Using my tfv8 rebuildable deck I took some pre built mix twisted wires from demon killer and straightened them out by hand . I then wrapped them around a 1.4 mm screwdriver about 6 times I think. Set up a 4 coil build coming in at 0.10 ohms exactly . And oh my goodness, what the heck lol ! So much flavor it's like I'm drinking the wonder worm from charlies chalk dust I put in there. No juice in the mouth mind you , but it's as if I did. Just so so so much freaking flavor I actually swapped back to my other tfv8 with 2 coil clapton build. I'm pretty new to all this but I thought I had a good flavor build before , I was so very very wrong lol. So like I said too much flavor? Nahhh just gotta save that for the right juice I think .