Throat Hit Technique

[puffpuff]

I have a SmokingEverywhere Gold (rn4081) and a TW 901.

Regardless of device, I find I get more of a throat hit when I chest inhale vs. mouth inhale, so I agree that while equipment is part, technique has a big impact.

When I'm holding my e-cig with my hand, I tend to mouth inhale. But holding my 901 in my mouth, I tend to chest inhale, since my mouth's already busy.
That's when I noticed the difference between the two techniques.

Personally, I don't notice a huge difference in holding a mouth inhale, vs. just inhaling it, though I always used to with analogs. I usually avoided throat hits when smoking analogs, but I do find them more enjoyable, or at least re-assuring with my e-cigs.

Good post, thanks for confirming what I had noticed, but found surprising since no one else had mentioned it.

 

[ShMiGgY]

I am new to teh whole vape seen. Very much loving it, My wife and i have one NPRO b/t us. we constantly fight over it (have another on the way in the mail, and another one (starter kit) we are getting for free at the truckstop this Monday by the lady who works there, which should really help things).. I was buying (and bending over for) the NPRo carts at the local truckstop. They work just fine for about an hour or so, excellent throat hits though with a lot of kick (18mg). I got some high strength "marlboro" smoke juice from puresmoker (24mg), but i can't get the same throat hit that i did with the 18mil NPRO's...

i'm finding already that there's more to it than the nic level. I also have only ever smoked by the draw into mouth, fill, then inhale it technique, even with analogs, so it's not technique entirely...

 

[Amy]

I tried that and indeed felt it helped with the throat hit. Particularly after not feeling very satisfied with the throat hit and vape. I notice when that starts to happen I end up sucking endlessly.

Incidentally, I think I have finally learned how to 'drip' properly and am finding the throat hit (and vape) from that technique much more satisfying. I have tried dropping a couple of drops of e-liquid on my atomizer, but I've always put a cartrige back on. I tried it with the piece that comes on the atomizer that you can't fill/refill with liquid and it produced a much more intense throat hit/vape and made it feel less like I was sucking a smoothie through a straw.

 

[wv2win]

I am new to teh whole vape seen. Very much loving it, My wife and i have one NPRO b/t us. we constantly fight over it (have another on the way in the mail, and another one (starter kit) we are getting for free at the truckstop this Monday by the lady who works there, which should really help things).. I was buying (and bending over for) the NPRo carts at the local truckstop. They work just fine for about an hour or so, excellent throat hits though with a lot of kick (18mg). I got some high strength "marlboro" smoke juice from puresmoker (24mg), but i can't get the same throat hit that i did with the 18mil NPRO's...

i'm finding already that there's more to it than the nic level. I also have only ever smoked by the draw into mouth, fill, then inhale it technique, even with analogs, so it's not technique entirely...

It's not technique. It's warm vaper (manual switch) and a large battery that works.

 

[dedmonwakin]

It's not technique. It's warm vaper (manual switch) and a large battery that works.

Okay, already! We get it! It only took a few more times of you insisting this to finally sink in! Geez! Your right, we're wrong!

Everyone listen up! I am glad to be your substitute teacher for the moment. Your wasting your money on buying anything but an E-cig that has a manual switch! So what ever you have invested in, is nothing more than a worthless pen casing. So throw it in the drawer!

This manual switch mod also has to have a large battery, forget the voltage which pertains to strength, just concentrate on the mAh which provides a longer life!
That is what increases the throat hit, it's basic elementary!

Everyone should know this! If you don't, wv2win has educated you and I am here to reiterate!

To those who have tried various ways to draw and noticed differences in throat hits,...you all are absolutely delusional and need to be reeducated! See wv2win if you have any further questions!

To those who feel it's the increase in nicotine content....you fall into the delusional category too! Again, see wv2win!

Class dismissed and leave your apples on his/her table on your way out, for you have been schooled!

 

[GotVape?]

dedmon - my first PV was an RN penstyle. To get the best throat hit out of it, I would take a quick 3-second puff to warm up the atomiser then instantaneously take a long drag until the battery (or USB passthrough) cuts off. This was the best way to get the most vapor (thus better throat hit) out of any device with a pressure switch. Obviously stronger nic liquid provides more kick also. With that being said, assuming that we now all agree that good vapor production is essential to a satisfying throat hit:

Let me reiterate wv2win's point in layman's terms:

more vapor = stronger throat hit

Here is the ultimate recipe for strong vapor production:

Manual switch: sealed (dripping), longer draws (no cut offs like the pressure switch), more control (enables you to pre heat atomiser before taking a draw)

Battery Capacity: provides consistent voltage (regular bats suffers from voltage drop QUICKLY)

 

[dedmonwakin]

dedmon - my first PV was an RN penstyle. To get the best throat hit out of it, I would take a quick 3-second puff to warm up the atomiser then instantaneously take a long drag until the battery (or USB passthrough) cuts off. This was the best way to get the most vapor (thus better throat hit) out of any device with a pressure switch. Obviously stronger nic liquid provides more kick also. With that being said, assuming that we now all agree that good vapor production is essential to a satisfying throat hit:

Let me reiterate wv2win's point in layman's terms:

more vapor = stronger throat hit

Here is the ultimate recipe for strong vapor production:

Manual switch: sealed (dripping), longer draws (no cut offs like the pressure switch), more control (enables you to pre heat atomiser before taking a draw)

Battery Capacity: provides consistent voltage (regular bats suffers from voltage drop QUICKLY)

I absolutely understand this beyond layman's, no need to break it down.
I won't disagree with you that those who use improvised vaporizers or manual switch vaporizers don't possibly get a better throat hit.

