threw away 3 boge cartos from flooding and gurgeling

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Yes. Trial and error for now. Let the screw touch the carto and then count how many times you turn to make a small hole. Also check to be sure that you've gone all the way through the outside wall of the carto. Use a needle to be sure the fuller is exposed and that the juice will feed into it. For a small hole I suggest a second hole on the other side of the carto. If you decide to go with one hole and you have trouble getting it to feed, a neat trick is to give the e-cig a few good hard draws without pressing the firing button. That will draw juice into the carto.

Now I see why they call you, "Super Member".

Thanks for the valuable tip.
 

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Could just be a thick juice. It's only 60% vg. But some higher vg liquids won't wick right so it just sits in the bottom of the carto and gurgles.

Your posts brings up a question I've been meaning to ask. Where's the best place to punch a carto? Pre-punched cartos I've purchased are punched midway. Yet, I've seen videos demonstrations with holes punched near the bottom or closer to the thread.
 

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are you sure it's your cartos and not your tank? I just use a hammer and screw to punch mine and the only time I ever had a problem with flooding was when my tank had a break in the seal somewhere. If air can get into the tank (as you vape) from the outside, it will create too much air pressure inside the tank and force the juice through the punched hole and out the bottom. My holes look just like yours. Tanks are funny... they will mess with you until they get tired of it and then they'll "let" you win. I started out with the grommet style tanks (chibi.. mini sub) and you'd think that since those grommets hold the carto in a death grip that there would be no air leaks.. WRONG! I would vape in front of a 10x mirror and see the air bubbles coming in the tanks from breaks in the seals around the grommets. I switched to the cheap dctanks and haven't had one instance of flooding in months. I used to drill fill holes in my tanks but noticed that if that screw wasn't tight, air could get in around the screw (and cause the carto to flood). the subtanks from momandpopvaporshop have nice fill holes in the side with thrumb screws in them.

Anyway, through I'd throw out my experience.

You can see the screw on the side of my tank in my avatar pic <------ (ok.. the only reason I was using a tank on the VV reo was the finish smell was still pretty harsh on the inside so I had to use it as a top feeder for awhile LOL)
 
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are you sure it's your cartos and not your tank? I just use a hammer and screw to punch mine and the only time I ever had a problem with flooding was when my tank had a break in the seal somewhere. If air can get into the tank (as you vape) from the outside, it will create too much air pressure inside the tank and force the juice through the punched hole and out the bottom. My holes look just like yours. Tanks are funny... they will mess with you until they get tired of it and then they'll "let" you win. I started out with the grommet style tanks (chibi.. mini sub) and you'd think that since those grommets hold the carto in a death grip that there would be no air leaks.. WRONG! I would vape in front of a 10x mirror and see the air bubbles coming in the tanks from breaks in the seals around the grommets. I switched to the cheap dctanks and haven't had one instance of flooding in months. I used to drill fill holes in my tanks but noticed that if that screw wasn't tight, air could get in around the screw (and cause the carto to flood). the subtanks from momandpopvaporshop have nice fill holes in the side with thrumb screws in them.

Anyway, through I'd throw out my experience.

You can see the screw on the side of my tank in my avatar pic <------ (ok.. the only reason I was using a tank on the VV reo was the finish smell was still pretty harsh on the inside so I had to use it as a top feeder for awhile LOL)

Dude, you have no idea how great this was. I had pretty well ditched my $70 cartomator tank cause no matter what I tried the sucker flooded. Like u said, my cheap ole DCT tanks work just fine so I just went back to them. After I read this post I went and got my cartomator (with the stupid fill hole) blew some air in it and I'll be damned...juice blows out right around that screw. Took that screw out and put some thread tape on it and tightened it down good. First tank full and hasn't flooded yet. I will definitely remember this experience.
 

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are you sure it's your cartos and not your tank? I just use a hammer and screw to punch mine and the only time I ever had a problem with flooding was when my tank had a break in the seal somewhere. If air can get into the tank (as you vape) from the outside, it will create too much air pressure inside the tank and force the juice through the punched hole and out the bottom...

