Throat shutdown whilst vaping, advice please.
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Definitely see an MD. And let us know the results.
I have had the same or similar type spasm many times in the past. Always as a result of something "going down the wrong pipe" for me. Combine the bodies natural reaction with COPD and my airways would clamp shut to the point I felt like I was sucking air through a coffee stirrer. Never saw a doc, new what he'd say, just accepted that my "end" from smoking was closer at hand.
For me vape was the cure not the cause. Cure is probably the wrong word but haven't had the experience in over 2 years after converting *mostly* to vape. Obviously you need tests and a professional diagnosis and to stop what's causing the problem til you find the answer. Just be glad that you can avoid the trigger until then. You may find that vaping may not be the only trigger for you, may be other things you need to avoid.
Good luck.
I have had the same or similar type spasm many times in the past. Always as a result of something "going down the wrong pipe" for me. Combine the bodies natural reaction with COPD and my airways would clamp shut to the point I felt like I was sucking air through a coffee stirrer. Never saw a doc, new what he'd say, just accepted that my "end" from smoking was closer at hand.
For me vape was the cure not the cause. Cure is probably the wrong word but haven't had the experience in over 2 years after converting *mostly* to vape. Obviously you need tests and a professional diagnosis and to stop what's causing the problem til you find the answer. Just be glad that you can avoid the trigger until then. You may find that vaping may not be the only trigger for you, may be other things you need to avoid.
Good luck.
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Since my "trigger" was caused by Gerd I've taken steps to prevent that. I take a prescription Nexium daily and an over the counter antacid at night. I've also reduced hot spices in my diet, especially late at night. So far, so good for me. I'm curious about what Sara's doctor will say about her trigger.
Some great advice here. seeing a GP is the first concern. I kind of doubt it's an allergic reaction, but I'm sure he will probably want to test. There are four components to Eliquid... Propylene Glycol, Vegetable Glycerine, Nicotine, and flavoring. If you're a current smoker, I know you're not allergic to nicotine.
The others, however, you could have an allergic reaction, but allergic reactions usually evolve a slower response which lasts a while.It sounds more like some sort of "gag" response. If I had to guess (and I'm no doctor), I'd say it's something similar to what Extremedooty said... It seems to ring true. But in either case, it is a concern that should be taken care of. Just keep in mind, the GP will advise against not inhaling ANYTHING except air. If you do wish to try to quit through vaping, acknowledge his first recommendation (which would involve quitting smoking), and tell him your concern about trying to quit through ecigarettes.
...not being a doctor, what I would do, is after you see your GP, try starting smaller.... with a "cigalike". That's the smallest on the ladder, and by itself, I don't think it will get you to quit. It will, however, get you used to the larger particles of vapor. After a while, step up to your current setup which is what I call the lowest on the progression ladder that can get people to quit. The cigalikes, although good for introducing people to the concept of vaping, don't have as high as a success rate as something with the larger batteries. You may not need to go higher than the device you have now, but it might not be the best thing for you to start with.
Through my research I have discovered the response I had could be due to the steam, because the larynx closes when our body thinks we are drowning, so due to the moisture present in vaping thus causing this spasm. I'll know more once I discuss this with my GP, I'm making an appointment tomorrow.
If it's the steam, is that an unusual response? I mean, my parents used to make us all inhale steam using a hot pot of water and our heads suspended over it with a towel overhead to help loosen phlegm if we had colds... Sorry, I don't know much about that condition.
That being said, if it is the steam, I would DEFINITELY try a small, MTL device at low watts, you will minimize your vapor production and steam so you may be able to avoid that side effect. I would wait to see if your doc is okay with that, and thinks that is what is happening. But if it's vape/amount of vape, I'd definitely start researching MTL setups that will minimize your vapor production.
Anna
That being said, if it is the steam, I would DEFINITELY try a small, MTL device at low watts, you will minimize your vapor production and steam so you may be able to avoid that side effect. I would wait to see if your doc is okay with that, and thinks that is what is happening. But if it's vape/amount of vape, I'd definitely start researching MTL setups that will minimize your vapor production.
Anna
Too many peeps starting with too much power these days. Especially with nic levels new vapers require. Few know how to build for good vape volume at cool to moderate temps.
Nough said.
Good luck.
Nough said.
Good luck.
