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Oh no, a VV V-mod?!?!? Ummmm... call it the V²-mod or V³-mod!

Or just the Varoom! Mod.

Kat the batteries are barely able to fit widthwise so i was thinking the tape would make it crazy tight. I dixthinkof that though ;)

Are you talking dirty to me?? :facepalm:

I got one of the Burl (correct spelling-Burel is a city in northern Albania) bodies and love it. Between the fine detail, silkscreen(?), and the slightly rubberized feeling its smooth as silk with a warm feeling to it.

Anyway I was thinking that in the next release Vapage should do some leather bodies. I would love a worn latigo or Buffalo or some of the more exotics like alligator or elephant. The detail is so good that I would be interested in something as mundane as a brick wall.

What would you like to see?

On a different note what attys/cartos ohms are you using with a 14500 battery? I'm trying to find my sweet spot without having to buy new batteries.

Leopard, daaaarling, leopard for this Kitty. Someday, I will have my leopard mod. (At which point, I will give my pretty purple to the Vikki.)

I agree with AG on the choice of attys for the VMOD. Go with the 1.5Ω, or the LR Silos (which I do believe are not in stock at this time).

Word (no, I'm not a rapper and I don't play one on TV, but I did feel like writing that)...

I bought a Barfly from Vapage for a friend who INSISTED they wanted a disposable. I had the op to try it out last nite. It was fantastic! We both loved it and I do recommend them for those instances where a disposable is just the ticket.
 

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It's obvious that there are very fine people here.

I don't mind doing my own alterations, but my wife just quit smoking and urgently needed a practical and "no issues" PV. Money's tight. Based on all the amazingly glowing reports, I ordered her a VMOD. :blush: 'Nuff said.

BTW, the black finish on mine is something like an epoxy paint. It can be scratched, but you'd have to really work at it. The red is like anodized, it scratches off even where the cone screws down. Is this tough black finish something new? Is the silver also like a lacquered/epoxy finish or just anodizing?
 

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Hi all! I'm new to ECF and also the VMOD. I received mine in the mail a few days ago, and I'm loving it so far. I'm still getting the hang of it, and I'm still making my way through this massive thread (about 250 pages in). I ordered the "system" that comes with the batteries, charger, etc. It came with a 2.2 carto and a 2.0 atomizer. I have a couple of the 1.5 atomizer's coming in the mail, so I'm looking forward to trying those out. I had a couple of questions, and I apologize if they've been answered already in the thread.

Cartomizer vs atomizer - I know the why's and how's on a normal e-cig (and prefer dripping on an atomizer normally), but I'm still a little unclear what the positives and negatives are to each with the VMOD. It almost seems like the silo cartomizer for the vmod is almost like an atomizer. To those who prefer one to other, why do you feel that way? So far, I feel like I'm having better luck with the cartomizer - with the atomizer, I seem to consistently get a burnt taste, like I'm not feeding it enough, but when I try to feed more frequently, I over-feed. I seem to get only 2 or 3 drags off the atty before I start getting a burnt taste. The cartomizer seems more forgiving.

High voltage batteries vs low resistance atty/carto - what's the difference between using a high voltage battery + higher resistance atomizer, compared to using normal voltage baterries + low resistance atomizer? It seems like they both affect the wattage of the device... Is it really six of one, half dozen of the other? Or is there a functional difference between say, a 5v + 2.8 ohm (about 8.9 watts) setup, compared to 3.7v + 1.5 ohm (about 9.1 watts). To those who enjoy high voltage on the vmod, why do you prefer to a low resistance set up?

When using the atomizer, should I drip some liquid into it after long periods of inactivity (after sleeping for instance), or should I try to feed extra to make sure the atty isn't dry?

Finally, I've noticed while using the atomizer that a lot of times, when I start to get a burnt taste, I'll feed more juice and see some vapor come out of the drip tip - should I expect to see this, or is this a bad sign? I feel like it means I'm letting the atomizer get too dry, so when I feed more juice in, it instantly gets vaporized.

Anyway - sorry for the newbie questions! I'm really enjoying the vmod so far - I'm hoping once the 1.5 atty's come in I'll start to get a little more flavor out of it - so far I get more flavor using my Ego passthrough direct dripping on a 1.5 atomizer, but the vmod is so much more convenient.
 

