SF flavored nicotine product ban passes

[Beamslider]

SF flavor ban passed yesterday. tobacco stores are already ready to roll with bottles of unflavored nicotine base and a separate small flavor bottle to pour into it. One vape store show me the package a few weeks ago as they knew it would pass and are ready to work around it for vaping.

San Francisco Voters Just Approved a Ban on Flavored Tobacco
San Francisco voters on Tuesday passed a proposition that will ban the sale of flavored tobacco products including menthol cigarettes and certain vaping liquids, following a heated debate over the proposal.

A flavored tobacco ban in San Francisco was originally approved by city supervisors, but a referendum eventually gathered enough signatures to leave the issue up to voters. When it appeared on the ballot Tuesday, almost 70% of San Francisco voters ended up backing the proposition

 

[madstabber]

This is insane, now the government is telling adults what they can taste. This makes me sick, how in the hell did 70% vote for this? I’m sure BT infused plenty of cash for advertising and to line pockets but 70% saw commercials saying this was the right thing to do and bought it! The candy and sweet flavors are used to lure children into vaping. You know because once you turn 18 humans no longer like things that taste good. This is embarrassing. Not just for Americans but for humans as a whole.

 

[Papa_Lazarou]

This makes me sick, how in the hell did 70% vote for this?

Because 70% of the people have no empathy for vaping. They've never vaped, don't smoke, and don't have any time to understand. At best they give the issue the 'gut check' - it's for smokers, it involves candy flavours, people are worried about kids... hmmm... can't be a good thing. It's the kind of serious conviction based on sound bites and peer norming that is all too prevalent.

 

[Rossum]

Because 70% of the people have no empathy for vaping. They've never vaped, don't smoke, and don't have any time to understand. At best they give the issue the 'gut check' - it's for smokers, it involves candy flavours, people are worried about kids... hmmm... can't be a good thing. It's the kind of serious conviction based on sound bites and peer norming that is all too prevalent.

Agreed, but it's a sad testament to just how illiberal those folks have become.

 

[Papa_Lazarou]

Agreed, but it's a sad testament to just how illiberal those folks have become.

Yep. Somewhere along the way 'progressive' became 'prescriptive', and this in a city that birthed many aspects of 60's counterculture values. The Grateful Dead might just be that.

 

[bombastinator]

Sounds like very shortly SF will rival New York for cigarette smuggling. Idiots. If the people don’t respect a law it doesn’t get followed.

 

[Cool_Breeze]

@Rossum - Are we talking about illiberal liberals here...

 

[Rossum]

@Rossum - Are we talking about illiberal liberals here...

Now, now, I don't wish to see this thread get kicked Outside.

 

[bombastinator]

@Rossum - Are we talking about illiberal liberals here...

They probably think they’re saving the children. All they’re really saving is the tobacco companies who likely started the whole thing in the first place

 

[dems86]

This is the same city whose representative brought us the bill that reduced knowingly giving someone HIV from a felony to a misdemeanor...I honestly expected nothing less.

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[Rossum]

They probably think they’re saving the children. All they’re really saving is the tobacco companies who likely started the whole thing in the first place

The tobacco companies threw over $12 million into a "No on Prop E" campaign.

 

[zoiDman]

 

[Jumpin' In...]

Kinda curious what this means. Can SF people still order eliquids with nic online? Is it a crime for online, out-of-SF vendors to ship flavored eliquids into SF? How the heck can they police that?

 

[Jeepchk36]

Nothing is surprising any more. California passed a law that prohibits buying any tobacco products until you're 21. Same with marijuana. Does this mean edibles will become illegal because they're catering to kids?!?

 

[madstabber]

Because 70% of the people have no empathy for vaping. They've never vaped, don't smoke, and don't have any time to understand. At best they give the issue the 'gut check' - it's for smokers, it involves candy flavours, people are worried about kids... hmmm... can't be a good thing. It's the kind of serious conviction based on sound bites and peer norming that is all too prevalent.

Yea that’s what I don’t get. If I don’t seriously believe a law is needed I’m voting no. We have too many laws. So generally I would just vote no on anything. You have to convince me the law is absolutely essential. All laws need to be rolled back to 1776 and all politicians fired. That’s right, I think it should be illegal to walk a goat down a street on Sunday and if I need to defend my honor, a duel will be perfectly legal.

 

[dems86]

Duels being outlawed was the beginning of the end.

Yea that’s what I don’t get. If I don’t seriously believe a law is needed I’m voting no. We have too many laws. So generally I would just vote no on anything. You have to convince me the law is absolutely essential. All laws need to be rolled back to 1776 and all politicians fired. That’s right, I think it should be illegal to walk a goat down a street on Sunday and if I need to defend my honor, a duel will be perfectly legal.

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[Mr. Relentless]

What about flavored alcohol?

 

[madstabber]

Duels being outlawed was the beginning of the end.

Absolutely, take away the ability to defend one's honor, and all hell breaks loose.

What about flavored alcohol?

Don’t give these idiots any ideas.

 

[Painter_]

Let me say that it is amazing to me when one uses one of their rights to take away another one of their rights.

 

[Rossum]

Let me say that it is amazing to me when one uses one of their rights to take away another one of their rights.

Unfortunately, that is readily accomplished by a process called "voting".

It really wasn't supposed to be that way.