Tobacco Flavor Help!!!

[Ghetto_Cowgirl]

I know, this almost belongs in the DIY forum but I have to share the quick reason I need a good flavor!

Hubby came in before, I said "I want a huggle!" Nice right? Then I smelt it....smoke. I got mad and slapped him, he said he just had a cigar and it was just a little. Psht, whatever. So he sent a message just a bit ago saying well maybe I should make him an e-cig flavor. Oh! Excited! He wants something similar to a Black & Mild. Well, crap, I have no idea what that flavor is like. So, out of what I have, what would be the best to mix together to get close to this flavor?? I also have other flavors if I should be mixing it in, like French vanilla or what not. Going to make just a 6ml bottle, I have the base already in it, just an amount of drops or what not you would think would bring me close to the flavor he wants.

I have:

PA -
tobacco Blend (Alc)
tobacco Flavor
DK tobacco Base

FA -
Cowboy Blend
Mellow Sunset

Seedman's Commercial

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

 

[BorisTheSpider]

I can speak a little about the PA tobaccos because I use those myself. The DK is supposed to be a lot like 555, but I haven't tried 555 to say whether it is. Personally, I don't like it (I can't say why, but it reminds me of hose water...). The Tobacco (Alc) is a tobacco absolute, based in alcohol. It's the same as the Tobacco (PG), but with an alcohol base instead of PG - which means it gives a little TH. I've been using the PG versionfor a while now to mix with other flavors for a flavor I'm going for. By itself, it's not an incredibly deep flavor so you'd have to add something to it in order to bring out some richness, like a real smoke would have. I've been experimenting with the PA Bourbon (Vanilla) and it's good too, but not incredibly rich. A lot of flavors have this problem - they add flavor, but it doesn't have that good, smokey feel to it. My current favorite is the PA Double Chocolate. It's not overly sweet or creamy, like you may expect from a chocolate flavor - rather, it's more...bitter I guess, kinda like dark chocolate. I typically vape it without other flavors and it's actually probably my favorite.

What I would suggest is using something that adds bitterness, or richness, like the Double Chocolate, as well as a vanilla flavor obviously (because B&M is a vanilla tobacco). Another suggestion is something I personally haven't tried but I think would do well based on the descriptions available - F'Art Vapor Wizard or F'Art Bitter Wizard. The Vape Wizard is supposed to remove tartness from the juice, giving it a more mellow, rich flavor while the Bitter Wizard is supposed to make it more bitter, which I think would be a similar effect. I have no idea how other various vanilla flavors act in a mix, so I can't really say what type of vanilla to use if you do go that route.

I would also consider cutting it with an alcohol, which increases TH, resembling a real smoke more. The formula I use is about 50% PG 48mg nic, 25% VG no nic, 5% alcohol, 20% flavor. That gives me a 24mg juice that is something like 66/33 PG/VG and gives good TH and flavor. The first hit of the day gives a really strong TH, but it gets much easier immediately after that - to where you feel it, but it doesn't make you want to cough. As for alcohol to use, a lot of people just go with a 100 proof vodka or everclear. I just use the strongest stuff I have on hand, which happens to be rum atm.

If you want, I can send you a small sample of the Double Chocolate flavoring - maybe 3oz. so you can start your trials there. I also have some other tobacco flavors I could probably send - stuff I don't personally like so much, but someone else may.

 

[keyzygirl]

Ive smoked Black and Mild flavored a few times.I mixed a Cuban cigar and vanilla,or Cuban and a dash of apple.

 

[Ghetto_Cowgirl]

Thank you muchly Boris for that offer! I would take it but he's a, need it 5 minutes ago, kind of guy. I had to mix something up super fast, Couple drops of the Tobacco Absolute, 1 drop Seedman's for the yukky ash taste, I think Mellow Sunset in there too. He thinks it's "OK" but yeah...going to have to take some of your advice and try and mix something up better. I'd do the Cuban Keyz but i don't have any on hand, though the vanilla, I didn't think to add that. He said he definitely does NOT want sweet lol so I have to watch it.

Thanks again!!

 

[Darkwitless]

GC: I have a 3 ml sample of 0mg bourbon cigar you are welcome to! It's very strong. Maybe to you could use it to punch up your DIY? Pure Vapes sent it with an order. It's just not my thing.

 

[REDDOG1]

not a black and mild but a nice sweet tobaco flavor i use as an all day vape is
10% pa blueberry extra
vaporrenu 555 24mg