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Fernand --- the silver (the original) is an anodized finish. Since I originally bought it for a "purse mod" I chose silver because it doesn't show the inevitable scratches easily. Sorry to hear that the rust one is being frail.

As you (and your wife) are disappointed---do I dare suggest you fill up a bunch of carto's for her (whichever she prefers) and just use without the feeding. She could probably even fit a couple filled ones in where the bottle goes. That's the least hassle way to go....and could alieve a bit of the frustration of quitting the analogs. Vmod is a good purse mod --- I've had many others fire on their own., even with expensive cases....... The top button is a safety feature for me -- and so good I never turn it off. And, a 14500 battery is so so so much long living (and cheaper) than the nicer than many other choices.

OK, now that I've rambled -- back to the subject--finishes:

In my past profession I worked with some of the toughest anodized and painted aluminum surfaces---they all ding & scratch. I ended up pealing & sanding off the painted finishes on my ego's after quite some use. And, I also own one of the toughest car finish painted little mods I know of with extra coating---and the prior owner managed to chip that. (I got some nail polish for touch up as I don't want to part with it for the repainting!)

Don't have any experience with the new anodized colors or other finishes -- yet. The finish on the fancy ones looks quite interesting to me---and I'm thinking that that "softness" might have sure durability.
 

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Hi all! I'm new to ECF and also the VMOD. I received mine in the mail a few days ago, and I'm loving it so far. I'm still getting the hang of it, and I'm still making my way through this massive thread (about 250 pages in). I ordered the "system" that comes with the batteries, charger, etc. It came with a 2.2 carto and a 2.0 atomizer. I have a couple of the 1.5 atomizer's coming in the mail, so I'm looking forward to trying those out. I had a couple of questions, and I apologize if they've been answered already in the thread.

For one -- welcome to ECF and the Vmod!

You don't have to read ALL the pages. If you look at the bottom of the page you will see some references to some of the more informative postings about this mod.


Cartomizer vs atomizer - I know the why's and how's on a normal e-cig (and prefer dripping on an atomizer normally), but I'm still a little unclear what the positives and negatives are to each with the VMOD. It almost seems like the silo cartomizer for the vmod is almost like an atomizer. To those who prefer one to other, why do you feel that way? So far, I feel like I'm having better luck with the cartomizer - with the atomizer, I seem to consistently get a burnt taste, like I'm not feeding it enough, but when I try to feed more frequently, I over-feed. I seem to get only 2 or 3 drags off the atty before I start getting a burnt taste. The cartomizer seems more forgiving.


I'll let others have a go at this one. The easy answer is that if one has been preferring atty's -- atty's are the way to go. Also, must add --- so cool you got a kit with both atty & carto. I had heard that was in the works but didn't know it had occurred.


High voltage batteries vs low resistance atty/carto - what's the difference between using a high voltage battery + higher resistance atomizer, compared to using normal voltage baterries + low resistance atomizer? It seems like they both affect the wattage of the device... Is it really six of one, half dozen of the other? Or is there a functional difference between say, a 5v + 2.8 ohm (about 8.9 watts) setup, compared to 3.7v + 1.5 ohm (about 9.1 watts). To those who enjoy high voltage on the vmod, why do you prefer to a low resistance set up?

Oh boy -- that's an OHM's law thing and ECF is loaded with data. Strongly suggest you start with the 3.7 batteries (normal voltage) and what came with your kit and also trying the 1.5 LR's if you like.

Scientifically, if the formula comes out with the same result, one would get the same result (wattage) and vape. Low Res takes more energy---so battery changes needed more frequently. That fits into the equation when dealing with the HV and VV discussions.


When using the atomizer, should I drip some liquid into it after long periods of inactivity (after sleeping for instance), or should I try to feed extra to make sure the atty isn't dry?

Finally, I've noticed while using the atomizer that a lot of times, when I start to get a burnt taste, I'll feed more juice and see some vapor come out of the drip tip - should I expect to see this, or is this a bad sign? I feel like it means I'm letting the atomizer get too dry, so when I feed more juice in, it instantly gets vaporized.

