Tobacco/Menthol redux

[BanjoMan]

Would love to hear some more user feedback on this one from those who vape it regularly. I wanted to post it here so Geoff could chime in too if he wants.

This has been my daily vape for about two months. I love the flavor too much to give it up, but I've had some issues with it and wanted to compare notes with other users.

I've been using this primarily in a 3.7v Bartleby with either a 901 or 510 atty. With a new or freshly cleaned atty this stuff is amazing, but within a few hours of heavy use the flavor and vapor drops off noticeably. After that I can get about 24 hours of "ok" use out of it before it becomes a lost cause.

My main concern is the number of attys I'm going through. Soaking alone will not do the job, and I've found that dry-burning is the only reliable way to bring the attys back. I've been as careful as possible using this method, but I still manage to lose about one atty a week - either during the burn or afterward in use. At first I thought I might have just had a bad parts shipment, but additional orders of Joye and DSE attys from Heaven-gifts have yielded the same results.

My theory is that heating these tobacco-based liquids results in a build-up on the coil not experienced with other flavors. After drying the atty I always get quite a bit of "smoke" during the dry-burn, which tells me that the soak and blow alone isn't getting much of the build-up off the coil.

I'd basically like to know two things from other users: 1) Have you had the same experience with this flavor, and 2) have you discovered a cleaning method that brings the atty back without doing a dry-burn.

Thanks in advance.

 

[namuch]

I guess I'm not crazy, I have the exact same problem with the tobacco flavor.

It is a fantastic flavor, and one of my favorites, but I was getting less than 1 day out of my 510 attys. Some of them would not come back even after dry burns. So, after nuking 5 attys over a week, I quit using my expensive 510's with it.

I finally relegated this juice to blank cartomizers. It doesn't taste as good as a 510 obviously, but the cartos seem able to handle it better.

 

[cfrazer]

Same thing here with the tobacco flavor, couldn't get the 510 to last more than a couple days, I have had good luck with 801's or cartomizers.

 

[Dudeman]

Same deal here. 2 510 attys the 1st week with the tobacco. Now I'll only use it in carto's. The funny part here is that I've used the same carto for a week and a half with the tobacco and it's still going strong. It hasn't become stained yet either like my attys did.

 

[BanjoMan]

Interesting observation about the cartomizers. I haven't tried them yet but I have to wonder why they seem to hold up better. Any ideas?

Are you guys using the KR808 Cartos, btw? I might have to order some and try them.

 

[whimzkool]

Yeah, I also put it in kr8 cartoz. I can't say I noticed a specific trend with the tobacco and the 510, but did lose a couple quickly (2-4 days) while vaping it. I wonder if plant oils are making the atty burn hotter?

 

[Dudeman]

Yeah, I also put it in kr8 cartoz. I can't say I noticed a specific trend with the tobacco and the 510, but did lose a couple quickly (2-4 days) while vaping it. I wonder if plant oils are making the atty burn hotter?

This is a good possibilty. I only drip with my 510 attys, so maybe the filler and the wrap around the coil in the cartoz prevent some parts of the liquid from getting on the coil? Maybe its just a slower process.

 

[ICP-Fan]

I've been vaping Tobacco Menthol for a week now and killed 2 901 attys on it so far. I really like the flavor though and it's almost worth the atomizer expense.

Tried in a cartomizer... Flavor not as good.

 

[UberDuper]

Which cartomizers are you guys using? I've found that all my juices taste better in a cartomizer. I've been told that the ones I'm using from ecigsupply are lower resistance then standard cartomizers so at 3.7v they're very much like standard cartomizers on 5v. The ones I have aren't really usable at 5v.

My problem with the cartomizers is that they get funky pretty quickly (within 4 or 5 refills) and require an alcohol soak much more frequently then my 510 atomizers did.

I haven't tried the TV tobacco so I can't comment on the issue the OP is having.

UD.

 

[BigJimW]

I heard that 510 attys tend to burn hotter than other atomizers, so this may be what is happening. I vape his stuff in 801 and 901 attys and have not had one fail yet.

I save my 510 atty for Atomic Cinnocide. You can never get the taste of it out.

 

[namuch]

The new cartos that ecigsupply is carrying are definitely the best i've had yet. Wonderful at 3.7v, but, there is still nothing that compares to a 510. I think it is the slight wetness of the vapor or something that really brings out all the notes of a juice. The cartos are dryer, and tend to whack you over the head with the prominent flavor, while usually suppressing other subtle flavors in the juice.

 

[cfrazer]

Interesting observation about the cartomizers. I haven't tried them yet but I have to wonder why they seem to hold up better. Any ideas?

Are you guys using the KR808 Cartos, btw? I might have to order some and try them.

Cartomizers from V4L is all i've tried and they work great and I cant kill them with my Xhaler and believe me i've tried. AS to why they hold up better - no clue except maybe the resistance is higher. The tobacco flavor is awesome with a 510 on my Xhaler, but I can't seem to make them last with the tobacco juice.

801 atty also works well and holds a ton of juice.