My local B&M sent this article in their weekly newsletter, its a great read.
An Open Letter to People Bothered by My E-Cig Vapor
An Open Letter to People Bothered by My E-Cig Vapor
Time magazine article
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I have been on the e-cig for 4 years, I puff everywhere I go. I have never even been approached by anybody. Although I do make a bit of an effort to be as discrete as possible. I have seen some people recently that make it a point to be as obtrusive as can be, just to make a stink. Sounds like this fellow is reasonable.
That is exactly how i felt as ive never had anyone say anything but have gotten THE LOOK.
On my Facebook page, I posted two paragraphs of what vaping has done for me and attached the link. My doctors support it. Good to spread the word.
I read this article some time ago, and I completely agree with everything she says. It's time for us to let the nannies know that they don't get EVERYTHING their way, just because "they say so." Compromise is what ADULTS do; only spoiled children demand to always have their way in every instance. Apparently the Smoke Nazis (who've now turned into vape Nazis) didn't get parented worth a damn, because they seem to think that they get to have their way, in everything, all the time. It's time for that malarkey to STOP.
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I wish more people would write the media like this. There is a section of a local news paper where you can call (or email) and say whatever is on your mind (with some guidelines of course), but they print what you say. If more people write stuff like this, more people (non vapors/smokers) will see a different side of vaping instead of just what the headlines from big media reads.
I liked the article, thanks for pointing it out. I have never had the unfortunate experience of someone's negativity toward my e-cig. I have had people come up and ask questions about it. I have been told I now smell like an air freshener and when I vape coconut I notice a lot of noses go up and inhale deeply. I try to be as respectful as I did when smoking. It does amaze me that someone would feel justified in insulting someone for vaping and never consider how offensive their lack of manners are.
I take every opportunity explain vaping to non smokers. They usually start out bemused and skeptical and I ususally win them over if I get a couple minutes to make my pitch. Here are the points I try to cover.
1. My best understanding is a billion + smokers spend upwards of $1 trillion on tobacco annually. 75% of that goes directly to governments as taxes. In America most tobacco taxes seem to be earmarked for public education. Pay attention to the anti vaping folks and you will notice a high percentage have a vital interest in public education and the money that funds it.
2. Based on my recent experience I think nicotine may be habit forming, similar to cafine, but is hardly addictive like tobacco. I predict we'll find most kids who try vaping will lose interest. The ones who stick with it will have a pre-existing tobacco issue. Kids should be permitted to vape with parental permission.
3. Vaping is not about "quitting", it's about control. If someone vapes they will smoke fewer cigarettes. Once you experience 50-80% control 100% control may look appealing because it is acheivable.
4. What the non smoking population can do to help is tolerate vaping in enough places where cigarettes are banned so skeptical smokers have incentives to try vaping. Many of them will decide to use vaping as a gateway out of smoking even if that wasn't their original intention.
5. I think commercially made eliquids should be regulated about the same as processed food depending on the actual risks of unsafe practices, such as they may be. I don't think devices need to be regulated. If a device is unsafe and hurts somebody the manufacturer has the same liability exposure as every other manufactured consumer product. Tobacco style taxes on vaping would be unethical and cruel.
1. My best understanding is a billion + smokers spend upwards of $1 trillion on tobacco annually. 75% of that goes directly to governments as taxes. In America most tobacco taxes seem to be earmarked for public education. Pay attention to the anti vaping folks and you will notice a high percentage have a vital interest in public education and the money that funds it.
2. Based on my recent experience I think nicotine may be habit forming, similar to cafine, but is hardly addictive like tobacco. I predict we'll find most kids who try vaping will lose interest. The ones who stick with it will have a pre-existing tobacco issue. Kids should be permitted to vape with parental permission.
3. Vaping is not about "quitting", it's about control. If someone vapes they will smoke fewer cigarettes. Once you experience 50-80% control 100% control may look appealing because it is acheivable.
4. What the non smoking population can do to help is tolerate vaping in enough places where cigarettes are banned so skeptical smokers have incentives to try vaping. Many of them will decide to use vaping as a gateway out of smoking even if that wasn't their original intention.
5. I think commercially made eliquids should be regulated about the same as processed food depending on the actual risks of unsafe practices, such as they may be. I don't think devices need to be regulated. If a device is unsafe and hurts somebody the manufacturer has the same liability exposure as every other manufactured consumer product. Tobacco style taxes on vaping would be unethical and cruel.
I think the article is great - my only issue with it is that it reinforces/promulgates the myth that nicotine (by itself) is addictive (and bad). Haven't we been provided with enough information to know that the addictive habit of smoking (combusted tobacco) has as much, if not more, to do with ritualistic behaviour than chemical dependancy?
