Ok, my last post sounds just wrong, now. 
Anyway, I tilt on many levels, ese. Take another sip'a that potion.
Anyway, I tilt on many levels, ese. Take another sip'a that potion.
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I had an inkling about the no socks when I posed the question. Did you happen to notice, at some point in the last week, whether you tilt or no?
edit: oh, wait, cancel that. I found it.
edit: oh, wait, cancel that. I found it.
I vape like snake charmers play the pipe.
Been wondering lately (yay meaningful life) if wicking really is about angles. Seems to me the wicking capability of SS mesh in particular is more about breaking the surface tension of liquids than gravity. Put a drop of VG on rolled up 500-mesh and it pretty much sits there. Tilt the wick to make liquid move, and it's gone.
(This post may include mild exaggerations and lies for sake of dramatic effect.)
Been wondering lately (yay meaningful life) if wicking really is about angles. Seems to me the wicking capability of SS mesh in particular is more about breaking the surface tension of liquids than gravity. Put a drop of VG on rolled up 500-mesh and it pretty much sits there. Tilt the wick to make liquid move, and it's gone.
(This post may include mild exaggerations and lies for sake of dramatic effect.)
I guess I'm a gangsta lol I have always vaped like that even if I'm walking around.. Just habit I guess.
GANGSTA STYLE
GANGSTA STYLE
AHA, my good man! You're brain is orbiting the same thought as mine! Let me put my thinking this way; The wicks in our Gennys serve two purposes, which are (in fact) contradictory. One is to transport liquid (as rapidly as possible) to the coil. The other is to retain liquid (as effectively as possible) within the coil. All this, preferably, with as few unwanted side effects as can be managed.
One, fluid delivery. The fastest way to deliver liquid to the coil is tilting. Gravity and liquid seeking it's own level. Anything we put in the way is just that (in the way), a plug, if you will. Breaking the surface tension is important; but this can be accomplished by a very thin wire, or just a few strands of wick.
Two, fluid retention. What we want wrapped inside the coil is something that can be rapidly filled with liquid, holds a lot of it, and doesn't want to let go (back into the tank).
Some of the wicking materials we use are pretty good at serving both these purposes, but not GREAT at both. SS mesh wicks fast; but doesn't hold onto the liquid (drooling half-cooked liquid back into our sauce). And it doesn't wick nearly as fast as gravity. (Not to mention its taste, conductivity and dubious Chromium VI contributions.) Porous ceramic doesn't wick very well at all, but retains liquid fairly well (although maybe not enough). Although porous ceramic is rapidly improving (and is certainly good enough), it still can't do both 100%. (Not to mention that I'm one of those weirdos who can taste it, and don't like the taste.)
Side effects: primarily, this goes to my long time question, "why does tank juice not taste as good as freshly dripped?". Because, I say, it is being heated by the big fat heat sink we've stuffed into the tank. So, how can we isolate tank juice from coil juice, deliver it quickly, as needed, and have ample juice at the coil? (with the freshest, just-dripped flavor). By subverting the somewhat flawed design of the Genisis style atomizer.
As much as I am aesthetically attached to the beautiful Genisis design; I'm more into an excellent vape. So I'm thinking in terms of separating the "wick" function from the "coil/atomizer reservoir" function. Any ideas? Would love to group brainstorm along these lines.
Here's what I've been doing (and I know I'm not the first). BTW 90% of us, it seems, are tilting 45 degrees or more, when left to our own devices.
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These are SUPER fresh vapes! The juice retains "fresh-dripped" flavor throughout the tank. First pics are Nextel, last is braided cotton sleeve and a piece of wire (with bits of a previous experiment in the juice). Both are heavy sub-1Ω builds, and keep up great.
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I have been doing wicks like the first picture for a week now using silica and keeping the tail pretty short and it works great. I was just thinking about doing cotton wicks when I saw your post. Could you explain what you are doing in the second picture?.....what is the wire for?
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Hey, you too, huh? Well good! The cotton setup looks like this
The wire is simply there to, as WattWick the snake charmer put it, break the surface tension of the liquid at the wick hole. I'm not 100% sure its really necessary; but I think it helps. It really sort of draws the liquid up a little faster than "round" liquid trying to get through a round hole. (?)
The wire is simply there to, as WattWick the snake charmer put it, break the surface tension of the liquid at the wick hole. I'm not 100% sure its really necessary; but I think it helps. It really sort of draws the liquid up a little faster than "round" liquid trying to get through a round hole. (?)
yeppers. Its kinda like dripping from below. Which, in this case, isn't a bad thing. 
Heh that's quite clever. My silica wicks seem to enjoy doing two things. One is evenly distributing liquids along it's length. The other is sticking liquids to surfaces. Sometimes they seem to prefer the latter.
pdib...I made a new wick yesterday for my Cobra....This time I made the the silica tail going in to the tank really short (less than a centimeter)....one thing I am noticing is that my liquid isn't getting one shade darker and I still can go through the whole tank of liquid without any dry hits. The liquid I used is one of those that gets very very dark when vaping in a genesis. It seems that if you have a long tail going into the tank the wick brings juice back into the tank and then you get the juice slowly getting darker. But if you have majority of the wick above the deck....the juice only wick ups and the juice in the tank never gets darker. Of course I tilt when vaping so this might not work for everyone....but the vape is very pure in taste.
Yes. I noticed that when I was doing my "Platypus" tipper/dripper builds. I started with a dripping setup on the AGA deck and a wick/tail going into the tank. It was schlurping all kinda half cooked junk back into my juice. Later, by accident, I was doing "Frankenstein" dripper on the AGA. Best dripping flavor I've had. The wick hole and tank were only a spent juice dump zone on that one. Until I got away from my e-juice bottle and, with a furtive look-around, tipped it . . . . . not bad for graveyard juice. So I guess this is an amalgam of those things. Yada-yada-yada. Glad to see you're up for an experiment, EDO. (gladder that its working)
When I started with genesis devices I though I would never go back to silica wicks because the taste with ss mesh was excellent (almost as good as dripping) and the tank made it very convenient. But this is just too good. It is like dripping but with a tank...just like you were describing. I got some cotton yarn today...hopefully I can set up a cotton wick this weekend.
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Ah, my good fellow, cotton is just fine; but just wait 'til you try turnip greens!
I had bought some cotton from this gal in Latvia.... braided cord. The insides of it were bunkus, so I pulled that out and now I have 2&4mm braided cotton sleeve, which I've been utilizing in lots of cool ways. I think it performs better than the cotton yarn (almost no flavor too); but I can't speak for its "organic integrity" 4 mm Cotton Rope 5 Yards Natural and Elegant COTTON by gbsupplies
https://www.etsy.com/listing/127128875/2-mm-cotton-rope-10-yards-natural-and?ref=listing_127361756
https://www.etsy.com/listing/127128875/2-mm-cotton-rope-10-yards-natural-and?ref=listing_127361756
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I did a cotton build yesterday....I have gone trough about 5 ml of liquid already with the set up. Initially it performed great but now the cotton wick is too gunked up. I rinsed for about a minute under the faucet but it is still a little funky. It seems to me I can rinse away the gunk far easier with silica and I can always do dry burns with silica. My week old silica wick is cleaner than my day old cotton wick. It would be too inconvenient for me to change the cotton wick every day....any suggestions?
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