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[TexasT]

My thoughts exactly Salem! It's pretty sad when you have to spend so much time in grocery stores reading labels for fear of what you are feeding your family. It's just not right.

Even reading labels on food can be misleading Tracy. They have become so clever at disguising the ingredients names that unless you are a chemical engineer your not going to know what that thirty five letter word actually means.

Its very frustrating if one is really attempting to eat healthy.

TT

 

[TexasT]

Tracy, hoping for the best for Bo.

I've thought about WTA, but it's too pricey for me. I'm doing better, but still not completely quit. At night I'm fine and vaping satisfies me, but during the day is really tough. At least the RYO that I bought is WAY cheaper, and makes me have to stop and think whether I really want to have that stinkie.

Okay, I surrender.

What is WTA and RYO?

Its a PITA being old and not knowing all these WTH codes.

TT

 

[markfm]

RYO = roll your own cigarette
WTA = whole tobacco alkaloids. It's something Aroma makes, instead of just nicotine they do their own extraction starting from the tobacco leaves, it picks up a few more chemicals from the tobacco. Supposedly it can provide a bit more of a cig-like calming effect.
For some, just nic doesn't quite cut it, so they supplement with either WTA or snus (the fancy Swedish stuff, not the same as classic american chewing tobacco -- snus is much healthier).

I'm a mutt, and vaping nicotine alone is fine for me. I'm going to make some WTA DIY just for fun. I was thinking some high test, perhaps 30 mg/ml, tobacco, but probably also do some lower mg mix, open to suggestions. Probably split it into 10ml bottles to pass around.

Apparently the unflavored WTA is effective at about 25% in a mix, and at least some people use it just as a supplement, those couple of "gotta smoke" times in a day, vape normal nic eliquid the rest of the time.

 

[Bovinia]

Like Mark said about the RYO...you buy "pipe" tobacco at the tobacco shops, the empty filtered paper tubes and a little stuffing machine. It brings the cost of a pack of smokes down to about a dollar or 2 instead of the $8 a pack they are here. Hubby is smoking full time and I made him go the RYO route. I'm smoking maybe 5 a day.

 

[908Tracy]

Even reading labels on food can be misleading Tracy. They have become so clever at disguising the ingredients names that unless you are a chemical engineer your not going to know what that thirty five letter word actually means.

Its very frustrating if one is really attempting to eat healthy.

TT

You're so right TT !

 

[908Tracy]

I RYO'ed for a couple of years that exact way. Would watch TV before bed and make enough for the next day. Did that each and every night. Way less expensive!!!

Bo never quite took to vaping the way that I did. My BP rarely leaves my hand, and when it does, aside from when I'm sleeping, it's never longer than a couple of minutes. What astounded me was that he gave it all up, only vaped for maybe a month and was done with it all, except an occasional hit off of mine. So his relapse really shook me.

 

[TexasT]

Wow, thanks for all the information guys!

Mark, the WTA DIY jooce sounds like it ought to be a really good jooce. Let us know how you like it. That's interesting!

Bov, that Royale Solo Roller is quite a gizzy! Back years ago we used to take a flat paper, dump some tobacco in it, roll it, and lick the glue to seal the paper.

In May it will be three years without a cigarette for me and I still say that vaping was the best thing that ever happened.

TT

 

[FranC]

3 years for me in June and July for hubby.

 

[kgj]

I'm so sorry, Fran. He and you are in my prayers.

Tragedy has stuck our family again in a really bad way. My 1 1/2 month old great grandson died this morning. Cause of death hasn't been determined between crib death or suffocation in bed.

 

[FranC]

Thank you kgj. I'm waiting to here of funeral arrangements. The bad thing about winter deaths here is most cemeteries won't bury til Spring and it's horrible to go thru it a second time.

 

[5cardstud]

With all the preservatives they put in food they're having problems after were dead and gone too. That tells you what we're eating isn't good. But wth I like my flammin hot cheetos.

 

[Sdh]

hey Bovina! I have something like this....don't know if it still works but if you want to try it I will send it to you within the next few weeks. I have to find it first.
http://www.cigarettemachinerolling....r-machine_280779338872_US_GamblerRolling.html

It worked fine but has been sitting for 3 years. I never did get the hang of RYO.

 

[5cardstud]

hey Bovina! I have something like this....don't know if it still works but if you want to try it I will send it to you within the next few weeks. I have to find it first.
http://www.cigarettemachinerolling....r-machine_280779338872_US_GamblerRolling.html

It worked fine but has been sitting for 3 years. I never did get the hang of RYO.

They really have some cool rolling machines. I didn't know they made them that fancy.

 

[chimney55]

Fran, I'm so sorry to hear about your loss! I'll be praying for your family, your granddaughter, her husband et al.

 

[Sdh]

They really have some cool rolling machines. I didn't know they made them that fancy.

LOL I could never get the hang of it. I did roll about a cartons worth and figured it was "real work".

 

[FranC]

Heard from my daughter. Wake,funeral service and afterward gathering will be Thursday morning. The baby won't be buried til Spring. That really sucks. My granddaughter and her husband are moving cause they don't want to live where the baby died. Death ruled as SIDS.

 

[Dan Patrick]

Hey guys I have a wanted add up, I am looking for a Green Buzz Pro. Also if anyone has a chrome all metal cap they would be willing to part with that would be awesome. Matching M1A1 tank...let me know! EFC version or regular, not really picky...except for the green. I could trade a silver with brass all metal caps that i have on the way.

 

[908Tracy]

Heard from my daughter. Wake,funeral service and afterward gathering will be Thursday morning. The baby won't be buried til Spring. That really sucks. My granddaughter and her husband are moving cause they want to live where the baby died. Death ruled as SIDS.

My thoughts and prayers are with you sweetie. I hope you can feel all of our hugs and love around you when you need it most.

 

[908Tracy]

Hey guys I have a wanted add up, I am looking for a Green Buzz Pro. Also if anyone has a chrome all metal cap they would be willing to part with that would be awesome. Matching M1A1 tank...let me know! EFC version or regular, not really picky...except for the green. I could trade a silver with brass all metal caps that i have on the way.

I hope you find your green BP Dan. Mine are mostly purple and black. Sorry!

 

[Sdh]

Heard from my daughter. Wake,funeral service and afterward gathering will be Thursday morning. The baby won't be buried til Spring. That really sucks. My granddaughter and her husband are moving cause they want to live where the baby died. Death ruled as SIDS.

Thoughts and special prayers sent your way to you and your family!