Thermo @ 6v + dual coil cartos

[six]

They're still not impervious to burning. That's the nature of filler carto's. They were also not designed to run at 6v but they can be as some have had success with them.

I've been as far as 7.4 v and stwonz got to 8.0v without burning any filler. I've scorched juice above 6.0v, but have not burned filler nor blown a coil. These dual coils are a completely different animal than a normal carto. -- I mentioned earlier in the thread that some juices are easier to scorch than others. All of my juices that have alcohol based flavorings and all of my 100% PG juices will scorch, but I'm happily vaping some very thick very dark back woods brew applewood tobacco about 5 minutes into a fresh set of batts reading loaded at 6.3v right this moment with no scorched juice taste. The apple flavor isn't as pronounced at this temperature, but the juice isn't scorching.

You should pick up a pack. They defy logic, but they don't really defy physics once the increased surface area and new filler material are taken in to consideration.

 

[Modrod.]

The whole ohm to voltage set up is confusing for me. I've had my KR8 burn juice with a 2.4-2.6 ohm and yet a 3.0 ohm could sustain a 6 volt as well as a dual coil which equals 1.6? Lol, I might be better off buy buying 1 of every resistance level available and just figuring it out the monetary way.

But for example the 1.6 dual coil, they're now offering it in 1.25, so this would burn juice even quicker than the current one correct? I would think people would have wanted a higher one than 1.6, since these dual coil ohms are apparently magical lol.

But I really need to try 6v again with like a 3.5 or 4.0 ohm I THINK is what I'm getting from this...with dual coils just confusing me altogether unless I'm getting a good vape from them lol. But now that I've given it more testing, even at 3.6 these dual coils are a little hot, no where near burning or anything, but the taste just isn't as full as it could be.

Trying Ikenvapes gold v2 cartomizers tommorow...will see how that goes

I've read that the IKV's v2's are really good. I wished he would have made some for us HV vapers though.

I've been as far as 7.4 v and stwonz got to 8.0v without burning any filler. I've scorched juice above 6.0v, but have not burned filler nor blown a coil. These dual coils are a completely different animal than a normal carto. -- I mentioned earlier in the thread that some juices are easier to scorch than others. All of my juices that have alcohol based flavorings and all of my 100% PG juices will scorch, but I'm happily vaping some very thick very dark back woods brew applewood tobacco about 5 minutes into a fresh set of batts reading loaded at 6.3v right this moment with no scorched juice taste. The apple flavor isn't as pronounced at this temperature, but the juice isn't scorching.

You should pick up a pack. They defy logic, but they don't really defy physics once the increased surface area and new filler material are taken in to consideration.

I don't doubt they can handle the voltage. I'm just saying that burning of some sort is always possible which the OP was describing. I know what you're saying though. I'm really enjoying the new CE2's with the fat wicks. The flavor is extremely clean/good and the vapor production is great (from my experience). I've tried a lot of cartos and I can't see myself going back to a filler carto anytime soon.

 

[Grimloki]

Tenergy 3.0v that are recommended are 3.7v with a circuit in the battery that drops them to 3.0v.

They should be 3.0v off the charger, no matter what.

Personally I'd recommend AW IMR with the dual coils. They are 3.7v batteries that have a higher current output than regular Li-ion batteries, and I believe the dual coil atomizers draw 2.5 amps or more, so you need something that puts out lots of current (a battery with a high c rating).

The AW IMR puts out up to 4c, and I think the LiFePo from AW put out a high current as well, but you would want to check on that before you get any.

Also, the 17670 that fits in the thermo is 3.7v, and puts out a little over 3.2amps.

How much current your batteries can put out matters more than the voltage, IMO

 

[LegioX]

So I've done a bit more experimenting, as well as purchase that 5v battery.

I tried the 510 gold v2 ikv carto today. I have to say, excluding the dual coils for the moment, its thebest carto I have tried yet. The taste is so clean and the pull is so smooth. Amazing product. I got the drip tip ones and worth every penny. I've had a few thoughts on them so far though, and regarding volts and whether to stick with these or the dual coils.

No idea what the ohm rating is on these, I'm guessing 3.0 ish? AT 3.6-7volts they are very cool. I like them but I think a bit more heat would bring the flavor to full bearing. The vapor is good though. SO I am thinking that maybe I could use these at a higher voltage and they would be perfect. I will try these out with the 4.8v 600mah megladon battery when it arrives, I just hope its not 'too' hot, but seeing how cool it is at 3.7 I think it might just be perfect. I'm anxious to try.
I am actually used to vaping @ 5v volts because I have a KR8 pass-thru which I almost forgot was 5.1v. And with some 3.0 ohm blanks I had been using with that pass-thru, the hit was actually about perfect. Burns the juice faster, obviously, but not sure how it affected the carto ITSELF. A tiny bit cooler and it would be perfect. SO since its technically 5.1 volts and that other battery I ordered is 4.8v, combined with a 3.0 ohm carto it might be my sweet spot. I shall see!

As for the dual coils, I'm starting to really like them at 3.6 volts. Like a lot. Its not too hot, just the right temperature for me. I prefer dual coils @ 3.6 than the IKV ones @ 3.6.
Like I've said I'm not really sure how resistances work or if the lower/higher versions of these would be better for my needs, but I think vaping these at anything higher than 4volts might be a tad bit too much, but will still give it a try @ 4.8v to see. The fact that they hold a lot of juice and absorbs very quick is awesome, but I'm thinking the fact that its dual coil will be burning the juice faster than the extra juice lasts me. *shrug*

As for taste though, best I can tell the IKV ones do taste a bit better, not sure if its just high quality polyfill or what, but its very clean. I think I detect hints of something in the dual coils. The wires in mine look copper, I'm scared these are emitting copper gasses, is this possible?

