Throat hits and low nicotine???

[GrimRep_er]

Hello again!

I've been vaping now for a few weeks. I love it! I quit cigarettes on my own a few months ago (which ironically coincided with my quitting drinking) but continued to smoke cigars on a somewhat regular basis.

I saw a guy at work smoking a disposable blu and was quite surprised at the amount of vapor it made. Much more then some of the mods I had bought a few years back that I put aside in a short period of time. Then I got a few and was somewhat impressed. That door led me to here.

I bought another set up, this time after a thorough in depth quest for information.

I bought a Provari, some cartos, a tank, a vivi nova, and a bunch of juice. (over the course of a few weeks)

At first, getting to the point of the post , I had 18mg of nicotine and usually a 60/40 70/30 pg/vg mix.

I like it, good flavor and a nice throat hit!

Since then I've made some changes. I went with the lower nicotine level, 6mg, and a 50/50 mix. Not much of a throat hit however.

The last juice I bought, was a 65pg/35vg blend at 6mg nicotine. Still, very little throat hit.

I was just reading that nicotine has a big impact on this, but I also red that the pg makes a difference as well.

Would and 80/20 mix at 6mg be the better way to go? Does higher pg provide a decent throat hit with low nicotine levels?

Or does that low of a nicotine level mean you must sacrifice it?

I don't care for menthol or ice type flavors. So I'm not out to "look" for flavors based on this. I'm just curious if altering the pg/vg levels will make much of a difference on the ones I currently use.

Thanks for any feedback.

 

[kiwivap]

Hi grim,
If its any help I vape 6mg at PG/VG 80/20 or 70/30. I find the throat hit ok, but I've been vaping 6mg nic for quite a while now.
I do find more throat hit with 12 mg.
Maybe you can get some 11 or 12mg as well as 6mg to compare, and yes, I think 80/20 will make a difference. I noticed a difference between 80/20 and 50/50 myself.

 

[akatina]

Things that affect throat hit:

• Nic
• PG
• Flavor (menthol, mint, cinnamon)
• The wattage of your vape

So if you are going low nic and don't want menthol, to get throat hit you need to up the PG and/or the heat of your vape. Though you might want to try cinnamon, it can be tasty

I would imagine you will want at least an 80/20 pg blend. And with the Provari you should easily be able to up the heat of your vape in increments to find a more pronounced hit.

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

I'm vaping 2 mg nic and my juice is 80/ 20 PG/ VG with 10% menthol and I get TH and lung hit. I began at 36 mg and slowly cut my nic down. Previous to 2 mg I was vaping 3 mg. PG is believed by many of us to be a throat irritant.
Juice Components
Flavoring usually about 15%- could be higher or lower depending on the flavor used.
PG enhances flavor, TH and lung hit- water like
VG= vapor and can mute flavor- thick
Nicotine- TH, lung hit and our need for nicotine. The MOST important ingredient in regards to TH and lung hit.
Standards in the industry are 80/ 20 or 70/ 30 PG/ VG. I vape 80/ 20 PG/ VG.
My advice would be to lessen your nic intake/ mg but do it in smaller increments % wise.
From 12 mg I went to 10 for a month, next 8 mg, next 7 mg and after that I went down in 1 mg increments. I do occasionally vape 5 mg if in a stressful situation. As for the TH "enhancers" I've tried them all and they did nothing for myself and friends= waste of $$.
Best of Luck.

 

[molli]

I'm vaping 2 mg nic and my juice is 80/ 20 PG/ VG with 10% menthol and I get TH and lung hit. I began at 36 mg and slowly cut my nic down. Previous to 2 mg I was vaping 3 mg. PG is believed by many of us to be a throat irritant.
Juice Components
Flavoring usually about 15%- could be higher or lower depending on the flavor used.
PG enhances flavor, TH and lung hit- water like
VG= vapor and can mute flavor- thick
Nicotine- TH, lung hit and our need for nicotine. The MOST important ingredient in regards to TH and lung hit.
Standards in the industry are 80/ 20 or 70/ 30 PG/ VG. I vape 80/ 20 PG/ VG.
My advice would be to lessen your nic intake/ mg but do it in smaller increments % wise.
From 12 mg I went to 10 for a month, next 8 mg, next 7 mg and after that I went down in 1 mg increments. I do occasionally vape 5 mg if in a stressful situation. As for the TH "enhancers" I've tried them all and they did nothing for myself and friends= waste of $$.
Best of Luck.

