The Uphill Struggle to Repeal San Francisco E-Cig Ban

[Robert T. Tan]

The ballot initiative to repeal San Francisco e-cig ban would still leave flavors barred. Who would benefit from that reshuffling of the deck?

Vote For Repeal of E-Cig Ban Does Not Cover Vape Flavors

 

[bombastinator]

Cigarette manufacturers. They’ve been the ones pushing flavor bans for years.

 

[Beamslider]

Well as it stands now the ban is on vape equipment not approved by the FDA beginning in Jan 2020. Isn't that everything? So overturning it would be a good start as vape equipment could still be sold as the FDA isn't enforcing anything yet.

The flavor ban was a separate ordinance and is already in effect. The ban only applies to flavors other than tobacco and only applies to juice containing nicotine. To get around this, vape stores/cig stores sell major brands of flavored juice in 0 MG nicotine and sell separate shots of nicotine to put in the juice yourself. They mainly sell these nicotine shots from Sapphire.

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A vape store owner I know says that currently the City is talking about allowing 5 Vape stores in the city to continue selling vape equipment. Not sure how this would work or why the city would do it. It will create a lot of lawsuits from stores without permit to sell

 

[bombastinator]

Well as it stands now the ban is on vape equipment not approved by the FDA beginning in Jan 2020. Isn't that everything? So overturning it would be a good start as vape equipment could still be sold as the FDA isn't enforcing anything yet.

The flavor ban was a separate ordinance and is already in effect. The ban only applies to flavors other than tobacco and only applies to juice containing nicotine. To get around this, vape stores/cig stores sell major brands of flavored juice in 0 MG nicotine and sell separate shots of nicotine to put in the juice yourself. They mainly sell these nicotine shots from Sapphire.

Concentrated Nicotine Solution Packets | Liquid Nicotine

A vape store owner I know says that currently the City is talking about allowing 5 Vape stores in the city to continue selling vape equipment. Not sure how this would work or why the city would do it. It will create a lot of lawsuits from stores without permit to sell

Be very very interesting if those stores turn out to all be owned by the same guy. Or have the same landlord or some such. It may have certain structures but what it really comes down to is who owns what and who will be put out of business to the benefit of whom.

There was a guy named Schindler who actually agitated for a pornography ban in downtown Minneapolis, but with a caveat: it banned pornography sales only for stores that didn’t sell at least 20% non pornography. What was the deal? He owned “schlindler’s News”. He had several outlets that sold mostly pornography but also sold books and magazines. What he was really doing was making it illegal for anyone to sell pornography EXCEPT HIMSELF.
It all turned out for naught of course since the internet killed dead tree porno and all his stores went under anyway, but I wouldn’t be at all surprised if there was some sort of similar hanky pinky going on there.