I have a candy cane, a menthol, and a mint fruit blend that are just wonderful. The juice I'm talking about, the only way you would enjoy it is if you had no olfactory functions.
To Steep of Not To Steep: That is the question
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I have a candy cane, a menthol, and a mint fruit blend that are just wonderful. The juice I'm talking about, the only way you would enjoy it is if you had no olfactory functions.
Also keep in mind that pre-aging a liquid means it HSS to sit in inventory for a longer period of time with addition investment spent on sampling. This raises the price.
All good Whiskey is aged before it hits the shelves. Wine however almost always requires additional time on the rack.
Take for example a good Cuban Cigar (who am I kidding, they are all good). They are still aging when you receive them and often they start out with a 'green' taste to them and have little to no complexity. Put that Cuban in your humidor for six months and when you take it out, it may smell of ammonia. Let it sit another 6 to twelve months and it is smokeable. Let it sit two to three years and it is a sublime experience to smoke.
Pipe tobacco is similar. Some aging will help it is as well. Cigarettes are a different beast altogether and should not even be considered a real tobacco because of all the chemicals used. Think of liquid as you would a cigar and you are almost spot on.
I love a good Cuban cigar and I will miss those the most. I do not believe there is a mixologist out there that could recreate the subtle complexity of a Cuban Cohiba. If they could then I'd buy 500ml of it at a time. Lol
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Vendors should be the ones telling customers if additional steeping is necessary to do with a certain juice, if not they are doing themselves in ! That should be business 101...
But being a vapor for a little while now I have learned a little from my experience.
When I get some juice, ( it's usually 3 - 4 days after born on date) I will smell it to see if it smells like my order, if it does I'll vape it,
if not I will soak it hot water for a hour, take the cap off of it for a couple of hours if it smells of perfume or flowers, shake well and try a sample vape, if it doesn't vape right it gets a week worth of aging/steep, after that if it's off taste it goes to the hole in the bottom of the sink, along with possibly futures orders of that vender, there's far too many of them out there, to keep trying a fail..
( Tobacco's do take a longer steep time though)
Some vendors have their tricks or trade practices also. They may pre-make a flavor mix with a little pg/vg before hand in larger amounts, and it is steeping as we speak, then fill in the rest of the nic/pg/vg as it is ordered., and some will use a seed batch to hasten steeping..
So a lot of stuff will usually get to your in a steeped condition. jmoho---
What is a "seed batch".
If it came to paying $12 for some fantastic juice ready to put into my tank, or paying $6 for some crap I have to mess around with and wait for and cross my fingers that it's going to turn out good, I'd gladly pay the $12, actually.
A lot if people feel that way. That's why so many smoke cigarettes and so few smoke pipes or cigars. All I can say is, you can't miss what you never had, and that is probably s good thing because a good cigar or pipe tobacco isn't cheap.
I despise my phone's keyboard sometimes. Lol
Anyway, all that said. Cinnamon roll and sticky bun aged for just a few days. I doubt it will last another two weeks.
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I only had a real Cuban cigar once in my life and it was just FANTASTIC. I briefly had a humidor and had a few cigars but didn't have the patience and they weren't Cubans after all so that little wooden box just ended up being a coffee table ornament. LOL.
I only vape fruit flavors (usually,,,,there's the very rare exception),,,,,,and I mix them up and vape them within seconds. No steeping necessary (for my tastes)
Oops, It's Always Sunny In Philly is finally on. Now THEY should do an episode about vaping. That would be funny. I'm off. Thanks for the chat guys. I've learned a lot.
Unfortunately I have had hundreds. Lol. I was spoiled by them and when I closed my business for health reasons I had to give them up too.
A method of using an aged small batch of mixture, and inserting the newer "but same" ingredients into it. It will tend to quicken the steeping procedure. Like if you ever pickled up some hot peppers,pickles or olives, onions, spices and such, you occasionally add newer stuff to the already made batch, and they pick up the new flavors real quickly..
another poster about higher costs and such...
Some vendors who sell lots of the same mix will do this, I may be mistaken, and I could be, but MBV may do this, as they sell some of their popular juices as "flavors", as you buy can these as a "flavors" for the DIY crowd, you add your own pg/vg/nic.
