thinking about making the switch to vv/vw mods

[mchaggis79]

I currently use mechanical mods. I currently have a stingray x and a colonial mod. However it gets kind of old how the throat hit, vapor production, and everything goes down rather quickly as the battery dies so I'm thinking of getting a vv/vw mod. My problem though is I don't know much about them.

I'm nervous cause I'm clumsy as sin and the idea of dropping one seems about as appealing as dropping an apple product. So I'd like to know more about them. What should I do differently with them vs a mech mod, will the throat hit and vapor production be better, should I be scared ****less at the idea of dropping one? What kind of maintenance is needed?

At the end of the day I just want something that just works.

Side note: I love a fluid that gives a good throat hit without only making puny clouds, or great clouds with weak throat hit and really muted flavor. I make my own fluid and can't seem to find my nirvana vape lol.

 

[scylla]

Looks like you have been at this game about as long as I have been. Like you, I have always used mechs and let me tell you, a whole new level of vaping will open up for you with a regulated mod. A real sense of power and a lot more flexibility it seems to me.

I really love how my mechs are bullet proof reliable, but, so far no problems with my Sigelei. It hasn't given me a bit of trouble, plus the safety factor sets my mind at ease.
Just make sure you use top quality batteries and I think you will really dig a regulated mod. You could also tweak your volts/watts to bring out flavors/clouds in your diy juice that a mech doesn't show.

 

[froginblender]

I use an istick myself the 20 watt version.
I use aspire - es tank or silo tank with Aspire BVC coils at 1.5 ohms.
usually vape at 5.1 volts myself..and i get tons of flavor and vapor.

You can get
clopour mini 30w box mod.
istick 30 watt or 20 watt.
My istick lasts about a day 1/2 before having to recharge it...and it doubles as a passthru while it's charging.

here's mine:
(im on right side blowing cloud)


device itself takin the sunset in...lol.

 

[sedition]

I was in your position a month back, getting sick of having to swap batteries 5-6 times a day to stay in that sweet spot. It gets really old after a while. I built a box mod with the DNA40 and found I was easily going up to 40 watts, and not really getting any benefit from temp protection since I don't get dry hits in my RDA. So I ended up settling on the Sigelei 150w - more power than I'll ever need, fires nice and quick, dual 18650 for no less than a full day vaping. The IPV3 is one of the main 'mainstream' competitors to the Sigelei - I liked the IPV's looks a little more, but the redundant button on the top was a dealbreaker for me. That said, the Sigelei looks much nicer in the flesh (or aluminium, as it were) than any photos online. I haven't dropped it yet, but it seems well built. It's also much nicer in the pocket.

The main upside to VW aside from everything above, is flexibility. When you're using a mech, you have to build the coil up or down to your preference, you're kinda limited to the specs of the battery. Whereas with VW, you build the coil you want, and adjust the wattage to match. If you want to explore using more wraps for more surface area, you can just ramp up (or down) the wattage on the fly. That opens up lots of possibilities.

 

[herb]

You don't want to drop any mod as anything has the potential to break , as far as bulletproof , the only thing i use where i am not going to be around a charging source and i need it to last close to THREE days of non stop vaping are the Innokin MVP's.

I have dropped these on concrete floors more times than i can count and it' just keeps going and going , the best thing about them is the super high quality signal they produce though , as good of a vape as you will find , they blow my other mods away in vape quality. The 20 watt is incredible.

 

[Croak]

I currently use mechanical mods. I currently have a stingray x and a colonial mod. However it gets kind of old how the throat hit, vapor production, and everything goes down rather quickly as the battery dies so I'm thinking of getting a vv/vw mod. My problem though is I don't know much about them.

I'm nervous cause I'm clumsy as sin and the idea of dropping one seems about as appealing as dropping an apple product. So I'd like to know more about them. What should I do differently with them vs a mech mod, will the throat hit and vapor production be better, should I be scared ****less at the idea of dropping one? What kind of maintenance is needed?

At the end of the day I just want something that just works.

Side note: I love a fluid that gives a good throat hit without only making puny clouds, or great clouds with weak throat hit and really muted flavor. I make my own fluid and can't seem to find my nirvana vape lol.

What sort of toppers are you using? RDA? RTA? Clearo? If you're using a rebuildable, what sort of build? Knowing what you use, we'll be able to give you better suggestions, because power levels vary from less than 10w all the way up to 250w (and counting).

As for maintenance, it's usually just a matter of keeping the 510 connection clean and charging batteries, no different from your mechs. Modern regulated mods are pretty durable, and while I'd cringe at the thought of dropping a $300 aluminum art piece like a Vaporflask on concrete, dropping a $40 Chinese unit, not so much.

 

[v1k1ng1001]

To be honest, I'm more scared to drop my mechs because the metal/threads can get really messed up. You don't want to make habit of it, but your vv device will survive most drops no problem.

Take a look at the Sigelei boxes, they're really well made. Vaporshark rdna is also well made if you have some extra cash to spend.

 

[mchaggis79]

What sort of toppers are you using? RDA? RTA? Clearo? If you're using a rebuildable, what sort of build? Knowing what you use, we'll be able to give you better suggestions, because power levels vary from less than 10w all the way up to 250w (and counting).