Anyway - sorry for the newbie questions! I'm really enjoying the vmod so far - I'm hoping once the 1.5 atty's come in I'll start to get a little more flavor out of it - so far I get more flavor using my Ego passthrough direct dripping on a 1.5 atomizer, but the vmod is so much more convenient.

I'll let someone else answer some of these, too---but I will say this: One thing I ran into when I was new -- vaping too strongly too often----I call it too aggressive. When the atty heats up, I try to let it cool down a bit --- or just change to another pv.


You'll get it all perfected shortly, I'm sure. Lots of knowledgable folks check in here to help out.
 

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Thanks Tearose! Appreciate the welcome :) I'm cruising around and trying to learn as much as I can. There's so much information about vaping to learn! I wish i had more money to try all the different setups and different juices. I've already spent way too much, but I justify it to myself because it helped me kick analogs, and the fact that I've already saved almost 200$ from not buying cigarettes.

Side note: I just ordered some AG's dream - to see what the big fuss is all about!

Edit: Yes, it came with a 2.2 carto and a 2.0 atomizer! Reading through the thread, I had NO idea how much has changed in just a few months with the vmod. It's really interesting to read about how things were different even a few weeks ago. I really liked the kit - the box it comes in is so cool! It's a square box made out of a silver mesh material, with a solid silver colored top. Very smooth looking.
 
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You betcha --- and I'm still learning!

Be sure and get sample packs of juice --- a wild assortment -- it is amazing what we like. And......we can dislike it one week and pick it up later and it's terrific! Flavor buds go though some changes---especially early on. Suggest different strength's too --- if not you'll be ordering more in a day or two.......like I did.
 

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It's obvious that there are very fine people here.

Lots of knowledgable folks check in here to help out.

There most certainly is, thats why I'm :wub:ing this thread, What could be better than a bunch of knowledgeable wonderful people willing to help out:2cool: Oh yeah, a common :wub: for such a wonderful PV:2cool: Both Vmodians and The Vmod:headbang:
 

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You betcha --- and I'm still learning!

Be sure and get sample packs of juice --- a wild assortment -- it is amazing what we like. And......we can dislike it one week and pick it up later and it's terrific! Flavor buds go though some changes---especially early on. Suggest different strength's too --- if not you'll be ordering more in a day or two.......like I did.

I have bought WAY too much juice in the past month. I'm still waiting for about 20 different flavors from different suppliers to show up in the mail (maybe tomorrow?!?!?). I did order a few sample bottles with the AG's dream - blueberry something, and the gooey butter cake (from suggestions in this thread).

It's been pretty hit and miss so far - I'd say about half the stuff I've tried out I've disliked enough to not use at all, 25% has been mediocre, and the last 25% has been awesome. The stuff from ivape and BWB I picked up has been really interesting though. I'll even say this - the Sweet Caroline (ivape) and Casablanca (BWB) I ordered, I was REALLY disappointed in when they first showed up, but after a little over a week, I've been trying them again and the flavor has already changed dramatically to the point where I like them a lot.
 

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Tearose -- thanks. I think I've solved the issue well enough for me. I drill Boge 2 ohm cartos, and as you can see, I'm getting better at it (good 'ole titanium 1/16" drill bit).
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Drilled low as shown they feed exactly like the Vapage cartos and attys, which I don't think are worth the trouble. For her, trouble is, once shy, always bitten, or something, and she doesn't like it. Fortunately I got her some 280 mAh long black Joye batteries and she loves those. I fix her CE2 cartos full of 30 mg/ml juice, and she's happy now.

Vaptamist -- I'd suggest you check your attys by getting them wet with the squirsh, then take off the drip tip and look down the barrel while you push the button for the time you would normally. ALL of the attys I got ( 2 2.0 ohmers and 2 1.5 ohmers) had glowing orange wire due to the wire not being wound tightly/correctly on the wick, and hence those sections of the wire were not being cooled by liquid. These glowing sections were burning juice and giving a foul burned taste. Although Almighty God here says it ain't so, any glycerin in the juice will decompose above 280 degrees C, producing some acrolein, which smells/tastes sort of like burned grease, and is toxic. I hope that's not the case for you, but do check. If you do have glowing wire, they are defective; return them to Vapage and don't vape them. If it's a different problem, someone here who's using them can help you better than I. Since I don't like their cartos either, what I've done is make my own cartos by drilling Boge 2 ohm cartos as above. I'm enjoying the VMOD that way.