Either way I have some enjoyable vaping opportunities at the moment and the search for the perfect vape is just about over, which I am VERY relieved with, because I want to just fill a carto or two every night, charge my batts, and never think about anything else, just need it to be right.

On another note, my 510 expert atty came, and oh man, I dripped a few drops in and its the cleanest taste I've ever experienced. It tastes so clean I actually thought it was ruining the flavor until I realized I'm just NOT tasting polyfill hahah. Couldn't see myself doing this often, and it looks like they need a ton of cleaning and maintenance. Do I have to like to wash it out every time I change flavors or something? Meh.

I have no clue how to use these 510 tank cartridges though. Its a plastic clear hollow piece with a polyfill stopper. Do I take that out and just pour juice in, and the polyfill holds it in place? Sounds sketchy lol.

Thanks for the tips everyone its been very helpful.
Vape on!

 

[six]

The wires in mine look copper, I'm scared these are emitting copper gasses, is this possible?

No need to worry. The wires are coated. I've dissected a few of them now and no matter if the top of the wire is green, blue, black, or copper colored, they are all coated.

 

[LegioX]

No need to worry. The wires are coated. I've dissected a few of them now and no matter if the top of the wire is green, blue, black, or copper colored, they are all coated.

Cool that is reassuring. Was worried for a minute. My Megladon batt should be here monday heh should be pretty sweet thx for the suggestion. What a cool color too!

Just saw the IKV gold v2s are rated 2.5 ohms. Are these safe to use with the Megladon?

 

[Modrod.]

2.5 will be fine up to 5v. The vapor will be warmer as well.

 

[jnnfrlsw]

I have the tenergy 3.0v batts in my thermo and cannot get any of my dual cartos to work. Fires right up using a regular 510 carto as well as the 801 atty that came with the thermo/sp2 kit. I love the dual cartos on my 5v GLV2 was wanting to use them on the thermo as well. Any suggestions?

 

[LegioX]

Vaping my thermo @ 4.8v 600mah. Thanks six. Its vaping like a champ with dual coils and @ 2.5 ohm single coil. Fricken mint! Do you know anything about the batterys voltage range? How high is it at full overcharge and how low it goes?

I could see myself using this thermo @ 4.8v for ever and everything, unless they make a smaller version but even still might not want to spend the extra money.

Thanks everyone for helping me achieve "MY perfect vape"! I'm quite satisfied. The dual coils are a bit warm, but no where near too hot or scorching I think. The 2.5 is pretty good, I'm curious how 3.0 would go. Though a Dual coil @ something higher than my current 1.5ish might be even better.

All thats left to do now is wait for the CE3 and hope I choose the correct ohm and pray to the gods that it WORKSS

 

[six]

Sure do. One of mine comes off the charger around 5.6v, drops almost immediately to 5.4. Under load immediately, it vapes at 5.2. - As they drain, they end up dying around 4.6 or 4.5. -- My other one doesn't perform as well and isn't charging quite right, so I won't bother giving you the numbers on that one. It works, just not as well as the other. Madvapes will be carrying these (or nearly identical ones) soon, so availability will improve.

My only gripe is that the dual coils drain these batts fast. I only bought 2 of them... As soon as they are in stock again, I'll get two more and a second charger. And, I'll probably end up getting another pair and another charger to keep at work this summer.

Just a "by the way": Hang on to your 6.0v batts. When these dual coils start plugging up and gaining resistance, you can vape them at 6.0v for a couple of fills. As their resistance rises, you won't scorch juice. So, when you're about to throw one away because it's starting to under-perform, try it at 6.0.

 

[LegioX]

Thanks for that data. They are more powerful than I thought! I figured they'd go to like 5.2 and then drop to 4.8 quickly. Not sure if its safe now to be using 2.5 ohm cartos on a fresh batt. I might have to grab some 3.0s.But I will try letting my 3v batts drain a little bit over time in a box until one of my dual coils gets gunked up enough to try it out. Should be intense. Even with my current megladon batt I can take a 2 second pull and get a cloud of vapor! Its great.

 

[LegioX]

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[six]

Just keep the atty wet. I have a 2.5 ohm standard joye atty that's held up well on my 5.0v batts. As long as it stays wet, I don't worry too much.

 

[LegioX]

Well thats good news. I can always carry a little JC 3ml dropper bottle around with me if I only need 1 cartomizer to begin with. I always get scared its going to leak through and come out the other end. But being able to shave an extra half inch off this thermo is more than welcome, despite the great feel it has compared to my flimsy KR8s.

By the way grats on post 420 have one on me

 

[tricci]

Never got a burnt taste with my Dual Coil cartos @ 6 volts. These things rock!

 

[Eddie.Willers]

The dual coils are two 3.2 ohm coils in series for a total resistance of 1.6 ohms.

Just for clarity - in case anyone searches this post later.

2 coils of 3.2 ohms each in SERIES equals 6.4 ohms TOTAL RESISTANCE
2 coils of 3.2 ohms each in PARALLEL (as in a dual coil carto) equals 1.6 ohms total

 

[John Phoenix]

I have found with my dual coils at 5v that if you fill them all the way they get hot and the juice inside seems like it's boiling. I think there needs to be a lil more air for them to vape right at this point. I make sure I don't over fill them now. On 6v I can see how this effect would be enhanced.

 

[mjones]

My 18650 is a bit too wide to fit into the thermo, also madvapes sells 4.5 and 5 ohm attys and cartos, those should hold up 6v or higher. I haven't tried them yet but will be soon for sure.