TY AG for sharing those test results. Now maybe that issue can finally be laid to rest.
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TY AG for sharing those test results. Now maybe that issue can finally be laid to rest.
Happy vape-a-versary, AG!!Wishing you a day of smiles as you recall the journey of this last year. Freedom from smoke is freedom!
All the best to you, kiddo. You are a hero!!
Hugs~
Aww! You're too nice! 
I'm a dumb .... piece of .... from outer space who don't know nuttin about nuttin. I'm just here to mislead & misguide new vapers into using a subpar product from a subpar company. Just another idiot Vmodian who's too stupid to come in out of the rain & listen to the smartest guy in the room.
Or not!
Vmods for everyone!
Here's to another year & all of the great things to come along with it!
I'm a dumb .... piece of .... from outer space who don't know nuttin about nuttin. I'm just here to mislead & misguide new vapers into using a subpar product from a subpar company. Just another idiot Vmodian who's too stupid to come in out of the rain & listen to the smartest guy in the room.
Or not!
Vmods for everyone!
Here's to another year & all of the great things to come along with it!
Thanks, Fernand. I appreciate what you said. I am also objective about the VMOD. I do see pros and cons and am thrilled when the cons go away! I love that Brian and Vapage are so on this and receptive to our issues.
I'm sure we all see that you have spent quite a bit of time and energy addressing the probs you've encountered, and I'm also sure that some have benefited greatly from your efforts. I also see that it is important to you to point out potential problems for those considering this mod, along with your solutions. My only concern is that with an extensive list of hazards that might occur, someone might be put off altogether from purchasing this great little mod. I have no data and no percentages, but from what I've read, I think the majority of VMOD owners have had few issues, or better, at least not current issues, since most have been dealt with. With that said, it only makes sense to me that future VMOD owners for the most part will not encounter some of these problems.
I do agree that it is valuable for us to deal with issues as they arise. To have those issues mentioned is not disrespectful to me. It is important and helpful. I actually think the people on this thread would agree, as this 'entourage' seems to be made up of very bright people who are just here to learn about and enjoy their mod, and help others to do the same. It is not (IMO) improper or tactless or in any way shape or form wrong to bring up anything about this mod. In the end tho, we are mod users, not mod creators, and sometimes we just cannot be helpful and come up with easy answers. The problems must be steered to Brian/Vapage for the determinate answer.
Each issue is valid and takes a bit of time and all our genius to resolve. For example, I never had a batt fit problem, but for others who have mentioned it, you came up with a simple and awesome fix! The loose coil issue is also not one I experienced, but your information was valuable to me for the future with these attys, or with any attys. I did experience the burnt taste occasionally. What helped me was to drip a bit more (to allow the coil to soak in some juice) and to check the areas for leakage.
For those that want to mod their cartos, that's cool, and you have been instrumental in teaching us how to do that. I don't want to do that. As I've said before, I want a vape out of the box experience for the most part. My modding stopped at putting in that cruel catch cup!
We and our mods are all going thru growing pains. I'm glad we have each other so that we can bounce around ideas.
I applaud your efforts.
I hope that those who choose to purchase this mod enjoy the He11 out of it.
I await the brilliant revisions from Vapage.
Vape it good~
I'm sure we all see that you have spent quite a bit of time and energy addressing the probs you've encountered, and I'm also sure that some have benefited greatly from your efforts. I also see that it is important to you to point out potential problems for those considering this mod, along with your solutions. My only concern is that with an extensive list of hazards that might occur, someone might be put off altogether from purchasing this great little mod. I have no data and no percentages, but from what I've read, I think the majority of VMOD owners have had few issues, or better, at least not current issues, since most have been dealt with. With that said, it only makes sense to me that future VMOD owners for the most part will not encounter some of these problems.
I do agree that it is valuable for us to deal with issues as they arise. To have those issues mentioned is not disrespectful to me. It is important and helpful. I actually think the people on this thread would agree, as this 'entourage' seems to be made up of very bright people who are just here to learn about and enjoy their mod, and help others to do the same. It is not (IMO) improper or tactless or in any way shape or form wrong to bring up anything about this mod. In the end tho, we are mod users, not mod creators, and sometimes we just cannot be helpful and come up with easy answers. The problems must be steered to Brian/Vapage for the determinate answer.
Each issue is valid and takes a bit of time and all our genius to resolve. For example, I never had a batt fit problem, but for others who have mentioned it, you came up with a simple and awesome fix! The loose coil issue is also not one I experienced, but your information was valuable to me for the future with these attys, or with any attys. I did experience the burnt taste occasionally. What helped me was to drip a bit more (to allow the coil to soak in some juice) and to check the areas for leakage.
For those that want to mod their cartos, that's cool, and you have been instrumental in teaching us how to do that. I don't want to do that. As I've said before, I want a vape out of the box experience for the most part. My modding stopped at putting in that cruel catch cup!
We and our mods are all going thru growing pains. I'm glad we have each other so that we can bounce around ideas.
I applaud your efforts.
I hope that those who choose to purchase this mod enjoy the He11 out of it.
I await the brilliant revisions from Vapage.
Vape it good~
Iffy, you sound very angry. I'm not sure who you are addressing, but if your post was aimed at me, I would like to know, and I would like to know why.
My gawd, when will the piling on stop? As an 'outsider' that owns two V-Mods, I consider some of you shameless!
