amazing putty to seal the cap of the bottle. Just jam it in there, make sure it goes around the copper real good and let it dry. I've never had a leak.

 

[petercro]

GK
It does not matter what it looks like.
The question is, does it vape like a bomb.
And I bet it does!!!!!!!!!
Great mod.
The case is always the hardest part of the design.
Highping is working on the Epoxy mod case.
I'm working on a 2 plastic pipe design. Similar to the Mahmba v2.
And I think mastiffMike is going on a different route.

One favour to ask
Could you please post a picture or pm it if you prefer of the inside of the bottle screw lid.
On mine I did not use any silicone or epoxy and I get NO leaks,
I'm just interested in seeing the difference.

Many thanks

Petercro

 

[petercro]

So, you remove the center of the atty connector, I have one but a 1/16 copper tube is too big. It goes through the atty but not the batty connector. I'm gonna try to leave the silicone piece around the copper, attach the positive to the tube then go up to the atty. Think that will work?

It will work.
BUT
You may find that after the brass tube becomes covered in liquid, the
electrical connection to the atty could become intermittent.

I use the 4081 atty so the brass tube fits through the battery connector,
but not through the atty.
The answer is to put the small length brass tube into a drill, turn it on and
use a file to reduce its diameter.

That way, in your case the brass tube should fit through the battery connector as well as the atty.
I also solder the brass tube into the battery connector.
The advantage to this is that you can than solder the +ve wire directly to the brass tube.
(Which makes life a lot easier).