That's good info. Been really very satisfied with my tank performance (The Liquinator), but I can't rule out the possibility the tank may contribute to gurgling and leak issues. Haven't had a problem with my current carto...just seemed like the last 2 Boges I tried were duds...especially the one that shorted out.

Something else to consider too...a recent comment in another thread made me consider this a bit. The member mentioned that cartos weren't designed to be filled with juice 100% of the time. This sort if explains why my cartos seem to perform better as the volume of juice in the tank decreases. Seems like some air is necessary for the juice to flow properly. I've occasionally needed to unscrew the tank just enough to allow air to flow through from the bottom. Now that I think about it, my tank is usually quite full on those occasions. Now that my tank is near empty, no adjustment is required.
 

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My Liquinator and Boge carto
 

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u may be right. all of a sudden im having trouble w this new tank, the pro-v cartomator. i opted for the fill hole, and never thought about that being an issue. i have a sub tank and that thread is much tighter. im going to contact vaporfexion to see if he'll send me a new tube w no fill port.

Some thread tape fixed mine. I'm gonna just get a rubber plug and plug it permanently. If they'll send u a new tube let me know I'll jump all over that.

I emailed them too so we'll see how their CS is.
 
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Fill ports can be nice with grommet style tanks but they can let in air. It's not a problem if they seal completely when they're screwed back in but will cause flooding if they don't seal. I used to think I had to have one, to let in some air every once in a while when my carto wouldn't wick well. I spent a lot of time and money finding just the right size drill and tap and the right size screws.. I bet I've got 100 different style thrumb screws lying around :glare: But they tend to hurt more than help.

If the tank isn't "air leak" free.. then it doesn't matter how many or how few.. how large or how small the punched holes are.. it doesn't matter what viscosity your juice is.. if air can come into the tank as you vape.. the excess air pressure inside the tank will force the carto to flood every time. At least that's been my experience with tanks. Once I got the hang of the air pressure thing.. I haven't had any problems whatsoever.
 

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Fill ports can be nice with grommet style tanks but they can let in air. It's not a problem if they seal completely when they're screwed back in but will cause flooding if they don't seal. I used to think I had to have one, to let in some air every once in a while when my carto wouldn't wick well. I spent a lot of time and money finding just the right size drill and tap and the right size screws.. I bet I've got 100 different style thrumb screws lying around :glare: But they tend to hurt more than help.

If the tank isn't "air leak" free.. then it doesn't matter how many or how few.. how large or how small the punched holes are.. it doesn't matter what viscosity your juice is.. if air can come into the tank as you vape.. the excess air pressure inside the tank will force the carto to flood every time. At least that's been my experience with tanks. Once I got the hang of the air pressure thing.. I haven't had any problems whatsoever.

Absolutely. The idea of a fill port sounds convenient but it's really not. Just one more thing to go wrong. Really is it that difficult to fill a tank anyway? Slide down, fill, slide up. Vape. I'll never get another fill port on a tank.
 

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Absolutely. The idea of a fill port sounds convenient but it's really not. Just one more thing to go wrong. Really is it that difficult to fill a tank anyway? Slide down, fill, slide up. Vape. I'll never get another fill port on a tank.

If someone is using the grommets style tanks.. a fill port is VERY convenient. To fill a grommet tank, you have to use a syringe and slide it down between the grommet and the tank and there is always the possibility that the seal the grommet creates will be broken. With a grommet style tank.. it's bout near impossible to slide the carto anywhere! I'll never use another grommet style tank OR a fill port. And yep.. one more thing that can cause a problem.
 

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If someone is using the grommets style tanks.. a fill port is VERY convenient. To fill a grommet tank, you have to use a syringe and slide it down between the grommet and the tank and there is always the possibility that the seal the grommet creates will be broken. With a grommet style tank.. it's bout near impossible to slide the carto anywhere! I'll never use another grommet style tank OR a fill port. And yep.. one more thing that can cause a problem.

Ya I've never used a grommet style tank. I like my tanks but I'm finding the vivi novas to be much less trouble. Wonder if they'll make a vivi nova base and top cap compatible with regular tanks.
 
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