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SF flavored nicotine product ban passes

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  1. Beamslider

    Beamslider Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    May 29, 2017
    San Francisco
    SF flavor ban passed yesterday. Tobacco stores are already ready to roll with bottles of unflavored nicotine base and a separate small flavor bottle to pour into it. One vape store show me the package a few weeks ago as they knew it would pass and are ready to work around it for vaping.

    San Francisco Voters Just Approved a Ban on Flavored Tobacco
    San Francisco voters on Tuesday passed a proposition that will ban the sale of flavored tobacco products including menthol cigarettes and certain vaping liquids, following a heated debate over the proposal.

    A flavored tobacco ban in San Francisco was originally approved by city supervisors, but a referendum eventually gathered enough signatures to leave the issue up to voters. When it appeared on the ballot Tuesday, almost 70% of San Francisco voters ended up backing the proposition
     
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  2. madstabber

    madstabber Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    This is insane, now the government is telling adults what they can taste. This makes me sick, how in the hell did 70% vote for this? I’m sure BT infused plenty of cash for advertising and to line pockets but 70% saw commercials saying this was the right thing to do and bought it! The candy and sweet flavors are used to lure children into vaping. You know because once you turn 18 humans no longer like things that taste good. This is embarrassing. Not just for Americans but for humans as a whole.
     
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  3. Papa_Lazarou

    Papa_Lazarou MKUltra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Because 70% of the people have no empathy for vaping. They've never vaped, don't smoke, and don't have any time to understand. At best they give the issue the 'gut check' - it's for smokers, it involves candy flavours, people are worried about kids... hmmm... can't be a good thing. It's the kind of serious conviction based on sound bites and peer norming that is all too prevalent.
     
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  4. Rossum

    Rossum Surly Curmudgeon Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Dec 14, 2013
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    Agreed, but it's a sad testament to just how illiberal those folks have become.
     
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  5. Papa_Lazarou

    Papa_Lazarou MKUltra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Yep. Somewhere along the way 'progressive' became 'prescriptive', and this in a city that birthed many aspects of 60's counterculture values. The Grateful Dead might just be that.
     
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  6. bombastinator

    bombastinator Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 12, 2010
    MN USA
    Sounds like very shortly SF will rival New York for cigarette smuggling. Idiots. If the people don’t respect a law it doesn’t get followed.
     
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  7. Cool_Breeze

    Cool_Breeze Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 10, 2011
    Kentucky
    @Rossum - Are we talking about illiberal liberals here...
     
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  8. Rossum

    Rossum Surly Curmudgeon Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Now, now, I don't wish to see this thread get kicked Outside. ;)
     
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  9. bombastinator

    bombastinator Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 12, 2010
    MN USA
    They probably think they’re saving the children. All they’re really saving is the tobacco companies who likely started the whole thing in the first place
     
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  10. dems86

    dems86 Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 3, 2014
    Sacramento, CA, US
    This is the same city whose representative brought us the bill that reduced knowingly giving someone HIV from a felony to a misdemeanor...I honestly expected nothing less.

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  11. Rossum

    Rossum Surly Curmudgeon Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    The tobacco companies threw over $12 million into a "No on Prop E" campaign.
     
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  12. zoiDman

    zoiDman My -0^10 = Nothing at All* ECF Veteran

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    So-Cal
    Vape_Dominoes.jpg
     
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  13. Jumpin' In...

    Jumpin' In... Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 11, 2013
    Maui, Hawaii
    Kinda curious what this means. Can SF people still order eliquids with nic online? Is it a crime for online, out-of-SF vendors to ship flavored eliquids into SF? How the heck can they police that? :confused:
     
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  14. Jeepchk36

    Jeepchk36 Full Member

    Jun 6, 2018
    Albuquerque, NM
    Nothing is surprising any more. California passed a law that prohibits buying any tobacco products until you're 21. Same with .......... Does this mean edibles will become illegal because they're catering to kids?!?
     
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  15. madstabber

    madstabber Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Yea that’s what I don’t get. If I don’t seriously believe a law is needed I’m voting no. We have too many laws. So generally I would just vote no on anything. You have to convince me the law is absolutely essential. All laws need to be rolled back to 1776 and all politicians fired. That’s right, I think it should be illegal to walk a goat down a street on Sunday and if I need to defend my honor, a duel will be perfectly legal.
     
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  16. dems86

    dems86 Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 3, 2014
    Sacramento, CA, US
    Duels being outlawed was the beginning of the end.
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  17. Mr. Relentless

    Mr. Relentless Super Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 17, 2017
    What about flavored alcohol?
     
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  18. madstabber

    madstabber Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Absolutely, take away the ability to defend one's honor, and all hell breaks loose.
    Don’t give these idiots any ideas.
     
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  19. Painter_

    Painter_ Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 21, 2013
    In my happy place
    Let me say that it is amazing to me when one uses one of their rights to take away another one of their rights.
     
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  20. Rossum

    Rossum Surly Curmudgeon Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Unfortunately, that is readily accomplished by a process called "voting".

    It really wasn't supposed to be that way.
     
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