Thinking about a chuck

[AmyB66]

wow cainne, do you have an issue with all 6v or just a chuck issue? just curious because as far as value goes...for the money and being able to vape at 2 different volts...the chuck beats all others. i mean, yeah the ego or tornado are great for the 3.7 experience/batt life, but if you want a 6v, personally, i think the chuck is the way to go. custom graphics along with the customer service. no comparison.

p.s. my chucks rock...markimar, you will not be disappointed.

Well, maybe it is just a size issue?

As in not everyone wants a big ol mod. My recent chuck is just a plain illusion color....real purty...but, if you went with something like that and not custom graphics, worse case you could turn around and sell it to someone who didn't want to wait for one so nothing lost of you didn't like it Markimar.

I don't bad mouth any other mods because I have not tried them, figure to each their own. I will happily back up the ones I have. I've bought FIVE from Jeff for my husband and myself. I am old school business, it is how I run our family business and I recognize that Jeff is the same. I like knowing should I ever Have a problem, the dude who made them himself, not just retailed them to me, will take care of any problem in a heartbeat. From the other chuckleheads, he not only fixes the problem, he goes above and beyone to do so.

 

[satb813]

heheh...size issue... seriously tho, that's why i love jeff so much. he's helped me so much with all 3 of my chucks. he's patient and so understanding and i will ALWAYS be back. and...i still want a thagbuilt shirt!!! but, that needs to be on another post, sorry.

 

[AmyB66]

...i still want a thagbuilt shirt!!! but, that needs to be on another post, sorry.

Well git yourself over to the correct tree and start barking.

 

[cainne]

I may miss on occasion obviously but I try to be as accurate as possible even if it doesn't help my argument.

I've just found that there's a push for more voltage/battery duration without many people necessarily pausing to ask what the optimal is both in general and personally for them, and how much they need since more isn't always going to be better. That's all.

 

[satb813]

Well git yourself over to the correct tree and start barking.

yup...need to...

 

[Poeia]

I've just found that there's a push for more voltage/battery duration without many people necessarily pausing to ask what the optimal is both in general and personally for them, and how much they need since more isn't always going to be better. That's all.

And yet the majority of Chuck owners who participated in a poll, usually vape at 3.7V. How odd.

 

[satb813]

And yet the majority of Chuck owners who participated in a poll, usually vape at 3.7V. How odd.

heheh poeia...so true!! don't mean to laugh, but i do prefer the 3.7. really. even on my big, that's what i def like more. occasionally i'll put a couple of cr123"s for friends to try, but, i basically vape at 3.7. thank you.

 

[notsoogood]

And yet the majority of Chuck owners who participated in a poll, usually vape at 3.7V. How odd.

You go girl!!!

 

[markimar]

Yeah I saw that poll interesting that most folks vape at 3.7v. So why spend the money if your not using it for higher voltage ? I'd rather find a reasonable priced 5v I think 6 would be too much.

 

[Poeia]

I'm not interested in 5V or 6V vaping. I bought a Little Chuck (which only does 3.7) because a) it's beautiful and b) my 18350 batteries have a 1,200 mAh. (I also have high-discharge LiMN ones with 550 mAh.) Not as good as the 18650s but I rarely have to change them more than once a day.

 

[MacDiver]

I had too thought that the 510 was 3.7 but it really is 3.1 until I read some explainations on the forums.

Here is some good info I saved on voltages and resistance having to do with batts and attys:

By Drozd, Ultra Member

Ohms law is Wattage = Voltage (squared)/ resistance... so it becomes a bit of a tightrope walk for optimal performance.. the higher the wattage the more heat is produced which translates into more vapor and usually better flavor...you hear alot of people talking about the 5V "sweet spot"... what they're really talking about is wattage being somewhere in the 8-10 watt range.. so lets take a standard joye atty (2.3 Ohm resistance)on a stock 510 battery (3.1V) ...W= 3.12/ 2.3...W= 4.18
Now the knock off (3.2Ohm) on stock 510 battery ... W=3.12 /3.2 ....W= 3...so weaker

Some places are selling these knock offs as high resistance now too..because people were unhappy with them on stock batteries buecause they were weak and leaky but performed better than standard at 6V (ie didn't burn out so fast or taste quite as burnt)
now on a 3.7V mod (or on say a KR8 battery that is a true 3.7V) those numbers change to 5.95 and 4.28 respectively...

At 5V.. 10.87W and 7.81W respectively..And at 6V...15.65W and 11.25W...so at 6V yeah the knock of is better because it gets a less burt taste and would last longer without burning out..but then an 801 (10.29W), 901 (9.73W), or a HV 510 (4.5ohm resistance) (8.00W) would run even better...

Last I checked the 510 comes in 5 different resistance now so you can kinda finagle battery and atty for your "sweet spot"... 1.68, 2.3 (standard joye), 3.2 (knock off), 4.5, and 5.2

And Scottbee's multimeter tests of batts:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/joye-510/65055-battery-voltages-surprise.html

Hope this helps

 

[spaky]

I don't understand why people keep wanting to use watts. Current is what creates heat. Heat is what vaporizes the liquid. There is a reason why all the circuit breakers and fuses in your home are rated in amps. There is also a reason why wire has an amperage limit, not a wattage limit, according to the National Electrical Code.

