Throat hit

What gives throat hit?

  • Nicotine

  • Atomiser efficiency

  • Good power source

  • Additives in eliquid (eg. pepper?)

  • pH - alkalinity

  • Other


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Kate

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Thanks for the link Stephen. This is a link to the full paper and some quotes:

The sensory attribute most associated with nicotine is described within the company as 'impact' . It may be described by consumers as throat catch, throat hit, throat grip, etc. Our definition of impact is : the sudden sharp but short-lived sensation (typically less than one second in duration) which is noticed immediately the smoke makes contact with the back of the throat . A physiological explanation of the impact sensation is that nicotine causes smooth muscle to contract . The contraction is proportional to the dose of nicotine applied to it. In fact, the relationship between the applied dose and the magnitude of the contraction is logarithmic, but for all practical purposes, the more nicotine the stronger the contraction and hence the impact sensation.

http://www.health.gov.bc.ca/guildford/pdf/bat/122/00012275.pdf

That definition suggests that zero nicotine eliquid cannot produce a throat hit.
 

BREWINZ

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Thanks for the link Stephen. This is a link to the full paper and some quotes:

The sensory attribute most associated with nicotine is described within the company as 'impact' . It may be described by consumers as throat catch, throat hit, throat grip, etc. Our definition of impact is : the sudden sharp but short-lived sensation (typically less than one second in duration) which is noticed immediately the smoke makes contact with the back of the throat . A physiological explanation of the impact sensation is that nicotine causes smooth muscle to contract . The contraction is proportional to the dose of nicotine applied to it. In fact, the relationship between the applied dose and the magnitude of the contraction is logarithmic, but for all practical purposes, the more nicotine the stronger the contraction and hence the impact sensation.

http://www.health.gov.bc.ca/guildford/pdf/bat/122/00012275.pdf

That definition suggests that zero nicotine eliquid cannot produce a throat hit.

Very interesting...
 

parapo

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Thanks for the link Stephen. This is a link to the full paper and some quotes:

The sensory attribute most associated with nicotine is described within the company as 'impact' . It may be described by consumers as throat catch, t...
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That definition suggests that zero nicotine eliquid cannot produce a throat hit.


what are we feeling then if it's not a throat hit?
(me and other zero vaporers)
 

Kate

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This is the problem with us all talking about different things when we say throat hit. The researchers in the study mentioned say that it's to do with muscles contracting in the back of our throats that makes a tingling. Some people have described it as harshness and some as volume of vapour.

I suppose it all depends on what you mean by throat hit, I'm sure you can get harshness and heavy vapour with zero but the muscle contractions are to do with nicotine apparently.
 
I suspect that a small (trace) amount of oil is good for the atomiser in that it stops it from becoming completely dry and helps stop deposits building, much as a little oil in a frying pan helps cook things without burning and sticking. Just a thought.

BTW, anyone tried a pepper oil yet ?
 
Philip Morris's Marlboro additives : Tobacco & Flavor Ingredients - Philip Morris USA

Note the acetic acid (vinagar) but the much larger amount of alkali (ammonium hydroxide) as a 'Flavor Processing Aid'.

Wonder what ANGELICA ROOT OIL tastes like, and if anyone could really taste anything at a concentration of 0.0001% !
 

parapo

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Parapo....what 0 nicotene liquid do you vape and you get a throat hit ...i have tried everything but i am not sucsesfull.....

i vape DIY liquid with lorann and flavourart.it flavors.
i get with almost everything a hit for some time now,maybe it is something to get used to.

btw.
to define throat hit, i mean that feeling in the lungs that something is there,when i inhale...
 

BrenYngOne

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As some of you guys may already know I have been experimenting on getting to the bottom of the Throat Kick Science for a while now .​



have now tried nearly all Nic levels and over 30 flavours

and even Lemon Juice YUCK and now alchohol ! tried both PG and VG bases​

all tests are being done on a DSE901​



Just waiting for a few more ingredients and will let you all know the results soon​

:cool: CANT WAIT!
 

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IMO you left off the main cause of throat hit (temperature of the vapor) thats why a new battery, new vaporizer, 5V usb/batterypack, and direct inhale give a stronger throat hit. If all the other parrameters are the same you still get a stronger hit if you can get the temperature hotter. If I drip the same 901 same liquid with fresh bat= light hit, with usb 5v 500ma = med. hit, with usb batterypack 5v 1000ma = hard hit.
 

parapo

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IMO you left off the main cause of throat hit (temperature of the vapor) thats why a new battery, new vaporizer, 5V usb/batterypack, and direct inhale give a stronger throat hit. If all the other parrameters are the same you still get a stronger hit if you can get the temperature hotter. If I drip the same 901 same liquid with fresh bat= light hit, with usb 5v 500ma = med. hit, with usb batterypack 5v 1000ma = hard hit.


anything less than 1000mah is underpowered.
even if it is only 3.6volts.
 
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