Throat Hit...

[cjhmdm]

What is a "good" throat hit?

First.. When I bought my Luci, the carts they gave were very weak and tasted weird, so I eventually picked up a bottle of 11mg Davidoff made by Dekang, which was much better (there were very limited strenthg/flavor choices at the store I went to, and my shipments still haven't arrived yet)...

Now, the Davidoff had a small throat hit, but wasn't too bad.

So, yesterday I received one of my packages, containing 5 bottles of 24mg liquids also made by dekang. 3x RY4, 1x Peach, 1x Desert Ship...

Now, the taste on all of them are great imho.. but when I inhale, it feels like I'm breathing in bug spray mixed with bleach (the actual burning feeling you get like when you use bug spray in a poorly ventilated area, not the taste itself). Basically, my throat burns quite badly, and I pretty much have to chase the vape with a sip of coffee to get my throat to stop burning...

So I mixed them.. 50% VG (the bottle actually says "pure glycerin" and I got it from the bakery section of the grocery store), 50% e-juice, which helped a bit but it's still quite hard on my throat.

Which brings up my question.. is this what classifies as a "good" throat hit? Before I started vaping, I used to smoke 2+ packs of Marlboro Lights a day, and never once have I had this kind of throat burning badness from smoking analogs. I was honestly expecting the throat hit from vaping to be similar to that I got from smoking analogs, but as it is right now, this is unbearable.

Oh, I should mention.. I used brand new cartos with these new flavors. Originally the cartos I used were marlboro red flavored, and gave me the same acid in my throat burning that these juices I got in do. I could only take like 2 puffs from the carto before I had to suck down half my coffee. (both cartos were the same).

So, I flushed the cartos with hot water, then boiled them for about 5 min or so, let em drain/dry then filled em up with e-juice.

I should also note.. the taste/flavor itself is not bad, at all. There's no burnt taste, or chemical taste whatsoever, and I quite enjoy the peach flavor.. but all 3 of them are absolute murder on my throat.

 

[WomanOfHeart]

The TH from vaping is somewhat different from smoking. The amount of PG in the juice and nicotine level, to a certain degree, are what give you TH in vaping. What constitutes a "good TH" is completely up to each individual vaper. Some people vape 100% PG for the taste and the hard TH. Others will use a mix of PG/VG to control the amount of TH. I'm not a big fan of hard TH, so I vape no more than 60% PG.

 

[Jetmec]

I have the same problem with some juice. I have been using Johnson Creek Tennessee Cured but trying other juices. I keep going back to the Tennessee cured. The perfect vap is really evasive. But if you are getting a hard throat burn I would try something different. I use a home built variable volt with ce2 ver4 cartomizers and have found that different juices perform different at different voltages. I also use an eGo ant that seems to work best with atomizers. It is a real challenge to find just what works best for you. I hope to find my sweet spot soon. Don't give up.

 

[cjhmdm]

The TH from vaping is somewhat different from smoking. The amount of PG in the juice and nicotine level, to a certain degree, are what give you TH in vaping. What constitutes a "good TH" is completely up to each individual vaper. Some people vape 100% PG for the taste and the hard TH. Others will use a mix of PG/VG to control the amount of TH. I'm not a big fan of hard TH, so I vape no more than 60% PG.

The bottles I bought were PG, then I mixed 50/50 with VG to hopefully cut down on the throat burning; didn't seem to help much. I can't really see myself cutting even more to below 12mg nicotine because I don't want to have to vape more in order to get the fulfillment of having a cigarette. I've always hated smoking, and while it seems to most that 'vaping' is some hip and cool thing to do, I'm doing it for my health. And it seems that 12mg is the sweet spot for me to get that nicotine fulfillment that I'm looking for.

I have the same problem with some juice. I have been using Johnson Creek Tennessee Cured but trying other juices. I keep going back to the Tennessee cured. The perfect vap is really evasive. But if you are getting a hard throat burn I would try something different. I use a home built variable volt with ce2 ver4 cartomizers and have found that different juices perform different at different voltages. I also use an eGo ant that seems to work best with atomizers. It is a real challenge to find just what works best for you. I hope to find my sweet spot soon. Don't give up.

I like the actual juices themselves, and enjoy the flavor of all 3.. but it really feels like i'm inhaling acid vapor of something. And then there's like an aftertaste burning that lasts quite a while if I don't drink something with some substance like coffee.

I don't really have a whole lot of choices when it comes to the brand of ejuice I buy. I live in the Philippines, and hate to say but a lot of the stores I found charge asinine fees for international shipping; and some won't even ship here at all. So I'm pretty much stuck with healthcabin.net, which takes 2+ weeks for delivery, and a local (same country) supplier with next day delivery. The local vendor only carries dekang, and I would like more info on the "HC" company found on healthcabin.. So I'm pretty much stuck with Dekang, which I don't mind at all since they seem to be a superior brand.