I have now got to the bottom of my problem, I spoke to my GP who said he would have to report it the the British medical association because vaping is in its infancy and they are looking for adverse side effects. However I'm 99% sure it was a nicotine issue, since changing my liquid to 70%vg & 30%pg and only 3mg nicotine I've had no issues whatsoever, happy days.
Sara Clay, I'm very happy for you that you've resolved your issues. Maybe let your doctor know that the issue has been resolved? If he's already reported, he could do a f/u report.
Anna
Anna
I moved to sub 0hms and 6mg after a single month of vaping..... Not necessarely because i wanted more clouds, but because it felt 100x more satisfying than my old nautilus. I don't do 100w + though the highest i went was about 60-65 ish watts, 100w seems too hot for me anyway (then again i haven't used a coil that goes above 100w)Too many peeps starting with too much power these days. Especially with nic levels new vapers require. Few know how to build for good vape volume at cool to moderate temps.
Nough said.
Good luck.
The Pockex is quite hot and took me some time to get used to even after months of vaping. It also took me months to not feels as if I had a constant build up inside my mouth and throat and I even gave up vaping for two years before te-stating again this April.
It took a LOT of trial and error to get the juice and the vast choice of vape gear right. Listen to your body and don't follow hypes and you will be fine.
For myself I now use 80-90% VG and I add Saline solution as a thinner. Quite a few threads will tell you that it is not possible to add more than 5% but I have not found this to be the case.
What helped me over build up, throat ache and zero taste was 90% VG, 8% saline solution (I just used Saline eye drops) and 2% Medicine Flower Peppermint. Try and fins something that you can vape all day without discomfort and then start experimenting.
It took a LOT of trial and error to get the juice and the vast choice of vape gear right. Listen to your body and don't follow hypes and you will be fine.
For myself I now use 80-90% VG and I add Saline solution as a thinner. Quite a few threads will tell you that it is not possible to add more than 5% but I have not found this to be the case.
What helped me over build up, throat ache and zero taste was 90% VG, 8% saline solution (I just used Saline eye drops) and 2% Medicine Flower Peppermint. Try and fins something that you can vape all day without discomfort and then start experimenting.
Thx for the update Cap. Goes without saying you won't be vaping high power and high PG then, huh? I found PG to be an irritant as well although not to your extent. I did however twice almost end up in the hospital having similar symptoms with OTC nic gums. Turned out I'm sensitive to cayenne pepper, a common ingredient, although I have no specific allergies.
I find commercial products merely adequate, overly warm and requiring excessive power to gain volume and flavor.You might consider rebuilding to better control output and vapor density. Something I've written a bit about. If I can help in any way let me know.
Best of luck!
Thx for the update Cap. Goes without saying you won't be vaping high power and high PG then, huh? I found PG to be an irritant as well although not to your extent. I did however twice almost end up in the hospital having similar symptoms with OTC nic gums. Turned out I'm sensitive to cayenne pepper, a common ingredient, although I have no specific allergies.
I find commercial products merely adequate, overly warm and requiring excessive power to gain volume and flavor.You might consider rebuilding to better control output and vapor density. Something I've written a bit about. If I can help in any way let me know.
Best of luck!
I have long (hahaha, a few months ago) moved on and totally switched to squonking. I am very happy with my Limelight gloom and the Shift BF
Pockex and all else (a ton of vapegear that I just had to try) will be for sale when I eventually get the time to take pictures and list it all. It was expensive to get there but not as expensive as if I would have carried on smoking analogs.I either vape Velvet Cloud or I try and mix my own with certified organic VG and flavors from medicine flower but I have yet to perfect the art of creating truly tasty juices beyond the plain Vanilla or Peppermint.
I have long (hahaha, a few months ago) moved on and totally switched to squonking. I am very happy with my Limelight gloom and the Shift BF
I either vape Velvet Cloud or I try and mix my own with certified organic VG and flavors from medicine flower but I have yet to perfect the art of creating truly tasty juices beyond the plain Vanilla or Peppermint.
Congrats. Keep it up. DIY gains are exponential. Particularly if you get the repeatable tunable build in there to take advantage of it through reliably equivalent comparisons. I was compelled to as I needed consistent juice specs to test the impact of strain on winds. These days I share the diversity of that experience in a multitude of flavorings with a select local crew who relish my complex recipes as well as contribute in their refinement. It's every bit as much a pleasure for me to craft for them. Your approach is sound…to take something you know well and replicate or embellish it.
Best of luck Cap.
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