I'm blown away by the fact that I just took a good quality cigar, put it in a mason jar in a pot of hot not boiling water for 45 minutes with a 70 30 VG PG mix. Then I mixed it with ghost 24 mill nic juice, to end up with 60 mills of the best tasting tobacco juice in 7 years of vaping!!! It's clear and easy to filter too! It comes out 12 mills nic...perfect. A 7 dollar cigar flavors about 250 mills of juice. Not tribecca nor eclipse nor any good factory juice can compare to this. Not Bobas bounty. I know flavor is subjective, but? Live to vape..vape for life....