TNTcourier Delivering Janty accused me of being a drugdealer

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sarahjane said:
You might think this is funny, but I live in a council place, a neighbour overheard it. Tenancies can be ended over this kind of thing.
I don't even drink alcohol, much less take illegal drugs. Nicotine and sugar are my only vices.

It is hassle I don't need. I'm now scared about ordering from Ruyanxpress.nl in case it happens again.

I understand what you're saying quirky and you are right in that aspect, but please read her original quote again. This is not a quote from someone who is looking for laughs.
And this is not the first time trogg has laughed off something serious so I agree that he was being disrespectful.
 
sarahjane said:
I won't be updating you!
I don't see the point.

I would like to see an update please. I'm sure there are some others here who would like to be updated too. I'm really interested in how it comes out.

I live in the states and I have a few people who laugh off my njoy and call it a "crack pipe." Well, it might be funny to them, but what happens if I'm enjoying my e-cig and a police officer overhears and doesn't understand this technology and runs me in downtown and books me? If the e-cig was mainstream, I'd understand how this scenario sounds "paranoid", but our devices are NOT mainstream. And as it has been said many times in this forum, we are pioneers. We will be experiencing FIRST HAND every reaction, every side effect, etc of the electronic cigarette. IMO, The e-cig has not been thoroughly studied and we are the lab rats. We have to deal with it and this should be a place to talk about it without being laughed at.
 

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Whoa there! You sound stressed about where you live. That is understandable. But this is a public forum. You have to blow off the comments that you don't like. No one can know how their comments will affect another. But no one on this forum is PURPOSEFULLY hurtful. However, we are all human. Some humans have more finesse and are better spoken than others. I do believe there was even an apology or two.

As for myself - no, I was not being disrespectful. I use humor a lot. If you are offended by my humor that is a shame.
There is a difference between being disrespectful in a willful way and unintentionally crossing an invisible boundary.
I will apologize for crossing the boundary -but my comments and humor are NOT intentionally disrespectful.

I had prepared a long post telling about the unjust laws in the US. But I have a feeling you wont believe it anyway. The US is not a garden of eden. We are monitored everywhere also. Our property can be ceased with nothing more than the suspicion that our goods were bought with drug profits. We can be investigated by child protective services just because a neighbor does not like us.

There are drug dealers and junkies in the US also. Some live right on my block.

Anything more I have to say would just make you more ...... off. Thats too bad.
 

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I use humor a lot, too, as some of you might have noticed. But there is nothing funny about being humiliated in public by a delivery person. It was disgraceful conduct, with negative, possibly dangerous, consequences. I'm sure sarah just wants it all to disappear, rather than running to the media, who might shrug her off, or taking her case to a court somewhere, where potential embarrassment could get her booted out of her estate. Nothing funny at all in anything she posted. It was disgraceful and disgusting conduct. Good luck, Sarah. The good folks on this forum hope the best for you and your daughter.
 

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The UK is in a state of semi hysteria.. we have feral youths.. police that cant or wont do their job.. we have problems.. council estates get the brunt of the publicity..

i have lived on one for nearly forty years.. oddly the house i live in and have owned for over 25 years was a "police" house.. a policeman actually used to live in it and the one next door.. my how times have changed.. he he he

but the whole thing needs playing down.. keeping a low profile.. drugs have been so demonized in the eyes of the local inhabitants that rationality has gone out of the window.. they are simple people.. fags are still okay not fully demonized yet.. beer is okay.. anything else will arouse their suspicions..

do nothing to bring yourself to the attention of the "council" or the local asbos.. keep your head down.. trouble will only come your way if u dont..

i apologize for offending the innocent (in this case) but not those who deserve it.. i am quite often "disrespectful" i am also quite proud of the fact..

trog

ps.. and sometime when all else has failed a little wry humour is the only thing left..
 

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these things are gonna get attacked by all sides.. the anti smoking brigade wont like em.. (fake gun.. real gun).. the anti drug brigade wont like em either for the same reason.. law enforcement wont like em it simply makes their job harder..

a reality check is needed for those still bright eyed and bushy tailed amongst us..

expect opposition from all sides.. :D

trog

ps.. forgive them my son they know not what they do..
 

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Very valid point and I've meant to start an entire discussion on it. It is not accurate for sellers to say "these can be used anywhere smoking is prohibited." Says who? The law? No, it doesn't. A private business can set its own rules for something like this. The law, after all, doesn't ALLOW it. If a majority of customers object to smoking, that same majority can be expected to make a stink about someone sitting in an establishment and pretending to smoke by blowing vapor from a device that looks like a cigarette. And the owner will be within his rights to say "no smoking" or "get out." Owners now facing e-smoking for the first time are already saying just that. Be as friendly as you want, but you still won't be able to e-smoke unless you get special permission. Governments will be even tougher. Go ahead and e-puff in a courtroom during that boring trial. See what happens.

It is like the real gun, fake gun. If little Johnny in his Western boots wants to board an airplane with a marvelously detailed Colt 45 cap pistol strapped to his hip, what happens? The gun looks real enough. It makes bang-bang noises. You think he'll be allowed to take it on board and pretend to shoot people? How about a device that looks and performs like a prohibited cigarette? You think you can whip that out and start e-puffing? Dr. Loi has persuaded some airline crews to allow e-smoking on some flights. But it's certainly not policy -- and don't expect a welcome mat for a customer carrying an unusual electronic device, filled with liquid, with a button on the side! It's laughable to think you WON'T get very special attention .. and denial of the device.

Smoke anywhere? That's a pipe dream.

Now I've got to get to work on my newest invention. It's a capsule dispenser shaped like a Saturday night special. Seven capsules fill a special magazine clip that goes in the handle. You pull the trigger and one capsule pops out the barrel. Really neat, huh? I've never seen one, but it would be cool, right? But using it in public might be cause for pause, just like smoking a thing that looks like a prohibited object should cause a pause.
 

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TropicalBob said:
Now I've got to get to work on my newest invention. It's a capsule dispenser shaped like a Saturday night special. Seven capsules fill a special magazine clip that goes in the handle. You pull the trigger and one capsule pops out the barrel. Really neat, huh? I've never seen one, but it would be cool, right? But using it in public might be cause for pause, just like smoking a thing that looks like a prohibited object should cause a pause.

So instead of the pistol lighter, your making an E-pistol that produces vapor. AWESOME!! send me 2, and do you have the holsters that strap around the shoulders to conceal them?? I'll make a super outfit with cape and all. Super E-Vape-Man, i will boldy vape where no vaping has been done before.

I do hope that sarahjane keeps us updated, Almost everyone I've presented the ecig to, one of the questions that soonly follow about everytime "can you smoke weed with it" I just sigh and say NO!!!! I'm waiting for my day when a business owner or even the police start in with the use of ecigs. I'm still to paranoid to just vape away in any public place that smoking isn't allowed. I'll sneak some puffs here and there and I'm sure I'll get caught one of these times.. :cool:

Keep us posted SarahJane. Take care!!!
 
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