This subject again, that I said to wv2win a couple times already is trying to get the most with what you have. Not another alternative vaporizer than what you already have.

wv2win, states that her/his desire is to try to recommend something that will encourage newcomers to stay with vaping...when in fact, I'm doing the same thing.

The difference is, my suggestion is based on the possibility that there may be fault by way of use, rather than wv2win's constant pressing that it is always users fault in choice of device.

It is apparent that we all have different concepts of throat hits. Some like it scratchy, punchy, thick and heavy, mild and sharp...and can't forget the jalapeno spicy...there are so many different ways to get a satisfactory throat hit...it just depends on the individual.

So, again, my suggestion is that people try different draws of the vapor from the e-cig that isn't meeting up to expectations before resorting to buying another model that may indeed, not meet up to expectations, as you have proven with your technique to get a satisfactory throat hit from your pen style.

I mean, with selective preaching from people about better throat hits through manual and battery size. How exactly do you explain the many (including myself) saying the throat hit from a M401 or RN-4081 is far more intense than the bigger DSE901 and vice versa?

Bit inconsistent, wouldn't you say? Pretty safe to assume, no matter the device...we all have different experiences.

 

[dibbyb]

Yikes! I thought that the nicotine was the big difference in the throat hits, but I just tried your method with a 0 nic cartridge and DEFINITELY got a bigger throat hit than the one I had been getting, thank you very much. To the rest of you - try it, you'll like it!

 

[DaDuke]

Ok, i just tried your method and I notice a slight but definite increase in TH. I have always been a draw in mouth then inhale smoker. I didnt even think others did a lung draw. I just tried the "lunger method" and man that's a harsh throat burning way to smoke/vape and i've been smoking 1.5 per day for 30 years.

Anyway, i have some menthol crystals on the way because it said adding a very small amount adds TH. I have a feeling that the "drag, pause, inhale method will probably be stronger a TH with the menthol... we'll see.

Oh yeah, i have got to try EDOs "Hopin Jalapeno" vape

 

[Grenage]

There have been a lot of topics on throat hit, and it's a shame there isn't a single post which gets updated with the average Joe's findings. Nicotine content doesn't have much of a part to play in throat hit; liquid additives that have a 'peppery' property can help but it's not the same thing. Throat hit generally comes down to three things:

1) A freshly charged battery in good shape.
2) A decent atomiser.
3) A slow draw with a sharp intake.

With an automatic switch I always found the need to take several shorter draws before inhaling, due to the cut-off. This is obviously different for different devices, I found the Kissbox and other branded pens to be much more prone to it.

I use a screwdriver because it's convenient for me, but when I used to primarily use my 901 and others, the technique was exactly the same; slow draw, sharp intake. I usually draw for around 6-7 seconds before inhaling.

 

[wv2win]

I absolutely understand this beyond layman's, no need to break it down.
I won't disagree with you that those who use improvised vaporizers or manual switch vaporizers don't possibly get a better throat hit.

This subject again, that I said to wv2win a couple times already is trying to get the most with what you have. Not another alternative vaporizer than what you already have.

wv2win, states that her/his desire is to try to recommend something that will encourage newcomers to stay with vaping...when in fact, I'm doing the same thing.

The difference is, my suggestion is based on the possibility that there may be fault by way of use, rather than wv2win's constant pressing that it is always users fault in choice of device.

It is apparent that we all have different concepts of throat hits. Some like it scratchy, punchy, thick and heavy, mild and sharp...and can't forget the jalapeno spicy...there are so many different ways to get a satisfactory throat hit...it just depends on the individual.

So, again, my suggestion is that people try different draws of the vapor from the e-cig that isn't meeting up to expectations before resorting to buying another model that may indeed, not meet up to expectations, as you have proven with your technique to get a satisfactory throat hit from your pen style.

I mean, with selective preaching from people about better throat hits through manual and battery size. How exactly do you explain the many (including myself) saying the throat hit from a M401 or RN-4081 is far more intense than the bigger DSE901 and vice versa?

Bit inconsistent, wouldn't you say? Pretty safe to assume, no matter the device...we all have different experiences.

WOW, get a grip, will ya? I'm not saying that your method doesn't have merit just that a manual switch and a larger battery make it much more effortless to get throat hit and get it consistently. I have used your method as well as the manual switch with the larger battery so I can compare the two. You, on the other hand, do not have that comparison point. I guess having a different approach or opinion is not something that your ego can handle. That's too bad since we are here to help each other.

 

[dedmonwakin]

Ok, i just tried your method and I notice a slight but definite increase in TH. I have always been a draw in mouth then inhale smoker. I didnt even think others did a lung draw. I just tried the "lunger method" and man that's a harsh throat burning way to smoke/vape and i've been smoking 1.5 per day for 30 years.

