Being a Gulf War vet '91, I have a right to distrust them and be part of the nut job club
Amen to that, I joined the force in 94' and thats how I learned to distrust my own gov
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Amen to that, I joined the force in 94' and thats how I learned to distrust my own gov
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Leviathan Smiles.
Even happily let us baste and prep ourselves for dinner by removing any material asset from our currency.
But yeah slightly bigger topic, just buy a mandarin primer and be ready for it.
When the swine flu epidemic hit a couple of years ago, health authorities lead us to believe that without the vaccine, you were at great risk....even 'deadly' risk. They encouraged everyone and their dog to get the vaccine...then, they didn't have enough vaccine to go around, so, they began to ration their supply by allowing only health care professionals and 'highest risk' individuals to receive the vaccine first. It was crazy!!! People were lined up for hours before designated clinics even opened in order to receive the vaccine only to be turned away because demand exceeded supply. I opted to forgo the 'free clinic' offers for myself and my 4 kids. Guess what? We survived with our immune systems intact.
Fewer people died from that "pandemic" than from annual influenza.
I think the scare was another brain child of the brilliant WHO (the ones who originally decided that all ecigs have to be classified as unproven medical NRT's).
lol @ anti-vaccination people.
Yeah, you probably won't die if you don't get the flu vaccine. Even if you get the flu, most of us here would easily survive it. But, what about the other people you infect? What about the old lady standing in front of you in line at the grocery store when you are just starting to get symptoms? Will she be lucky enough to survive, or are you going to be the one to infect her with the virus that kills her? Vaccines don't just exist to keep you healthy, they exist to keep the population healthy by reducing risk. How would you feel if you gave the old woman the disease that kills her because you were too selfish to get a flu vaccine? What if she infects the rest of the retirement home she lives at?
The issue is you don't know how far-reaching the effects of you not getting vaccinated are.
Relevant Penn and Teller Bull.... Episode: (NSFW due to language)
Yeah, you probably won't die if you don't get the flu vaccine. Even if you get the flu, most of us here would easily survive it. But, what about the other people you infect? What about the old lady standing in front of you in line at the grocery store when you are just starting to get symptoms? Will she be lucky enough to survive, or are you going to be the one to infect her with the virus that kills her? Vaccines don't just exist to keep you healthy, they exist to keep the population healthy by reducing risk. How would you feel if you gave the old woman the disease that kills her because you were too selfish to get a flu vaccine? What if she infects the rest of the retirement home she lives at?
The issue is you don't know how far-reaching the effects of you not getting vaccinated are.
Relevant Penn and Teller Bull.... Episode: (NSFW due to language)
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Pretty sure big pharma uses actual lab rats.
Does buying cupcake mix make you Betty Crocker's lab rat?
So, if I understand correctly, your saying that people need to get vaccinated in order to save other peoples lives? You can't put that type of pressure on people, your basically saying that a non vaccinated person is responsible for another non vaccinated persons death. In you example, it would be the old lady in the grocery store responsibility to get herself vaccinated.
Honestly I'm sorry if I become a disease carrier and risk to infect other human being, but I firmly believe that it's a personal choice, and call me selfish for it; i dont really give a flying duck about it
And being a Canadian Force Veteran, I also know that our governement doesnt care much for the safety of there people as much as they care about the money the lobby hands them out to encourage there very profitable business.
/end of rant
Okay, forget the elderly woman - what about the children of the anti-vaccination nut who refuses to let her kids have vaccines? What if your virus infects and kills one of them? I'm just saying that there's a certain level of social responsibility involved that usually doesn't get taken into account.
That's an argument for her to get vaccinated. Not me. I don't subscribe to any conspiracy theories regarding vaccines, but seriously, I'd rather just get the flu and get my immunity that way.
People in Health care should be vaccinated for the benefit of those they treat, yes... but vaccinating everyone does little more than reduce sick days, compared to vaccinating only those in poor health or susceptible to illness.
Like I said in my last post, that's all fine and dandy except for the poor kids whose parents won't allow them to get vaccinated. They don't get the option to choose whether or not you get them sick. The old lady was a poor example.
Well, I suppose if I am that old lady at the grocery store who is *at risk*, then I guess the onus is on ME to get MYSELF vaccinated or, at the very least, to ensure standard precautionary measures (frequent hand-washing, keeping my hands out of my mouth and other mucous membranes, etc.) for myself.
I am just an American nobody really, i was one of those" terrible" parents that chose not to vac. my own children in the days when there was little on the subject, they grew to be healthy adults & now they make their life decisions for my grandchildren & there is alot more info. on the subject, so i am one to prefer a choice in such important life issues for all involved.
You're absolutely right, they don't get the option to choose. However, they have parents who are entrusted with the responsibility of keeping them safe -- would that responsibility include *blindly* trusting BP that vaccines carry no risk? Damned if you do, damned if you don't, however, living in a democracy affords us the luxury (or at least is supposed to) of making our own choices.
Well you raise an interesting point that in my opinion says more about the obligation of parents than of everyone else. It's almost like saying I should get vaccinated to respect the religious or private beliefs of others. That because of a minority, the majority is under a social obligation. It just doesn't sit well with me, and has implications that go well beyond vaccines. I'd sooner see tougher child care laws.
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