OK, so some of you gave inputs to get the V-Mod to where it is functionally... and promote the future needed improvements. Good for ya'll. But, someone else comes in and provides constructive criticisms with practical solutions and WHOA, "You're a hater", "You diss others", "Why are you here?", etc. Do you realize how small that appears to those mining V-Mod info prior to a purchase? Obviously not!
Truth be told, IMHO, an eGo batt and an eMDCC provides more flav and vapor than the V-Mod ever has for me. "Why do you have two V-Mods if that's the way you feel?", you may ask. 'Cause I like the style, ergonomics, convenience and a satisfactory vape. But some of you...
BTW, if one was to check what Fernand has posted elsewhere in the ECF about the V-Mod, ya might appreciate his evaluation and give him credit due!
@AG, I don't understand. Have you ever seen an orange-hot wire? Would you guess that it's hotter or colder than 280 degrees? It's around 870 degrees (1600 deg F). What "testing" on what planet can possibly "reveal" that a glowing wire stays colder than 280 degrees C for 30 seconds? or that it's not in contact with juice except after 30 seconds, or that it takes 30 seconds for VG to break down? or what? Does VG decompose to acrolein at 280 degrees or not? With a heat source at 870 degrees dipped in juice how can you possibly control how much VG gets broken down? Any change in position can slosh more liquid on the hot wire. Are we waiting for the whole atty or the whole Vmod to reach 280 degrees? Moreover, haven't you tasted it? If someone at Vapage told you the earth is flat for 30 seconds each night would you repeat that too?
I'm not one to exaggerate toxicity issues, but this one IS a hazard. You should not dismiss decomposing e-liquid as nothing much, or "only after 30 seconds". It's irresponsible. In normal attys with coils immersed, or wicking from juice residue in mesh, the temp never reaches 280 deg, and acrolein is NOT formed. But coil sections being orange-hot is a different case entirely, and (like a dry-burn) should not be vaped, ever. THOSE attys should be discarded or sent back.
Acrolein is really quite toxic, was used as a chemical weapon and causes nerve damage. There are traces in cigarette smoke, and it's emerging as a suspect in the development of Multiple Sclerosis. What exactly do you have in mind in cartos as "worse than acrolein"?
You drive a car with the understanding that it can be very dangerous. Even a flat tire can send you into oncoming traffic. E-cigs have potential dangers, and are not unique that way.
@Kat, I think the Vmod is one of several practical ways to have "all-day" vaping. None of these systems are perfect. It's unrealistic to paint any of them as free of problems, and every sensible person knows that. Openness and discussion is a better approach, it's not "disrespectful". Many people who buy a Vmod after hearing nothing but endless praise will feel angry. Because it takes some fiddling. Then Vapage gets harmful reviews and very negative word of mouth. For instance, if GrimmGreen had seen the Vmod users acknowledging and actively solving the same problems he ran into, he probably would have been kinder, and more involved. There are also people who like and use every system as-is, and there are some who give up; the Vmod is like anything else. I'm pretty sure you see my point.
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I'm too stupid to engage you in conversation.
If you say it...it must be right & true.
If you say it...it must be right & true.
Where are my "very angry" words? If anything, I'm just very disappointed for the reasons I gave. My post was aimed at those that are guilty of and/or support the attitudes I listed in the second paragraph. Are you one of those? Your call...
AG, congrats on your vet status! Glad we can provide some entertainment between the two of us ;-)
But, come on, it's not fair to bring up a debatable, possibly valid, argument, like the 30 seconds, and then cry foul when the validity of the argument is debated.
edit: When I said I didn't believe the 30 second "rule" it wasn't to imply Vapage was misleading anyone, just that I don't think they tested realistically, in motion, or can cover all the cases. IMHO with a glowing wire, with glycerin in juice sloshing, you've got acrolein formed, as sure as chemistry.
But, come on, it's not fair to bring up a debatable, possibly valid, argument, like the 30 seconds, and then cry foul when the validity of the argument is debated.
edit: When I said I didn't believe the 30 second "rule" it wasn't to imply Vapage was misleading anyone, just that I don't think they tested realistically, in motion, or can cover all the cases. IMHO with a glowing wire, with glycerin in juice sloshing, you've got acrolein formed, as sure as chemistry.
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I'm having a small party tonite. Only AG, Fernand and Iffy are invited. LOL!
If you all see fireworks emanating from our location, you'll know it was indeed a great fest!
If you all see fireworks emanating from our location, you'll know it was indeed a great fest!
I'm having a small party tonite. Only AG, Fernand and Iffy are invited. LOL!
If you all see fireworks emanating from our location, you'll know it was indeed a great fest!
Oh, no Kat, we need you to be the lovely princess the knights can joust over!
Just a little correction ----- GrimmGreen did check in here and got some good advice. As you may recall, he had a big leaking problem. Not so after chatting with us here on the feed system----and then he did the review. I believe this was in August, and quite a bit prior to the new chassis & catch cup addition.
Has he done another review since then that I haven't seen?
Has he done another review since then that I haven't seen?
Fernand, you are attempting to start something with the wrong person. If you question the validity or methods of the testing, you need to take that to Brian.
Can you please site links to the claims you make? I would like to read for myself about this decomp.
It is obvious you did not read the entire thread since you insist we Vmodians do not discuss issues and solutions. The difference is we were able to state our preferences using forum ettiquite and not bashing a vendor. Your claim is offensive.
Can you please site links to the claims you make? I would like to read for myself about this decomp.
It is obvious you did not read the entire thread since you insist we Vmodians do not discuss issues and solutions. The difference is we were able to state our preferences using forum ettiquite and not bashing a vendor. Your claim is offensive.
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