With my DIY I have discovered how long something needs for the flavor to really develop varies by recipe.
My strawberry is fantastic immediately and the berry comes out more by the next day. It doesn't change much after that.
My Watermelon however barely tastes of watermelon until it has steeped a week.
My Banana cream pie (a complex recipe) when first made has a serious BITE to the banana. A week later it is smooth and delicious.
Anything I use Koolada in like my mint candy need at least 3 days for the cool sensation to really kick in.
What needs how long just varies by the blend in question I am afraid.
That said I did early in my vaping history buy 2 bottles of juice I never could vape. They were so perfumey that it gave me a 4 day headache and even with 2 months of steeping that never improved.
My strawberry is fantastic immediately and the berry comes out more by the next day. It doesn't change much after that.
My Watermelon however barely tastes of watermelon until it has steeped a week.
My Banana cream pie (a complex recipe) when first made has a serious BITE to the banana. A week later it is smooth and delicious.
Anything I use Koolada in like my mint candy need at least 3 days for the cool sensation to really kick in.
What needs how long just varies by the blend in question I am afraid.
That said I did early in my vaping history buy 2 bottles of juice I never could vape. They were so perfumey that it gave me a 4 day headache and even with 2 months of steeping that never improved.
You should probably send me some just so I know that you know exactly what I'm talking about.
While it can happen that a particular juice gets mixed with too much flavor it is a fairly uncommon occurrence if you bought your juice from any of the juice vendors that are popular on ECF. What is much more common is that some people perceive some mint flavors as menthols and vice versa.
You should never assume that a juice that tastes vile to you is not something that isn't someone else's ADV. One of the most popular mint juices from my favorite juice vendor tastes like a Vick's VaporRub explosion to me. There is no menthol in it. It's just the way my tastebuds process those particular mint flavorings.
People will disagree on what constitutes the correct steeping time for any particular juice before one even throws in the issue of different steeping times needed for different PG/VG ratios. Quite frankly, I would rather juice vendors keep steeping time recommendations somewhat ambiguous so as not to waste valuable time dealing with endless customer complaints from people who presume that their preferred steeping times are the One and Only True Way.
I just keep a good supply of juice on hand.... a couple of each of my favorites. This way they are aging while I'm finishing up a bottle that I'm using. Kinda like steeping without the wait.
Spearmint is one of my favorite flavors, too but I have a pre-filled carto with some in it that is just way too powerful & I really like stronger flavors. Also, if they used spearmint oil to make yours, it may never meld with the other ingredients. Many people don't like to use or buy the oil based flavors because of inhalation risks & I believe spearmint is one of the tank crackers. If you want to save this bottle, you could try to add a smidgen of vodka or everclear to it, shake every time you walk past it, and let sit for a couple days with the cap off. Alcohol should help break down the oil and allow it to blend with the PG/VG.
Throat hit also comes from PG, not only nicotine. I have been playing with DIY'g my own liquid and trying to find my perfect ratio of PG/VG because 80PG/20VG seemed to bite too much. I used 50/50 on my last batch and it's too smooth (1 coconut & 1 peppermint) so I will be adding straight PG to that batch today.
Yes, you could have gotten a bad bottle. Who ever mixed it could have just goofed up and hit it with a double blast of flavor or the flavor was separated and they didn't shake it before adding it to your bottle so you got all the oil and not the alcohol that was supposed to help it mix with other ingredients.
Throat hit also comes from PG, not only nicotine. I have been playing with DIY'g my own liquid and trying to find my perfect ratio of PG/VG because 80PG/20VG seemed to bite too much. I used 50/50 on my last batch and it's too smooth (1 coconut & 1 peppermint) so I will be adding straight PG to that batch today.
Yes, you could have gotten a bad bottle. Who ever mixed it could have just goofed up and hit it with a double blast of flavor or the flavor was separated and they didn't shake it before adding it to your bottle so you got all the oil and not the alcohol that was supposed to help it mix with other ingredients.
Ok, OK, already, It was Alien Vapor. STILL doubting that the juice was bad?
When one does business with a vendor whose business model is based ripping off Alien Vision's Bobo's Bounty one should not be surprised when one receives vile tasting juice. Personally, I would not trust anything from Alien Vapor enough to vape it.
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