As for maintenance, it's usually just a matter of keeping the 510 connection clean and charging batteries, no different from your mechs. Modern regulated mods are pretty durable, and while I'd cringe at the thought of dropping a $300 aluminum art piece like a Vaporflask on concrete, dropping a $40 Chinese unit, not so much.

I currently have a Magma, marquis, and a plume veil. I almost always run dual coils and usually aim for. 7 to .8 ohms.

 

[BababooeyHTJ]

I've dropped my cheap clone dna 30 a bunch of times. Still works fine. 510 threads are a little messed up now though. Well, one of them really.

 

[Croak]

If you don't want to change your builds, I'd say you'd be happiest with a 50w or higher mod.

The iStick 50w, which should go on sale today, would fit the bill nicely for you. 4400mAh battery, around a $50 price tag, compact and comfortable, and it's just about ideal for your 0.8-ish builds, and can even push a 0.2 ohm build (with the caveat that a build that low won't get a lot of voltage). It's also pretty well made for the money, and durable enough and cheap enough that you shouldn't have to worry about abusing it. Downside is the batteries are sealed, and it takes 5 hours to charge from empty.

If you need replaceable batteries, I'd say step up in price and get the Sigelei 100w or the IPV 3 or 4, which gives you dual 18650s and up to twice the wattage, in fairly durable housings and with a proven and accurate chipset.

I'd completely skip the 30w devices if you're seriously into dual coil drippers, especially the single battery units.

I can run a Marquis clone on a 30w DNA 30 device, but when I do that, I like to build it single coil at around 1.5 ohms (28ga, 3.5mm ID coil, 7 wraps), probably the same as your dual coil setups, just one less coil. That's a really good vape, giving me the ability to go as high as 7 volts at 30w (I generally like it around 20-25w/5.5v-6.5v depending on juice), but it's harder than hell on a single 18650, I need to swap batteries a lot.

Dual sub-ohm coils in an RDA don't work well in a 30w DNA 30 type mod, IMHO, because even though the devices will fire down to 0.5 ohms, even at 30w it's simply not able to supply a lot of voltage with a load that low, so it's not a very good vape, about the same as a mech with a weak battery.

And of course, an Innokin MVP (any version) would be useless as mammary glands on a male hog to you, despite being a well built durable device with a lot of battery life, it just doesn't have the power output you'd be happy with and/or can't handle a sub-ohm load depending on version.

 

[mchaggis79]

That was really informational and really helpful. thanks a lot. I just tried my buddy's ipv3 at 35w real quick and holy crap did it kick like a mule. Great throat hit and clouds. I love my throat hit and flavor, but it seems like when I try to make things better in those 2 departments my clouds suffer only making puny little things On my mech. I loved it, but I have no desire for dropping that kind of cash for one... which makes me sad lol.

 

[Croak]

Like I said, the iStick 50w would work well for you. A 40w or 50w Vaporflask clone would also do you well, with a modest increase in size and weight, but with the ability to swap out 18650s...those can be had for as low as $50-$60 if you're willing to wait for them to ship direct from China.

 

[mchaggis79]

From fastcrap I take it? I won't deal with them. Tried a few times in the past and they're way too much of a headache to ever deal with again. everything I've gotten from them has either been damaged right from the get go, defective, or missing stuff.

 

[Croak]

3FVape.com has them, Focal has them, and more than a few US resellers will have them in the next few weeks at a higher markup. Should start seeing them at reasonable prices from US Ebay sellers by mid-March as well.

 

[v1k1ng1001]

The sigelei 50w is on sale for $59 shipped over at cloudscape which is a steal and has the same board as the ipv3.

 

[BababooeyHTJ]

The sigelei 50w is on sale for $59 shipped over at cloudscape which is a steal and has the same board as the ipv3.

Thanks, I picked one up

 

[v1k1ng1001]

Thanks, I picked one up

Right on! Me too! Price is too good to pass on.

 

[mchaggis79]

Can it be upgraded to hold 2 batteries? I don't know if only 1 battery can last me all day Cause I vape around 10 ml a day. Granted I suppose with the swivel back it wouldn't be too hard to swap batteries like I do with my mechs.

 

[mchaggis79]

I'm also debating on getting a kayfun v4. How do rbta's fare with vw mods? I feel like with a box mod I'll burn through juice a lot quicker than with my mechs and of the 3 RDAs I have my magma holds the most (right around 25 drops without flooding) and I think it will get old quick having to re-drip every couple of hits.

 

[Croak]

I'm also debating on getting a kayfun v4. How do rbta's fare with vw mods? I feel like with a box mod I'll burn through juice a lot quicker than with my mechs and of the 3 RDAs I have my magma holds the most (right around 25 drops without flooding) and I think it will get old quick having to re-drip every couple of hits.

Dude, nothing is forcing you to run a regulated at a higher power than what you're used to in your mechs, it's simply an option.

That said, a Kayfun-style RTA will still sip juice compared to a RDA, since the preferred builds for those rarely go over 15w, often much lower. Just doesn't have the airflow to support massive juice consumption per hit. Even stepping up to a more airy RTA (like the Lemo, the various sub-ohm clearos like the Atlantis or Subtank, etc) is usually easier on juice than a "typical" RDA built below 0.5 ohms. Those airy low ohm capable tanks don't have the built-in slowdown of having to stop and drip so it makes it easier to chain vape through a lot of juice though.