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TarlessWonder

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Hey everybody,
I've been off analogs for a little over a month now and I am thrilled about stumbling onto ECF and the industry as a whole. I never really talked about or heard the concept of "throat hit" in 30 years of smoking. Is it analagous to that punch to the lungs after I took a really big drag of a cig or is it literally a feeling in the throat? Maybe my lungs/throat are so shot from smoking that I can't tell the difference...can someone please provide me with clarification/definition? By the way - I am on a mission to find the vaping device that will provide me the biggest punch to the lungs with the smallest amount of work. Less than 4/5 sec of inhaling would be nice. Any suggestions appreciated. Thanks.
 

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I haven't been vaping that long but from my experience it is the same sensation I would get from smoking a strong cigarette. Kind of like a tingling in the back of your throat when inhaling. Without this sensation, a PV would be useless to me. This is what tricks me into thinking I am really smoking. Usually the stronger the nicotine in your juice, the more throat hit you get. I usually use 26mg. Although I have gotten a good throat hit from 18mg. I guess it just depends on the juice. And the longer you draw, the stronger the throat hit too. Sorry, I'm still new at this so I hoped this helped a little.
 

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Thanks, guys - methinks my throat is dead from over 30 years of smoking - I honestly never noticed the nicotine tingle - or don't remember it. My throat does get a little raw when I vape a lot, but this is not what you are referring to. My sense of satisfaction from smoking came from when I took a big drag, inhaled it all at once, and my lungs got hit with a ton of smoke - kinda like the sensation of lighting a cig up after you run a mile...
 

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To add to what Base said above, use 70/30 or 80/20 PG to VG ratio, 24 mg liquid and use it to fill a dual coil cartomizer. Then fire it up on a 5 volt device and .......... well......... come back and let us know :)

It will be something similar to taking a loooooooong drag on a non-filtered cigarette. Definitely not for everyone but if that's what you want..........

All the best!
 

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15 year smoker here and im getting good throat hit of an ego battery and a dual coil low resistance cartomizer with 36 mg juice, 20 dollar set up if you shop around for a short while. Might be a more cost effective method if it works for you. please someone correct me if im wrong but from my short reasearch I think getting ~5 volts is $50 or more just for the 'mod'.

Edit: also, I will be looking into getting a 'drip' setup for myself. normally i am using carts, but but I have used my friends drip setup a couple times and it was soo much better, throat hit taste, etc. Also cheep (~10 bucks i believe) and works on ego battery. Again someone chime in if im off here please.
 
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TarlessWonder

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Kind of like a tingling in the back of your throat when inhaling.

OK - just took a long drag off my rig and really trying to focus on any sensation in my throat. Can this "tingling" also be described as my throat tissue beginning to dry out or a gradually increasing dryness in proportion to the drag? I do experience this more when I inhale directly into my lungs vs. drawing the vapor into my mouth and inhaling it all at once...don't want to beat a dead horse, but I do want to be sure about this topic because it seems to be a major theme in juiceology.
I do plan to enter the world of variable voltage vaping soon, but right now I am focusing on finding the right juice mixture and concentration. I will try different concentrations of pg/vg and different nicotine levels.
 

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This might be the best suggestion yet. My vaping hardware is a big-time security blanket right now. If i'm not dripping on my USB rig, I'm vaping on my portables. OK - I'll admit it - I'm a serial vapist. I don't even care if this is abnormal. I have not even wanted a cig in over a month and I am very happy about that. I'll learn to moderate later. Thx, warlike.
 

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Try some cinnamon. It will give you a very good TH. Warning, it doesn't wash out of carto's well. Higher voltage and higher nic definitely does it too as it seems to make some juice explode!

So does Hypermint and clove. I love cinnamon, though for the throat hit. I have found that I can lower my nic level with that.
 

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Is it analagous to that punch to the lungs after I took a really big drag of a cig or is it literally a feeling in the throat?

It is a feeling in the throat. However, there is a very high chance that you will also get a sense of satisfaction from the "fullness" in the lungs if you can get good, strong TH. More on this below.

By the way - I am on a mission to find the vaping device that will provide me the biggest punch to the lungs with the smallest amount of work. Less than 4/5 sec of inhaling would be nice.

What I wrote in my reply a few posts above was the quick way out. It is not inaccurate but after re-reading this thread it sounds like you want to fully understand what's going on. This may turn out to be "too much info" but it will give you a solid handle on how exactly to fine tune your vaping experience and you'll know why people are talking about low resistance, dual coil and variable voltage etc. Plus, I just really like Dunedin :)

First, it sounds as if you are "fighting" with your device. In other words, you are asking of it a bit more than it can easily deliver. That full, warm feeling comes from 2 things primarily: Heat and nicotine. Secondarily, you will find that certain flavors will "hit" better than others.

