They killed off ry4!
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Just looking at their latest newsletter. I don't see anything about discontinuing RY4 or E-joker....just not to order more than one bottle, and that there's a "suprise" in store for RY4 (sure it won't be a bad one).
Newsletter 3/10
Newsletter 3/10
I just bought ejoker a few days ago......
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After checking my email and actually reading a vendor email I saw where this post originated.
It appears that BWB is discontinuing production of the RY4 and eJoker due to overwhelming demand and the inability to keep up with that demand. Perhaps I should "trade" this ejoker I just got for a modest profit.
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After checking my email and actually reading a vendor email I saw where this post originated.
It appears that BWB is discontinuing production of the RY4 and eJoker due to overwhelming demand and the inability to keep up with that demand. Perhaps I should "trade" this ejoker I just got for a modest profit.
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You are 9 days early puffed..
Seriously though, hope you are mistaken, haven tried the ry4 yet.
Seriously though, hope you are mistaken, haven tried the ry4 yet.
It was announced in the newsletter today. When stock runs out they will be discontinued. It's about supply/demand. Too much aggravation involved, I don't blame him one bit. People are getting their panties in a bunch over it all. I have faith he'll develop something better.
Well, poo. I hadn't even tried their RY4 yet. Just got put on the notification list for the next time it's available.
So it is in high demand and they stop making it? Is this not the wish of all businesses, to have a product that is in high demand? I dont understand this at all. I run a business and am happy to have people love my product, of course i can keep up with demand, i make more of the product that is in high demand so i can make more money........I just do not see why it would be discontinued, but i do not know the process so....that is my 2 cents anyways
I found AVEs Raf-a-licious to be similar the BWB RY4 yet better. The latter I found overly honey-sweet, while the former is just right. Don't get me wrong, it's delicious, but there are comparable ones out there. Jughead's RY4 is quite different......a more bitter and coffee-like finish to it.... I like it even more.
Never tried it, but I saw in the vendor reviews(negative) where the BWB vendor lost his marbles at someone and made that announcement because he is tired of trying to restrict people to a single order and people trying to get around that ... apparently his product is good, but he doesn't always play well with the people trying to give him money.
He's not discontinuing them because they are in high demand. The issue as I understand it is a problem with his suppliers and being able to keep the ingredients in stock for it. His liquids are complex and high quality and sometimes it's difficult to source the components of a particular flavor, as is the case with the RY4 and EJoker.
Putting the sales limit on them in order to give everyone a chance to get some when he is able to make it has caused a lot of problems for him as a lot of people want to bend the rules. The amount of time he's spending trying to placate his customers is becoming counter productive to the business in general.
That's at least what I've put together from what I've read about it.
I'm in the same boat. I have 30 mils of each steeping three days now. Still haven't tried them yet.
I've been ordering from BWB for a year now and he has top notch customer service and juice. That's why he has such a following. Not because he busts his balls to make mediocre crap so that everyone can buy it. You pretty much nailed the whole reason for discontinuing them ctourtelot.
In my opinion his move to discontinue them was the best solution to this ......ed problem. He'll be releasing new flavors sometime down the road to hopefully compare to these 2 that are history. I was lucky enough to try out a bottle of RY4 and yes it was great, especially after it steeped for a month. Never tried the ejoker, but its not the end of the world for me.
For those of you who have RY4 or ejoker - enjoy! You are vaping a historical BWB juice now
In my opinion his move to discontinue them was the best solution to this ......ed problem. He'll be releasing new flavors sometime down the road to hopefully compare to these 2 that are history. I was lucky enough to try out a bottle of RY4 and yes it was great, especially after it steeped for a month. Never tried the ejoker, but its not the end of the world for me.
For those of you who have RY4 or ejoker - enjoy! You are vaping a historical BWB juice now
Don is a nice guy, but he would lost a bit of his temper when he is under stress. I can't say the reason why he will act like that due to his personal reason. But, i hope you guys can understand him. Give him some space and be patient of the waiting process.
I don't understand it either. I just can't think of any business decision as ridiculous as this. I don't think I'll even consider being the bearer of this silly news.
Why not just treat it as any other product and say, "this product will be out of stock indefinitely" or something. It's as if the ingredients are imported from some alien planet or something.
He stopped making it because the supplier of flavorings that went into both RY4 and ejoker juices couldn't keep up with his demand to keep up with BWB customers demands. Why can so few people see that? It was a no win situation. He tried to make it fair by offering only 1 bottle available to each buyer but ended up having problems with people getting greedy or whining if they missed out. How can anyone keep their sanity in that type of situation?
Personally I couldn't agree more with his decision to just give up and have the whole headache of selling hard-to-make-available-to-all juices not available....ever....period. I will definitely miss not being able to buy RY4 anymore, but there are plenty of other BWB flavors I like. I didn't get in on the frenzy that happened after he re-opened his sight and I'm glad I stepped aside and avoid the madness that some people allow themselves to get to.
From what I've read of other peoples posts in this thread there are some other fine vendors right here in Canada that make RY4 that find it even better than BWB version - so no problems then, right?
Personally I couldn't agree more with his decision to just give up and have the whole headache of selling hard-to-make-available-to-all juices not available....ever....period. I will definitely miss not being able to buy RY4 anymore, but there are plenty of other BWB flavors I like. I didn't get in on the frenzy that happened after he re-opened his sight and I'm glad I stepped aside and avoid the madness that some people allow themselves to get to.
From what I've read of other peoples posts in this thread there are some other fine vendors right here in Canada that make RY4 that find it even better than BWB version - so no problems then, right?
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