As to voltage etc, it's mostly the wattage of course. But some people are into the battery curves and like to ride that initial hot vape. At 1.5 ohms you're drawing more than these little 14500 batteries are designed for; YMMV. If you series two batteries, they are even smaller capacity, so the lower voltage setup will run longer.
 
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Ok, I did a lil test tonite with my with my 2 different mods:

In one hand was my silver bodied/purple dt vmod~ new 2.2 silo and vr's kentucky vanilla blend. In my other hand was my gorgeously purple/purple dt vv original buzz ~ white map tank (don't know the ohm of ce2 as I bought it off classy's) and vr's kentucky vanilla blend. Put buzz down to 3.49 as that's as low as it'll go, couldn't check the volt on vmod as the dohickey wouldn't fit in the thingy majigger from the volt thingy I bought. (Please excuse my technical terms, don't want to lose anyone here) It has a 510 thread but I guess it was to short, but I'm thinking that the 2 of them were pretty even, at least enough for my test.

For the test settings: I was sitting in our living room watching X facor w/my grampa (he slept thru most of it and I was only watching it cuz he wanted to) and playing games on my ipod touch for this test.

Now for my findings: The flavor was pretty close on both not too hot, not too cold, hmmm just right.. Then we got to the vapor and holy sh** batman, I couldn't see my ipod when I was vaping the vmod, it was putting out way more vapor than the buzz and the buzz was no slouch..

Final Thoughts: I had forgotten how much vape this lil gem puts out. This thing is like a steam engine or a vaping machine. The vmod puts out great vapor, whether you're using a 1.5 atty or a 2.2 silo.. At that point it's just a matter of personal preference. Did I mention no squirshing did I need?
 

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Vaptamist -- In the last year I spent a fair amount on vaping after quitting smoking. A lot of batteries, juice, burners of all sorts. Then I got into so-called DIY. Buying flavoring, glassware etc. But I wasn't buying ready-made juice. When the year was said and done, I was surprised to find that while I had spent around $1500, I was still $2200 ahead. After you get an idea of what you like, if you look at flavoring, a number of places like ecigexpress carry FlavourArt's, who are very vape-health conscious, you can make your own juice for pennies, AND control what you vape. Leaves more money for other necessities like VMODs etc.
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Cartomizer vs atomizer - I know the why's and how's on a normal e-cig (and prefer dripping on an atomizer normally), but I'm still a little unclear what the positives and negatives are to each with the VMOD. It almost seems like the silo cartomizer for the vmod is almost like an atomizer. To those who prefer one to other, why do you feel that way? So far, I feel like I'm having better luck with the cartomizer - with the atomizer, I seem to consistently get a burnt taste, like I'm not feeding it enough, but when I try to feed more frequently, I over-feed. I seem to get only 2 or 3 drags off the atty before I start getting a burnt taste. The cartomizer seems more forgiving.

WELCOME to the VMod community...
As far as atty vs silo- for me I prefer the silos. Reason being my DIY juices tend to be lighter in flavor. I tend to get a burnt taste quickly from the atty and even the 1.8 silos for some juices. I do have a few 'fuller flavor' juices that work well with the atty or 1.8 silos.
I've found it's a bit of matching the atty / silo / ohms to each juice. Once again- one size does not fit all (IMHO).
 

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I think I've solved the issue well enough for me. I drill Boge 2 ohm cartos, and as you can see, I'm getting better at it (good 'ole titanium 1/16" drill bit).
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Drilled low as shown they feed exactly like the Vapage cartos and attys, which I don't think are worth the trouble.

FERNAND- VERY NICE JOB with the drilling of feed hole, I'm jealous. I've done a few but they are no where as 'clean' cut. I also used a 1/16 titanium bit- on a regular drill. I found it took ALOT of pressure to drill through. (And apparently so the the drill bit when it broke during my third try)

Did you use a dremel or a regular drill?
Did you use a punch to help keep the bit started and in place?
 
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