Does flavor have anything to do with TH, or is it up your pv and pg/vg ratio? I'm trying to figure out what I like and it looks like strong th is important to me, but I don't know where to focus my search.
Throat hit ?
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From what I know TH is based on nic level, PG is usually higher than VG and what type of unit (voltage) you use. You made me remember: when I quit the TH was very important. Now I'm vaping 5.5mg JC choc truffle with a light TH and it's not such an issue...
The throat hit has to do mostly with 3 things : Edit : -. in juices bought from vendors.
1) nic level,:Edit: this is a prime factor- but I wouldn't suggest increasing the nic for better TH. :Edit: - as first option if have a High VG liquid
2) pg/vg ratio. The more the VG the less the TH. less flavor too. Most find 80PG/20VG to be a nice balance since you want some VG for more vapor.
3) There are some liquids that have added food grade ingredients to add throat hit, like: Qhit, Flash, Capsiacin extract( I'm pretty sure the last one( capsiacin extract ) is mostly just used in DIY juices,a trick of the trade, as opposed to finding it in juices you buy from vendors).
The flavor has little or no effect on throat hit except maybe menthol juices.
Hope this helps
:edit: if you would like to increase the TH with out increasing the nic, it way be a good idea to consider a lower Ω atty/carto if you have a 450mah battery or higher or a higher voltage PV.
Happy vaping
1) nic level,:Edit: this is a prime factor- but I wouldn't suggest increasing the nic for better TH. :Edit: - as first option if have a High VG liquid
2) pg/vg ratio. The more the VG the less the TH. less flavor too. Most find 80PG/20VG to be a nice balance since you want some VG for more vapor.
3) There are some liquids that have added food grade ingredients to add throat hit, like: Qhit, Flash, Capsiacin extract( I'm pretty sure the last one( capsiacin extract ) is mostly just used in DIY juices,a trick of the trade, as opposed to finding it in juices you buy from vendors).
The flavor has little or no effect on throat hit except maybe menthol juices.
Hope this helps
:edit: if you would like to increase the TH with out increasing the nic, it way be a good idea to consider a lower Ω atty/carto if you have a 450mah battery or higher or a higher voltage PV.
Happy vaping
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what device are you using?
This is a question i posted a week or 2 ago also.
Seems like there is no good answer for Throat hit.
I use 3.7 volts and I use 5 volts. Kr808d-1
I have used 80/20 PG/VG mixes. and many more.
I have taken Nicotine levels from 6mg to 36mg.
I added vodka and added EVERCLEAR from 3% to 10% THIS SEEMED TO WORK THE BEST
I have not found anything that provides a consistent throat hit.
But i will tell you, All the preloaded cartomizers I have tried give me a great throat hit. Go figure.
Good luck....Let me know if you find something good.
This is a question i posted a week or 2 ago also.
Seems like there is no good answer for Throat hit.
I use 3.7 volts and I use 5 volts. Kr808d-1
I have used 80/20 PG/VG mixes. and many more.
I have taken Nicotine levels from 6mg to 36mg.
I added vodka and added EVERCLEAR from 3% to 10% THIS SEEMED TO WORK THE BEST
I have not found anything that provides a consistent throat hit.
But i will tell you, All the preloaded cartomizers I have tried give me a great throat hit. Go figure.
Good luck....Let me know if you find something good.
I got some Cinnamon Red Hot flavor juice and it does kinda hard on your throat so get some cinnamon juices.
True. If you want throat hit cinnamon does the trick. Cinnabomb from Vapor Bomb will knock your socks off.
Nic is TH
PG lets it through better
Heat enhances it. Only slim ecig with more heat is KR808D-1 (real 3.7v) using cartos like VaporLife WOW cartos. Other than that, heat is gotten with low resistance attys/cartos on big batteries 450mah or larger (Ego, Riva 510, mods etc), or with standard attys/cartos and higher voltage or variable voltage
Manual batteries make it easier to get a good hit because you can press the button is 1-2 seconds before you start your drag so there is already vapor made before you start dragging.
Some flavors have their own throat sensation that may add fake TH - mints, menthols, peppers, cinnamon, ginger, other spices, some liquor flavors
PG lets it through better
Heat enhances it. Only slim ecig with more heat is KR808D-1 (real 3.7v) using cartos like VaporLife WOW cartos. Other than that, heat is gotten with low resistance attys/cartos on big batteries 450mah or larger (Ego, Riva 510, mods etc), or with standard attys/cartos and higher voltage or variable voltage
Manual batteries make it easier to get a good hit because you can press the button is 1-2 seconds before you start your drag so there is already vapor made before you start dragging.
Some flavors have their own throat sensation that may add fake TH - mints, menthols, peppers, cinnamon, ginger, other spices, some liquor flavors
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I have a peach flavoring that has quite a kick to it. Since I don't like a lot of TH, I have to tame it with ethyl maltol or sweetener whenever I mix with it.
Yup. I use TFA flavoring and without any sweetener or other flavors mixed in it gives one heck of a kick, at least to me.
From my DIY experience.. Orange, Peach and Raspberry give TH, even at 12 mg. I suspect it's because the flavor suppliers have to use alcohol as a carrier to mix them.
I noticed a few posts here suggesting higher voltage for more TH, but it's also important to keep in mind the resistance of the atomizer/cartomizer. In the end, it's the overall wattage that determines that aspect of TH. (I find about 7.5w to be my preference, but I've enjoyed as low as 5w.) Even with a 3v battery, you can enjoy some wicked TH with a 1.8Ohm atty.