Colognes and perfumes are the most offensive odors I've ever encountered anywhere, especially in a restaurant.
Yes, but the non-smokers think it's just all about the nicotine -- which is why they developed patches and pills and gum -- none of those work precisely because they're nothing like smoking, so they just don't satisfy. I think the chinese man who invented our current versions of e-cigs was a smoker himself, so he understood that the action needed to be closely duplicated, not just the nicotine. And for those who have been habitual smokers, the nicotine does remain an important factor, especially when smoking first stops.
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There is a lot for everybody to figure out about vaping. When I see other people vaping it looks a bit out of place to me even though I do it. If nic was as addictive as tobacco the gum and patches wouldn't be over the counter products. The FDA already knows that nic is about like cafine (BTW those two have similar chemical structure I'm informed by my local pharmasist). Everybody knows vaping is already safe and can probably be made even safer without much government involvement. There is no evidence that kids are going to take to vaping like they do to cigarettes. Let the kids try vaping instead of cigs. I wish that option had existed when I was a kid.
Angry vapor, i went to your website and read some of your links. I share your interest in the philosophical and ethical aspects of vaping issues. The inventor also had the advantage of being a pharmasist so he knew about the various chemicals he was using.
I'm a garage inventor, currently between inventions. My first project, 40 years ago was a device with a lot of similarities to current vaping technology. Everything needed to create basic vaping technology existed back then. The devices would have been unregulated and the best batteries available then, Nicads, would have been bigger and slower charging. It took another 30 years bacause nobody was looking for a solution. It could have been me, way back when, but I had the same blind spot as everybody else.
Angry vapor, i went to your website and read some of your links. I share your interest in the philosophical and ethical aspects of vaping issues. The inventor also had the advantage of being a pharmasist so he knew about the various chemicals he was using.
I'm a garage inventor, currently between inventions. My first project, 40 years ago was a device with a lot of similarities to current vaping technology. Everything needed to create basic vaping technology existed back then. The devices would have been unregulated and the best batteries available then, Nicads, would have been bigger and slower charging. It took another 30 years bacause nobody was looking for a solution. It could have been me, way back when, but I had the same blind spot as everybody else.
This makes no sense to me; you don't need a prescription to buy cigarettes, so they're "OTC".
I agree 100% about kids having access to e-cigs, but that msg falls on deaf ears around here -- most folks around here seem to be as worried about "the chiiiiiildren" as the hypocritical ANTZ are -- silliness like not vaping around kids, when it's been shown in reliable studies that "2nd hand vapor" is not dangerous. God forbid that kids should see someone vaping instead of smoking, it might give them the idea that it's perfectly fine to do something that's safer than smoking, or that saving your own life is a great thing to do -- god forbid they should ever think THAT!
Well, my vapor isn't angry; I'm an angry vaper. I'm angry because of the silliness I mentioned above, along with those idiot ANTZ who INSIST that everyone does everything exactly as the ANTZ tell them to do, because the ANTZ are fascist bullies who don't give a ratzass about anyone's rights or opinions but their own, and they'd rather believe some hysterical nonsense about nicotine being the "most addictive drug known to man" than ANYTHING actually scientific.
Are you Mr. Gilbert? If so, hat's off to you, sir!! If the technology had been capable of supporting the e-cig revolution in 1963 when my father was still burning down Luckies, he would probably still be alive, instead of 8 yrs in his grave from lung cancer.
Andria
I'm not Mr. Gilbert. Who is he? I don't get any credit for vaping as we know it today. I just meant to say that everything needed for vaping was available in the early 1970's. I was working on a related but different problem back then. But let's say somebody had introduced a vaping product in the early 1970's, would it have been successful? Was the public ready? I think it would have been a tough sell back then. If it had been patented then all the core patents would have expired and it would also be harder for the antz crowd to oppose it.
Mr Gilbert was the very first guy to come up with the "battery operated smokeless cigarette," in 1963, but no one was interested; not BT, because it was competition; not BP, because no one seemed to really like it (it suffered from the same drawbacks as the early cigalikes and many cigalikes now, low power, low vapor, lack of satisfaction). He did patent his design, which wasn't terribly different from the design that the Chinese pharmacist came up with in, what, 2006-2007? But no one really seemed to care for it, so it languished, forgotten, until the chinese-origin ones came around, when someone suddenly remembered that an American had done it first... but that ship had sailed. Mr Gilbert may have passed on by now, though I'm not sure about that; he could still be kicking as far as I know.
Andria
Awesome, really glad to hear that. He's gotta be pretty old by now. Sure wish his idea had caught on, back then; my dad might still be around.
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