I guess I'm still in the trial and error phase, and hopefully I can find what works for me before I spend too much more money on testing ><

One major thing for me is trying to save money and improve my health at the same time.. As it is right now, I've spent more on e-cig stuff than I would have on 6 months of analog cigs. Where I live, 1 pack of marlboro lights is less than $1 (about 83 cents) so I highly doubt I'll save money in the long run.. but I also don't want to waste more money than I have to either ><

 

[saulgoode]

cjhmdm is spot on. Most, if not all of us, are in the trial and error phase. Throat hit (and flavor) is subjective. It's different with different people and more to the point, it's different wth different equipment and juices. Try as many combinations as you can until you find your own "sweet spot".

 

[cjhmdm]

I should probably note as well that I wouldn't mind a strong throat hit (similar to say a marlboro red), so long as it didn't make my throat burn for 5 minutes afterwards. One of the several things I hated about the luci is that there's pretty much no throat hit whatsoever.

I guess I should also ask.. is what I'm experiencing normal? I can't imagine anyone who would enjoy their throat burning for 5 minutes after one puff. I keep looking for good ways to describe what I'm getting, and another one that's very similar is the burning feeling you get when you have bad indigestion and belch up/regurgitate acid. I can't possibly think that this is what people are referring to when they say "good throat hit", or can it?

 

[cherewine]

I've read that some people can have reactions to the PG liquids. Have you thought about trying juices that only contain VG? Same amount of nicotine as you usually use, but skip the PG in the liquid. I've also read that with some VG juices, they are still able to get the flavor AND vapor that they want....just a suggestion. Good luck!

 

[WomanOfHeart]

I can't imagine anyone who would enjoy their throat burning for 5 minutes after one puff. I keep looking for good ways to describe what I'm getting, and another one that's very similar is the burning feeling you get when you have bad indigestion and belch up/regurgitate acid. I can't possibly think that this is what people are referring to when they say "good throat hit", or can it?

Actually, that's an excellent description that I can relate to because I used to have horrible acid reflux, which interestingly enough has all but gone away since I started vaping. I would consider that feeling more along the lines of pure torture than "good throat hit." I'm assuming that you aren't using the Luci anymore, so what set-up are you currently using and how long have you been vaping with that set up?

 

[VAPOINSANO]

hi+welcome newb 2 n00b! lol
while i am new here +new to vaping,
something sounds weird about your predicament?

hopefully 1 of the "pros" here will chime in!

my personal expierence w/ 3 kinds of juice
are all , well, different too! i believe quality has alot to do w/ it?

1 is from here + 1 is from their and so-on, i could rate them like that
or 1 is motor,tran oil +1 is really nice?
they are all in variances too?
meaning; includes all kinds of configuring pg/vg/nic levels etc......
im sure it will be solved in this forum!
thats mine +jaws 2 cents anyway! lol
good luck+wishing you the best! d.b.

ps i think that all here would agree ?
the search for the perfect combo, yet elusive? is also fun+exciting
as long as 1)money+ 2)analogs dont get in the way!!

 

[cjhmdm]

Actually, that's an excellent description that I can relate to because I used to have horrible acid reflux, which interestingly enough has all but gone away since I started vaping. I would consider that feeling more along the lines of pure torture than "good throat hit." I'm assuming that you aren't using the Luci anymore, so what set-up are you currently using and how long have you been vaping with that set up?

Well, until I screwed up my luci atty earlier by filling it with super glue (don't mod while watching a movie!) I was using it. THe Luci atty performed pretty well, and was probably the only thing I didn't hate about their product; so I kept it on hand to taste differences (if any).

My main e-cig now really looks like an eGo, but isn't brand labeled. I needed something better than the luci while waiting for my other kit to arrive, and this one I have now I bought at the local mall. Anyway, it performs quite well, and I had no issues whatsoever with the davidoff juice I was using, nor the menthol cartos that came with it. I bought 2 marlboro red cartos from the same place, and they give me the same throat burning badness that the juices do...

 

[B-Rad_The_Mad_Vapr]

well from my analog experiences (you said 2 packs marl lights?) those tasted like air and had no throat hit at all. I rolled my own unfiltered 2-3 pack a day and now I vape 30mg @ 7.4v 70%PG & 3.5 ohm atty

Throat hit will come from many variables... higher voltage, lower resistance(ohm) nicotine content and PG content. The best and most cost effective way for you to find your vape is to DIY w/ you juices and play around w/ the different variables (like a kid w/ his first chemistry set) lol

So I suggest... lower the nic, up the VG, use higher ohm atty
Best of luck!

 

[cjhmdm]

Yeah, I'll figure it out eventually ><

One thing I have noticed is if I take quicker drags then the acidy throat burn isn't so bad - by quicker drags I mean how quickly I pull on it, not how long I pull for.

I'll try lowering the nicotine some more once I get some spare bottles in a few days, and hopefully I'll find a happy medium. I really don't want to lower the nicotine as it seems 11-12mg is my sweet spot, but if that's what it takes then I guess I'll have to ><

Thanks again for the replies and info guys and gals, I appreciate it.