And again a VERY helpful post, not just for the OP. I was wondering about the 'cut down on nic' rate. I've just started 11 mg down from 16, at just under a month.

 

[Friedgoat]

I actually accidently bought 100mls of 5mg pluid, I need a way to fix the throat hit without reducing the flavour, any ideas?

 

[mainevaper]

Vodka or jack Daniels will help with throat hit.

 

[akatina]

Ah, I'd forgotten about adding alcohol! A few drops of PGA will increase throat hit.

There may be other additives to consider if that's a route you're interested in taking. I would suggest browsing the DIY forum to see what they add to increase throat hit.

 

[Renzuli]

Well , I now vape 0 nic. , but using my own juice at 70/30 PG/VG I just crank up the volts , or wattage , and sometimes take a double hit . I still get what can only be described as a throat hit . Granted if I vape some 12 mg juice , it almost is too harsh of a throat hit . Makes my throat hurt a bit . But there are several additives available , that will increase the TH . Google it . You should be able to find some .

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

@ molli

And again a VERY helpful post, not just for the OP. I was wondering about the 'cut down on nic' rate. I've just started 11 mg down from 16, at just under a month.

If you're comfortable and not having any cravings or chain vaping it's all good. I tried to go down from 12 to 6 mg and ended up having to retreat and rethink the process for "myself". After 44 yrs of smoking it was just too much. I had projected I was to quit vaping by last New Years...it didn't happen and I'm not bothered by it at all. I work/ volunteer at a non profit where addictions are dealt with and I just have to remember smoking is prolly the most strongest of addictions and is not to be taken lightly. Over the past 25 yrs I've people successfully kick all sorts of diff things and it always ends up smoking is the last and by far the toughest. One of the nicest things of all...when I returned to ECF 2? weeks ago I was welcomed in the most warmest of ways and there was no judgement by those that knew I had planned to quit...just sincere well wishes and many hearty "welcome back".

@ Friedgoat

I actually accidently bought 100mls of 5mg pluid, I need a way to fix the throat hit without reducing the flavour, any ideas?

You could add menthol or , as suggested above, add a small amount of distilled water or alcohol= throat irritant but not guaranteed to work. You could also decide what mg you need and buy an extra amount in the same flavor with a higher mg and mix the two. You just have to decide what your final target mg is and go from there. I'll try and find a link that has a calculator for already made juice and post it here. For example if you bought 100 ml X 36 mg of the same flavor and mixed the two you would have 200 ml X 20.5 mg. If wanting a lower final nic/ mg than 20.5 you could buy less 36 mg juice OR a lower mg juice to mix.

 

[Scoper50]

In my personal experience you need a high pg ratio and a higher nicotine level to get a satisfying throat hit. But what may be satisfying for me, may be too much for others.

I have some 70/30 stuff at 10mg of nicotine, and the throat hit is so weak I can't vape it. I also have some 100% VG juice at 18mg nicotine, and it also produces a very weak, almost non existent throat hit. However some people claim to get an awesome throat hit off 100% vg juice. I've never experienced it. I don't get it.

So my preferred juice is a 70/30 blend at 18mg nicotine. In the future I may choose to step myself down on the nic, but when I do, I will likely do it in small 2mg steps, and up the ratio to 80/20 to maximize TH. I would imagine that if you take small steps, you might just adjust to the changes in throat hit, and not notice it as much.

 

[MiamiMom63]

I've been lowering my nic also and am vaping at 8 mg. I am making my own flavors with organic alcohol based extracts and am getting the best throat hit I've ever had. Some might think it's a bit too strong of a throat hit due to the alcohol base, but it does the trick for me! Also, I use 100% VG nic base because due to the alcohol base, it thins out the VG nicely and I'm afraid if I used a PG nic base, it would be too thin. I haven't tried the PG yet though so that's just my guess.