The more volts your device can produce, the hotter it can make your atomizer/cartomizer. In very general and very broad terms, most devices are about 3.7v. However, a freshly charged battery will have a higher voltage. This voltage drops as the battery is being used. They start at 4.2v fully charged and drop to about 3.2 or so. 3.7 volts is the average. This is referred to as non-regulated. To combat this fading effect, they have come out with "regulated" devices. These devices will deliver a constant voltage regardless of the charge in the battery. When the battery is discharged and cannot deliver, the device stops working. You then must charge the device or, in the case of a mod, remove the discharged battery and replace it with a fully charged one. Non-regulated is not "bad", just not as constant. On the plus side, they are quite inexpensive. So much for the battery side.

The atomizers/cartomizers come in different resistances. The lower the resistance, the hotter it gets. A very popular device, the eGo delivers one of the lowest voltages in the industry. This is why many that have an eGo also get very low resistance atomizers/cartomizers.

So assuming a 3.7 volt device:
3.7v x 3.7v = 13.69
Assuming you are using a 2.5Ω atomizer/cartomizer
13.69 / 2.5 = 5.476

So volts squared, divided by resistance give you the watts

Expressed otherwise:
watts = (voltage x Voltage)/ohms

Many people using 3.7v devices use the 2.0Ω cartos.
(3.7 x 3.7) / 2 = 6.8 w
Loosely and broadly speaking, most people are at about 6-8 watts.

I vape at 5v and use a 2.5Ω atty when I drip (10 watts)



So, why doesn't everyone just get the lowest resistance atomizer/cartomizer out there and be done with it? Well, the higher the resistance, the longer the coil. The longer the coil, the greater the area that is being heated. This means more liquid is heated and that means more TH, more flavor etc. Higher voltage and resistance combinations yield better results than low voltage low resistance combinations.

This post says it best:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...576-lets-talk-watts-vs-volts.html#post5522325

Enter dual coil cartomizers. I will not explain them here as this post has grown long but they heat an even larger surface area. Full details can be found here:

Dual Coil Cartomizers

To get around all this mixing and matching of voltage and resistance, they have come up with variable voltage devices. As you change the voltage, in essence you are also changing the watts until you find your sweet spot.


15 year smoker here and im getting good throat hit of an ego battery and a dual coil low resistance cartomizer with 36 mg juice, 20 dollar set up if you shop around for a short while. Might be a more cost effective method if it works for you. please someone correct me if im wrong but from my short reasearch I think getting ~5 volts is $50 or more just for the 'mod'.

Edit: also, I will be looking into getting a 'drip' setup for myself. normally i am using carts, but but I have used my friends drip setup a couple times and it was soo much better, throat hit taste, etc. Also cheep (~10 bucks i believe) and works on ego battery. Again someone chime in if im off here please.

You are not "off". You have successfully transitioned to vaping and that is the main thing. I would say it's 99%. The only thing that remains is a bit of fine tuning and you are doing it by trying dripping etc.

Yes, dripping can produce the results you describe. The results are usually far better than cartos but it is simply impractical for most people. Bottom feeders can eliminate this problem though. The bottle is squeezed and the nic travels up and wets the atomizer via a thin tube. You may wish to look into them for future reference.

When it comes to TH, by using a higher voltage device you can get similar TH but with much lower nic. I started with 36 and am down to 12mg -18mg. I can still make a Marlboro Reds smoker "take notice" when they try my setup. They expect it to be some "mamby pamby toy" and you can see the surprise when they inhale. Sometimes you can hear their surprise too when they cough :)

OK - just took a long drag off my rig and really trying to focus on any sensation in my throat. Can this "tingling" also be described as my throat tissue beginning to dry out or a gradually increasing dryness in proportion to the drag? I do experience this more when I inhale directly into my lungs vs. drawing the vapor into my mouth and inhaling it all at once...don't want to beat a dead horse, but I do want to be sure about this topic because it seems to be a major theme in juiceology.
I do plan to enter the world of variable voltage vaping soon, but right now I am focusing on finding the right juice mixture and concentration. I will try different concentrations of pg/vg and different nicotine levels.

As I mentioned above, this is a discussion about fine tuning. You have successfully quit cigarettes and that is the main issue by far. Beyond that, TH (as I describe it) is a warm, full, yet gentle, feeling in your throat as you inhale. When you exhale you feel a sense of satisfaction, relaxation and accomplishment. This is not to be confused with tingling or burning. As the fullness subsides, it is replaced by tingling and then burning. Those that have dripped for a while will tell you that when you feel a slight tingle, it is time to add a drop or two. If you feel the tingle but continue vaping, it will turn into a burning sensation. Then you definitely have to add drops. Even when describing heavy TH, it does not mean "harsh".

Unfortunately, the written word is not the best way to convey this sensation but we gotta try right? :)


This might be the best suggestion yet. My vaping hardware is a big-time security blanket right now. If i'm not dripping on my USB rig, I'm vaping on my portables. OK - I'll admit it - I'm a serial vapist. I don't even care if this is abnormal. I have not even wanted a cig in over a month and I am very happy about that. I'll learn to moderate later. Thx, warlike.

1000000000% ! Under no circumstances should anything discussed here create doubt. You should be very happy with what you have accomplished and hopefully you will read up a bit more and be able to quickly and easily perfect your vaping experience.

Congratulations to you and all the best!!
 
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