If you go the LR route, make sure to have a higher capacity battery, and go the manual route, as LR vaping will drain batteries faster.
As others have stated, nicotine content is also very important for TH. I find 24mg/ml to be suatable for high-wattage vaping, an 36mg/ml to be both top harsh at high wattages and just perfect at normal wattages. Also, PG, while it may leave a scratchy, burning feeling if you use too much, adds significant TH in fairly small quantities. Try mixing about 10% PG with your normal vape if it's VG-based. Conversely, if you like vapor, you can add small quantities of VG to get a significant increase in vapor production, though this mutes some flavors.
If you don't DIY liquids, you can always order a small bottle of PG and order your normal VG vape in a higher strength to mix that. Though it will dilute the flavor as well as the nicotine. Perhaps you could order something similar with more PG in it, if available. Best of luck!
Edit: Also, I've found menthol adds a ton of TH, but it's also very hard do clean out of an atty/carto. Spicy flavors, if you're willing to experiment, also provide a good TH and you may like them. Try ordering a small quantity of black pepper flavor if you feel like experimenting.
If you go the LR route, make sure to have a higher capacity battery, and go the manual route, as LR vaping will drain batteries faster.
As others have stated, nicotine content is also very important for TH. I find 24mg/ml to be suatable for high-wattage vaping, an 36mg/ml to be both top harsh at high wattages and just perfect at normal wattages. Also, PG, while it may leave a scratchy, burning feeling if you use too much, adds significant TH in fairly small quantities. Try mixing about 10% PG with your normal vape if it's VG-based. Conversely, if you like vapor, you can add small quantities of VG to get a significant increase in vapor production, though this mutes some flavors.
If you don't DIY liquids, you can always order a small bottle of PG and order your normal VG vape in a higher strength to mix that. Though it will dilute the flavor as well as the nicotine. Perhaps you could order something similar with more PG in it, if available. Best of luck!
Edit: Also, I've found menthol adds a ton of TH, but it's also very hard do clean out of an atty/carto. Spicy flavors, if you're willing to experiment, also provide a good TH and you may like them. Try ordering a small quantity of black pepper flavor if you feel like experimenting.
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Try some dual coil cartomizers, Those will give you a sweet TH...510 Dual Coil Stainless Mega Cartomizer
The throat it has to do mostly with 3 things.
1) nic level, but I wouldn't suggest increasing the nic for better TH.
2) pg/vg ratio. The more the VG the less the TH. less flavor too. most find 80PG/20VG to be a nice balance since you want some VG for more vapor.
3) There are some liquids that have added food grade ingredients to add throat hit, like: Qhit, Flash, Capsiacin extract( I'm pretty sure the last one is mostly just used in DIY juices,a trick of the trade, as opposed to finding it in juices you buy from vendors).
The flavor has little or no effect on throat hit except maybe menthol juices.
Hope this helps
Happy Vaping
Sorry, but I can't agree with most of this.
I've been vaping for quite a while and have vaped on 15+ different devices, from 3.2 volts up to 6 volts. I have used PG, VG and blended eliquid. I have used nic strength between 6mg and 36mg. I've added PGA, pepper extract and about 6 other BS recommendations for better thoat hit. I know what provides good throat hit.
There are only TWO things that provides 90-95% of throat hit: warmer vapor and nicotine strength. More PG vs VG, additives such as PGA, only change the throat hit by a small percentage. And that may be all a person needs, which is great if you only want a small change in the throat hit.
Warmer vapor comes with more power, which is provided by more powerful batteries: 5 volt and variable volt batteries provide the warmest vapor and thus much better and consistent throat hit over a much longer time frame. If a person has not vaped on a 5 volt or variable volt PV in comparison to 3.2v - 3.7v, there is no way they would realize the significant difference. The other part of the equation is obviously a higher level of nicotine, generally in the 18-36mg range.
LR attys can also help with smaller battery PV's (3.2-3.7 volt). But they have a shorter life span and are more inconsistent.
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Throat hit is determined a lot by the liquid you use, also the higher your nic level they more of a throat hit you get, and your device can also effect your amount of throat hit. I personally don't care for much of a throat hit.
It has VERY LITTLE to do with the liquid you use. (other than the nicotine strength)
Flash is an ingredient that is meant improve TH in juice.Here you go
Flash e-Liquid [FA-FLASH] - $4.99 : Quality brand e cigarette and e cig liquid from ecigexpress.com
It is meant to use during the making of the juice. If you were to add it to an already made juice you would probably have to add an amount that would most likely diminish the flavor for the TH improvement to be meaningful.
No need to apologize. you are free to disagree.
Respectfully, as I do agree with your voltage ( well more wattage) statements,and that should have been #2 of 4, I have to disagree, bassed on my own experiences, with your discrediting the rest of mine. They are all factors that play a part in the end result starting with nic level creating the majority of the TH and ending with wattage accentuating the TH.I will admit there are a few exceptions to the rule but all are factors.Besides, I'm pretty sure my opinions are widely recognized with most vapers so I dont feel alone in this.
I have vaped different nic levels but when I switch I stay at that level for a while.The juices that come from my favorite vendor, I cant vape above 7 watts due to how the juices are made. Most others I vape 8-9 and a couple at 10.
Plain and simple,nic level and wattage aside. If you take a bunch of juice at the same nic level and vape them at the same wattage the throat hit will vary drastically from juice to juice because they are all made with different ratios of different ingredients.
So although you bring up a good point, respectfully, I have to vehemently disagree with there being only 2 factors. Sorry
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