To all you KFL+ and Russian 91% owners.....

[lilstan]

Ok, so i know these are suppose to be the very similar rba's and it's been covered by tons of people on this forum, youtube and other forums. My question is: Is the draw the same on both? I have a EHpro KFL+ clone and my buddy have an authentic KFL (no ARF) and the draw is way too tight for my liking. Can you guys tell me if the Russian 91% is the same exact thing? I'm not sure if my KFL+ clone has a super tight draw because it's a clone or are they all like that. I even drilled it out and it's still too tight for my liking. Based on my research, the Russian 91% has 1.8-2mm air hole. I can tell you that my Ehpro KFL+ definitely does not that.

So, to all of you people that own both. Can you guys answer my question.

Thanks in advance.

 

[Topacka]

So, the kfl came first, then the designer left svoemesto and went and designed the r91, it's the same atty with adjustable airflow. Then svoemesto cloned that with the kfl+, adding adjustable airflow like the r91 has. I can't speak to the poor quality clones, but hcigar makes good clones and of course the originals are cream of the crop

 

[Kevin King]

i just bought a russian 91% clone at a local brick and mortar shop earlier today. $44. it was actually labeled as a "kayfun lite", but wen i got home and checked out fasttech i realized what it was. as far as the airhole goes, i am extremely satisfied. it adjusts very easily, not sure the exact sizes. im usually vaping with atleast 1.5mm airholes tho. i know i could have got it cheaper from fasttech, but i was with a friend and he just started vaping and asked me to come to help him out. so i gave in and bought it with some liquid. this is the first "kayfun" style rba ive used and im really impressed to say the least.

 

[lilstan]

i just bought a russian 91% clone at a local brick and mortar shop earlier today. $44. it was actually labeled as a "kayfun lite", but wen i got home and checked out fasttech i realized what it was. as far as the airhole goes, i am extremely satisfied. it adjusts very easily, not sure the exact sizes. im usually vaping with atleast 1.5mm airholes tho. i know i could have got it cheaper from fasttech, but i was with a friend and he just started vaping and asked me to come to help him out. so i gave in and bought it with some liquid. this is the first "kayfun" style rba ive used and im really impressed to say the least.

Would you say the draw is the same as your 1.5mm?

 

[Sthur]

I own the tobeco russian clone and I like it with the afc screw out and both holes open. Nice and airy, but that's what gives me the vest flavor and vape.

 

[TheReign]

Been using my KFL+ straight out of the box from EHpro and It's a Banger thats for sure. No complaints whatsoever, Only thing to compain about was my user error filling it too much and it leaked a little on me. Such a minor thing tho it's not even worth noting cause it was my error. Quickly fixed by chain vaping it a little bit.

 

[YuckMan]

I have the newer KFL+ that has the adjustable air flow, and the R91. They both have large range adjustments from completely closed to wide open. If draw is that important to you, and it's actually pretty important to the design as well, just make sure any you buy in the future has the adjustable air flow in the features list.

 

[shawnphase]

anybody know why its called the russian 91%? i never got that.

 

[Talyon]

anybody know why its called the russian 91%? i never got that.

I'll take a stab at it..... The maker is Russian, and it's close to the real McCoy like maybe 91% close?

OP, I'm assuming u have removed the air flow screw completely? And still to tight? Also assuming it has air flow control.

 

[JRZROB]

I've had the Tobeco Kayfun Lite Plus (+) for about two weeks and just ordered another one off Ebay (the only place I could find a few sellers with them) with the mini kit to go along with it. It has been working extremely well for a brand new 2014 clone. I was skeptical at first, but I'm very glad I got it and another on the way.

It has been updated with a nicer brushed SS finish, air flow control screw is on bottom (next to 510 connector), filler screw is now recessed a bit with an o-ring and the 510 connector is adjustable. And comes with all the extras like o-rings, screw driver, hex key, screws etc...

Works flawlessly for me!

 

[rodsky77]

Ok, so i know these are suppose to be the very similar RBA's and it's been covered by tons of people on this forum, youtube and other forums. My question is: Is the draw the same on both? I have a EHpro KFL+ clone and my buddy have an authentic KFL (no ARF) and the draw is way too tight for my liking. Can you guys tell me if the Russian 91% is the same exact thing? I'm not sure if my KFL+ clone has a super tight draw because it's a clone or are they all like that. I even drilled it out and it's still too tight for my liking. Based on my research, the Russian 91% has 1.8-2mm air hole. I can tell you that my Ehpro KFL+ definitely does not that.

So, to all of you people that own both. Can you guys answer my question.

Thanks in advance.

The KFL+ is a bit more airy than the original KFL. However if the original KFL is too tight a draw for you, the only thing that may be a lighter draw is a dripper with the air flow drilled out to your liking.

 

[scylla]

Make sure you take your bottom deck completely apart. I was cleaning my KFL+ clone after getting it and found the center post with the hole through the middle was clogged. Looked like plastic shavings from the isolators. I poked them out with a toothpick and get much better air flow (obviously).

 

[Bunnykiller]

the 2 are almost identical... you can even swap out parts from the coil deck up, but the difference is that the R91C has a restricted airflow due to the dia of the air flow tube in the + pin screw as compared to the KFC's

 

[Bunnykiller]

anybody know why its called the russian 91%? i never got that.

didnt hit the shift key? for version 5??

 

[lilstan]

I have the newer KFL+ that has the adjustable air flow, and the R91. They both have large range adjustments from completely closed to wide open. If draw is that important to you, and it's actually pretty important to the design as well, just make sure any you buy in the future has the adjustable air flow in the features list.

Yuckman,

I have a KFL+ w/ARF..... With that been said, can you tell me are the draws similar? Mean with both of them at wide open, are they the same?

 

[lilstan]

Talyon,

Yes the removed the screw completely and yes, I have AFC. It's still to tight for my liking. I'm use to dripping with a very free flowing air draw. Maybe this style tank just isn't for me.

 

[lilstan]

Make sure you take your bottom deck completely apart. I was cleaning my KFL+ clone after getting it and found the center post with the hole through the middle was clogged. Looked like plastic shavings from the isolators. I poked them out with a toothpick and get much better air flow (obviously).

I did that already when I was drilling out the air hole. I also drilled the holes out in the center pin as well. I'm beginning to think that the KFL+ is just not right for me.

 

[LEDBETTER122]

I have a EHPRO Kayfun lite+ and I have tried a Russian at my local vape shop and they are both Identical in my opinion (Vape experience wise). Now the Kayfun + does have a whistle too it (Which I don't mind, but some do).

I also think the Airflow is really good (I like the lung hit). Its probably the equivalent of a Kanger Mini Protank with all the holes drilled out to 1/16.

Now This is with the EHPRO, I dont know about the airflow on other clones or the original, but the one I have is all around a great RBA.

 

[Thunderball]

anybody know why its called the russian 91%? i never got that.

Its 91% the size of the original.

The full size 3.1 sold by FT (dont know who makes them) has the best airdraw...better than the original. Tobeccos have the least

Hcigar in the middle (like the original)

Havent owned the EHPro

 

[YuckMan]

Yuckman,

I have a KFL+ w/ARF..... With that been said, can you tell me are the draws similar? Mean with both of them at wide open, are they the same?

They are verry similar with the adjustment screws completely removed. I don't have the original drip tips on them though. The Kayfun tip does seem a bit tight.