Anyway, i have some menthol crystals on the way because it said adding a very small amount adds TH. I have a feeling that the "drag, pause, inhale method will probably be stronger a TH with the menthol... we'll see.

Oh yeah, i have got to try EDOs "Hopin Jalapeno" vape

Menthol's definitely do increase the sensation of a TH. So does dripping and smoking straight off the atomizer with out a cartridge(not recommended on any atomizer with exposed wick) which almost feels like smoking a cigarette because you feel the heat of the atomizer on your lips and no reduction of heat passing through distance and by cartridge)

Point is, there are so many variations to try without having to resort to modifications or a manual switch or purchasing a newer model because of lack in throat hit. If you own various models, you'll find some hit harder than others and that those require changes in how you smoke.

I created my own Radio Shack mod with a manual switch the day before yesterday with a dud battery I got from a China seller. Of course I wasn't about to pay for shipping back to China so I modded it, spending less than what it would cost to ship it back.

There was more of an ultimate convenience rather than increase in sensation of throat hit. More control, less worrying about the battery dying while out, pre-heating, and consistent throat hits. I can't say that the throat hit for me was more harsh than what I was able to achieve on a traditional e-cig, just not as long and not as consistent on an e-cig. It's a trade off, really.

At home, in the car, maybe at a friends home will I use it. But, certainly, will I not be seen walking around with a black box in my hand sucking on it, again. It's enough to be questioned about the e-cig when walking around with a blue/green light. I'd rather not have to keep popping my battery lid open to prove that this indeed is not where I put my weed. (Yes, I was questioned at the public park by a rent-a-cop who thought I had something else burning in such a big contraption...not because I was smoking)

 

[dedmonwakin]

WOW, get a grip, will ya? I'm not saying that your method doesn't have merit just that a manual switch and a larger battery make it much more effortless to get throat hit and get it consistently. I have used your method as well as the manual switch with the larger battery so I can compare the two. You, on the other hand, do not have that comparison point. I guess having a different approach or opinion is not something that your ego can handle. That's too bad since we are here to help each other.

wv2win, see above post.
I was not trying to make this another mod/manual switch comparison thread. Through your efforts, it apparently has become so. I do respect other's opinions, but only if it's mutual...if you would please do me the favor and go back and read your posts. I am burdened with vision in only one eye, so excuse me if I require two eyes to see the acknowledgment that you claim to have had to this topic of technique.
Thanks and sorry.

 

[wv2win]

How about we just shake hands (figuratively) and leave it at that. Your technigue does help get more throat hit. The use of a 1000mAh battery with a manual switch gets throat hit consistently over an 8 hour period. Two methods with different advantages. How does that sound?

 

[dedmonwakin]

How about we just shake hands (figuratively) and leave it at that. Your technigue does help get more throat hit. The use of a 1000mAh battery with a manual switch gets throat hit consistently over an 8 hour period. Two methods with different advantages. How does that sound?

Acknowledgement whether being minimal or great is all that I sought. I apologize for going off the deep end.

 

[wv2win]

Good and I apologize also. Now, DON'T post again unless you clear with me first! (Hope you have a sense of humor!)

 

[dedmonwakin]

Good and I apologize also. Now, DON'T post again unless you clear with me first! (Hope you have a sense of humor!)

lol! Indeed I do! I have to with all the looks I endure and comments I get when I walk around, supposedly looking like a "Mortal Kombat" character, that I often hear from people!lol

 

[SABOTEUR]

I feel i get a good TH from e smokey treats 18mg watermelon, and the cherry,but not so much on the coffee or the vanilla. just my 2 cents

Curious that you say that, because it relates to my experience with vaping vanilla from Vapor4Life the first time yesterday.

Never got much of a throat hit from any juice until yesterday. I'm using the same equipment...inhaling the same way, but the V4L vanilla coated my throat with heated vapor. My guess is that it maintains a high temperature longer than the other juice I've tried.

Does that make sense?

 

[Happy Jack]

lol! Indeed I do! I have to with all the looks I endure and comments I get when I walk around, supposedly looking like a "Mortal Kombat" character, that I often hear from people!lol

HOORAY!!! Group hug!

 

[dedmonwakin]

Curious that you say that, because it relates to my experience with vaping vanilla from Vapor4Life the first time yesterday.

Never got much of a throat hit from any juice until yesterday. I'm using the same equipment...inhaling the same way, but the V4L vanilla coated my throat with heated vapor. My guess is that it maintains a high temperature longer than the other juice I've tried.

Does that make sense?

That's interesting. I'm interpreting that what you consider throat hit to be, is the immense heat hitting the back of your throat. Although I haven't had a chance to experience all the flavors out there since I'm determined to make my own. I myself haven't noticed any increase or decrease of throat hit or heat in regards to added flavor or the absence other than menthol's. I don't doubt that this is possible, though.

Maybe the consistency is different than your other liquids? Maybe it has more glycerin? Maybe the vanilla is in fact vanilla extract and the added alcohol made for more intense heat?