 

[chainvapor]

I don't understand why people keep wanting to use watts. Current is what creates heat. Heat is what vaporizes the liquid. There is a reason why all the circuit breakers and fuses in your home are rated in amps. There is also a reason why wire has an amperage limit, not a wattage limit, according to the National Electrical Code.

You are talking about AC current. We are using DC current. Apples and Oranges. Amperage with all of these DC batts is in Milliamps so it is a small issue compared to watts. While it is still important, it is usually similar with all Lithium Batteries, so wattage becomes the greatest factor in performance IMHO. However, I can tell you that the standard 510 battery from Joye puts out better vapor for me than a 18650 battery on my MOD. Only lasts 30 minutes, but when both are freshly charged the Joye510 batt wins hand down. I know people are going to flame me for this, but I have used an Ultrafire 3000Mah, and Ultrafire 2400Mah and an AW18650 2200Mah and the AW is the closest to the 510, but still not quite there. My guess is the 510 may not last long (180Mah) but it probably puts out a few more Milliamps so therefore, better vapor! So Milliamps DO PLAY A FACTOR, but a smaller factor than wattage for the purpose we are using them for.

CV

 

[BababooeyHTJ]

I don't understand why people keep wanting to use watts. Current is what creates heat. Heat is what vaporizes the liquid. There is a reason why all the circuit breakers and fuses in your home are rated in amps. There is also a reason why wire has an amperage limit, not a wattage limit, according to the National Electrical Code.

voltage/resistance=amperage

 

[spaky]

You are talking about AC current. We are using DC current. Apples and Oranges. Amperage with all of these DC batts is in Milliamps so it is a small issue compared to watts. While it is still important, it is usually similar with all Lithium Batteries, so wattage becomes the greatest factor in performance IMHO. However, I can tell you that the standard 510 battery from Joye puts out better vapor for me than a 18650 battery on my MOD. Only lasts 30 minutes, but when both are freshly charged the Joye510 batt wins hand down. I know people are going to flame me for this, but I have used an Ultrafire 3000Mah, and Ultrafire 2400Mah and an AW18650 2200Mah and the AW is the closest to the 510, but still not quite there. My guess is the 510 may not last long (180Mah) but it probably puts out a few more Milliamps so therefore, better vapor! So Milliamps DO PLAY A FACTOR, but a smaller factor than wattage for the purpose we are using them for.

CV

Not sure where to start here. Most people know just enough about electricity to hurt themselves. An amp is an amp. It doesn't matter if it's AC or DC. Also we aren't dealing with milliamps, but with full amps and tenths of amps. You don't know it, but your argument is against yourself in that paragraph. a fully charged 18650 will put out a little over 4 volts, while a 510 battery will put out at most 3.7 volts. The resistance of the atty is the same, so the higher voltage will have a higher current draw and wattage. People need to realize that you can't measure watts, but have to calculate them. You can actually measure current. Which do you think matters more?

 

[BababooeyHTJ]

Not sure where to start here. Most people know just enough about electricity to hurt themselves. An amp is an amp. It doesn't matter if it's AC or DC. Also we aren't dealing with milliamps, but with full amps and tenths of amps. You don't know it, but your argument is against yourself in that paragraph. a fully charged 18650 will put out a little over 4 volts, while a 510 battery will put out at most 3.7 volts. The resistance of the atty is the same, so the higher voltage will have a higher current draw and wattage. People need to realize that you can't measure watts, but have to calculate them. You can actually measure current. Which do you think matters more?

Do you really think that a standard joye batt can supply the same consistent current as an 18650? Why do you think that the vapor drops off so fast on these e-cig batts? My single 14500 box mod sees a drop off in vapor after about an hour or two while my parallel 14500 box mod puts out a consistent vapor until the batterys are about dead.

You can always measure wattage, btw. It's just voltage multiplied by amperage. You may want to google Ohm's Law.

 

[cainne]

Ok, I'm a nerd myself but I HAVE to post this, ESPECIALLY once Ohm's Law was mentioned:

From: http://xkcd.com/356/

 

[Poeia]

It's amazing. As soon as I see Ohms and amps, my eyes glaze over and I know exactly what poor Domino feels every time I explain how to average the nicotine concentration. Anything longer than 2 sentences and it's

 

[AmyB66]

lol Poeia. I just slap on a carto and put in the batteries that were okay'd and thumbs up by all the folks who know batts, especially Drozd and leave it at that. It vapes good, I am as safe as it gets, all is well in my world. I decided a ways back to not even tax my over taxed brain about it any more!

 

[Poeia]

lol Poeia. I just slap on a carto and put in the batteries that were okay'd and thumbs up by all the folks who know batts, especially Drozd and leave it at that. It vapes good, I am as safe as it gets, all is well in my world. I decided a ways back to not even tax my over taxed brain about it any more!

That plus low resistance batteries are for low voltage batteries. High resistance is for high voltage.

And "never use unprotected batteries."

That pretty well covers it as far as I'm concerned.