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

Here's the online calculator for mixing EJuice:
E-Liquid Combining Calculator

@ molli

If you're comfortable and not having any cravings or chain vaping it's all good. I tried to go down from 12 to 6 mg and ended up having to retreat and rethink the process for "myself". After 44 yrs of smoking it was just too much. I had projected I was to quit vaping by last New Years...it didn't happen and I'm not bothered by it at all. I work/ volunteer at a non profit where addictions are dealt with and I just have to remember smoking is prolly the most strongest of addictions and is not to be taken lightly. Over the past 25 yrs I've people successfully kick all sorts of diff things and it always ends up smoking is the last and by far the toughest. One of the nicest things of all...when I returned to ECF 2? weeks ago I was welcomed in the most warmest of ways and there was no judgement by those that knew I had planned to quit...just sincere well wishes and many hearty "welcome back".

@ Friedgoat

You could add menthol or , as suggested above, add a small amount of distilled water or alcohol= throat irritant but not guaranteed to work. You could also decide what mg you need and buy an extra amount in the same flavor with a higher mg and mix the two. You just have to decide what your final target mg is and go from there. I'll try and find a link that has a calculator for already made juice and post it here. For example if you bought 100 ml X 36 mg of the same flavor and mixed the two you would have 200 ml X 20.5 mg. If wanting a lower final nic/ mg than 20.5 you could buy less 36 mg juice OR a lower mg juice to mix.

 

[MiamiMom63]

When I started trying to lower my nic, I searched for something to give a good throat hit and was told about Flash Eliquid. You can google it. It's supposed to help produce throat hit in juices, but I've never tried it. Instead I went to the alcohol based flavorings. If you don't want to do that, then I would say try a small amount of everclear (very small) and see if that helps.

 

[Caridwen]

If there was throat hit in zero nicotine, we'd probably all be vaping that.

I find most of the additives like Flash or adding alcohol more of a throat irritant than throat hit. Frankly, I'd rather vape a little nicotine than that.

If I vape lower nicotine, I vape non-stop. So for me, I see no real point.

 

[Talesin]

If there was throat hit in zero nicotine, we'd probably all be vaping that.

I find most of the additives like Flash or adding alcohol more of a throat irritant than throat hit. Frankly, I'd rather vape a little nicotine than that.

If I vape lower nicotine, I vape non-stop. So for me, I see no real point.

Same here . I tried lowering my nic level last month and I started chain vaping and turned into a total jerkass.

 

[GrimRep_er]

If there was throat hit in zero nicotine, we'd probably all be vaping that.

I find most of the additives like Flash or adding alcohol more of a throat irritant than throat hit. Frankly, I'd rather vape a little nicotine than that.

If I vape lower nicotine, I vape non-stop. So for me, I see no real point.

Lol! Good point. I'll have to live without it I guess.


Thanks to the other posters for their replies as well. Maybe I'll have some higher nicotine juices in my stock for use here and there.

I don't vape all day, I don't bring it to work. But I do vape quite a bit when I'm home. The weekend especially. I have noticed that the lower nicotine levels do seem to make me chain vape. I don't mind though. I enjoy it!

 

[Jiffster]

Hello, all. Noobie here. I have been a non smoker for 6 weeks now, and been vaping for 4 weeks. I love it. So far, I am only using the "look Alike" cigs.... I get them from e puffer.com , and they seem tomworkmwell for me. Thinking about advancing in my experimentation, but just not sure yet.

 

[GrimRep_er]

Hello, all. Noobie here. I have been a non smoker for 6 weeks now, and been vaping for 4 weeks. I love it. So far, I am only using the "look Alike" cigs.... I get them from e puffer.com , and they seem tomworkmwell for me. Thinking about advancing in my experimentation, but just not sure yet.

I started with blu's from Quickcheck and made the transition.

I have no regrets and the options and flavors are almost unlimited!

If you decide to experiment, this is the right place for good advice and tips on how to do it.

 

[edwleephoto]

6mg 5.5V with Provari works fine with me