TN Dept. of Health issues advisory on electronic cigarettes -

[fetalbounce]

[URL="http://clarksvillenow.com/local/tn-dept-of-health-issues-advisory-on-electronic-cigarettes/"]TN Dept. of Health issues advisory on electronic cigarettes | ClarksvilleNow.com[/URL]

 

[2coils]

I cant wait to hear Dimitris comments on this!

 

[Fulgurant]

Please break the link, and provide a blurb or an excerpt so that interested parties don't have to give that article click traffic. Suffice to say that the TN Dept of Health is full of nonsense.

 

[edyle]

contents of article

By TN Department of Health

NASHVILLE, Tenn. – The Tennessee Department of Health today is issuing a public health advisory on electronic cigarettes and other electronic nicotine delivery systems. The advisory urges caution for consumers using or considering the use of electronic nicotine delivery systems, including electronic cigarettes and other electronic emissions-producing products. It also addresses concerns about secondhand exposures.

The advisory contains the following information users and potential users should consider:

 

[KjAthena]

wow how much BS can they pack into one "advisory"...I guess we now know

 

[Spazmelda]

"Significant unknowns" is that a new weasel phrase?! They should be so proud!

 

[Fulgurant]

"Significant unknowns" is that a new weasel phrase?! They should be so proud!

Unknown facts are significant until they become known, in which case they become tobacco-industry propaganda.

And seriously, formaldehyde? I didn't think even the most rabid ANTZ still had the gall to use that transparent canard in front of a halfway reasonable audience. My favorite, though, is how they keep trying to spin dual use as a bad thing, as it were proof that the evil e-cig entices people to start smoking, when the most obvious explanation is exactly the opposite. 2 + 2 equals what?

5, of course.

 

[vaperature]

This is the first time I've heard any claim that there is formaldehyde in e-cigs.

 

[edyle]

This is the first time I've heard any claim that there is formaldehyde in e-cigs.

The article does not state that there is formaldehyde in e-cigs.

It says:

•Emissions from electronic nicotine delivery products are not only water vapor. They can contain nicotine and other chemicals such as formaldehyde, propylene glycol, acetaldehyde, acrolein and tobacco-specific nitrosamines.

It does seem curious though that 'propylene glycol' is mentioned but not 'glycerin'.
Perhaps it was felt that 'propylene glycol' would sound toxic while 'glycerin' would not?

 

[2coils]

What really grinds my gears is the "we need more studies B.S. How many studies are needed to shut these people up?? The only lacking is ,the thirty plus year study. I am quite confident in the evidence presented to date, that I can make an informed decision, about my own life and health! Second hand vapor emissions have been debunked enough along with the other concerns.

 

[vaperature]

The article does not state that there is formaldehyde in e-cigs.

It says:


It does seem curious though that 'propylene glycol' is mentioned but not 'glycerin'.
Perhaps it was felt that 'propylene glycol' would sound toxic while 'glycerin' would not?

I'm sorry but I'm not following your distinction. If they aren't claiming that the formaldehyde are in the e-cigs, then how is the formaldehyde getting into the "emissions".

 

[edyle]

I'm sorry but I'm not following your distinction. If they aren't claiming that the formaldehyde are in the e-cigs, then how is the formaldehyde getting into the "emissions".

•Emissions from electronic nicotine delivery products are not only water vapor. They can contain nicotine and other chemicals such as formaldehyde, propylene glycol, acetaldehyde, acrolein and tobacco-specific nitrosamines.

Call it lawyerspeak if you will; maybe it's supposed to convey the impression (which seemed to pick up) that they claiming that ecigs DO contain formaldehyde.

However what it actually says is it CAN contain formaldehyde.

I personally tend to miss impressionisms in speech at first glance, instead picking out the literal meaning out of habit.

 

[vaperature]

Call it lawyerspeak if you will; maybe it's supposed to convey the impression (which seemed to pick up) that they claiming that ecigs DO contain formaldehyde.

However what it actually says is it CAN contain formaldehyde.

I personally tend to miss impressionisms in speech at first glance, instead picking out the literal meaning out of habit.

Ah, I see what you're saying. It's the word "can". Like, there "can" by anthrax in it, or there "can" be radioactive isotopes in it -- not that there is, just that there "can" be. But really, this is the first time I've even seen the word formaldehyde mentioned in relation to e-cigs. Where did THAT come from?

 

[edyle]

Ah, I see what you're saying. It's the word "can". Like, there "can" by anthrax in it, or there "can" be radioactive isotopes in it -- not that there is, just that there "can" be. But really, this is the first time I've even seen the word formaldehyde mentioned in relation to e-cigs. Where did THAT come from?

Yes I'm wondering that too; I suspect they just put it in there and the excuse would be that technically speaking ANYTHING "can" be in an eliquid, so you can't claim that its a lie.

 

[molimelight]

"Significant unknowns" is that a new weasel phrase?! They should be so proud!

Did someone say weasel?



"...cautions potential users to have conversations with their personal clinician about the impact to their individual health from inhaling emissions."

I did, he's the one who told me to start vaping!

I love the last part:

"The mission of the Tennessee Department of Health is to protect, promote and improve the health and prosperity of people in Tennessee."

Protecting people from vaping, but mountain top removal coal mining is A-OK...

 

[Nermal]

"Significant unknowns" is that a new weasel phrase?! They should be so proud!

Actually, after being so ignorant for so long, they should be embarrassed.

 

[Jake6731]

Actually, formaldehyde has been mentioned in at least one study, perhaps several. Dr Farsalinos just published a study that talks about formaldehyde found in these earlier studies. Safety evaluation and risk assessment of electronic cigarettes as tobacco cigarette substitutes: a systematic review

And a quote from a former WHO advisor David Sweanor, " to those who say we need to wait for more research I would point out the way they are proving Nietzsche correct – we take on the attributes of our enemies. Cigarette companies spent decades making spurious claims that we need ‘more research’ before we could move on policy measures, despite the already-existing basis for informed policy measures. They provide very poor role models."
http://www.ecigarettedirect.co.uk/interviews/david-sweanor-2.html

 

[sonicdsl]

There is formaldehyde in e-cig emissions, but such a minuscule amount to not be worth bringing up really. Not to mention that every living human being emits formaldehyde as well.

 

[Strangebrew]

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[pamdis]

There is formaldehyde in e-cig emissions, but such a minuscule amount to not be worth bringing up really. Not to mention that every living human being emits formaldehyde as well.

Yeah I remember a critique of this study where the comment was made "So the researcher is basically saying that it is dangerous to be in a room with anyone who is just breathing."