Total n00b would appreciate some thoughts on this...

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Badgerangel

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Hi, y'all!
I've been researching e-cigs for a while, and couldn't make heads nor tails of the techy stuff. I looked through this forum, looked at reviews on YouTube, looked at online written reviews, and for the most part, I found lots and lots of paid reviews. But I had come to the conclusion that the only way for me, a pack to sometimes a pack and a half a day Marb. Lights smoker for 18 years, was to try these e-cig things.

I read reviews, watched vids, and basically fried my brain on it. Then I came with my husband on a business trip, and found a little shop that was selling something that wasn't an Njoy, which i was warned away from by the lady selling them in a gas station near my house -- she told me straight up that she'd only sold two kits, and both of them had been returned -- I thought I recognized the brand name from here, (mistook eGo for Go-Go) and seemed to be heavy enough that it might not fry within a day or two, and what the hey, you only live once, right? So I picked this kit up for $100.

Mobile Uploads pictures by badgerangyl - Photobucket

This kit came with two batteries, one of which is seen in the 4th photo, and two atomizers (one of which is seen in the 5th photo, though it is attached to the cartridge) and a wall charger and usb cord, and a dealie-bobber (in the sixth photo) that is screwed on over the cartridge/atomizer/battery joining.

The cartridges came with some sort of filler, pre-filled and wrapped in plastic, as seen in photograph three, and you can see the whole thing put together in photograph two. Also the entire kit, all together, is in photo #1. I'm concerned because it came with no directions, only a slip of paper warning me not to charge Joye 510s on the wall charger because it would fry them. I have no idea what size this battery is, I have no clue what kind of atomizers I have, what kind of cartridges I have...

Due to the lack of instructions or specs, I am posting the link to my photobucket account so that others who know more than I do can take a look and inform me. I will say that I am loving vaping, that these are working great, holding charge, and the only problems I've had are those typical of a n00b like myself -- overfilling the carts, overfilling the atomizers, which is easily taken care of. I'd just like to know what kind of batteries and what kind of atomizers these are so that I can order replacement parts BEFORE I need them and I'm a thousand miles away from the little shop I bought them at.

Thanks to all, and I really like this forum; you guys have been really welcoming, you have a real sense of community here, so this is pretty freakin' awesome.

BadgerAngel
 

Dalton63841

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That would be a Joye eGo. Very good ecig just so you know. It uses a 510 connection. Just look up Joye eGo and you will find stuff for it everywhere. It is a very popular model.

Looks like the standard 3.7v 650mAh battery. You can get 510 atomizers, either standard or low resistance, for it. Low resistance atomizers are a bit warmer, and most people prefer them because you get better vapor/flavor/throat hit at 3.7v. They will shorten your battery life a little though.
 
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It depends - it looks like an Ego or Riva type of model or some other clone.

However there are lots of those and they are not all 510 threaded.

Is your battery female? If so, it is may be 510 threading

Is your battery male? If so it may be 901 threading, or possibly KR808D-1 threading (very similar), less likely 801

However, if you bought Gogo, that is compatible with nothing. You need to buy Gogo stuff. I do not even know what sex Gogo is or how to tell if that is what you have.

Look closely at the metal collar around the threaded part of the battery - is any name etched into the outside of that? Like my Riva says Riva there.

Picture 5 - is that an atomizer (i.e. open top and if you look in your see a metal mesh bridge /\ ?) Or atomizer w/ dummy cart on it? Looks like 510 to me. If there is a line in the middle that that is a dummy cart on it - pull that straight off - do not twist carts. Dummy cart has no stuffing.

You need e-liquid. Did you buy eliquid? Prefilled carts don't have much juice in them.

And the atomizer is likely to have nasty primer on it - ejuice would help get that off. Those few prefilled carts will not last long vapor-wise but last near forever physically - can be refilled, washed/drying, restuffed, used a long time.

You can use a 510 drip tip on a 510 atty. You can also use 510 cartomizers (a recurring cost but they hold more juice than carts and need juice less often and do not need a separate atomizer). I loge the Boge cartos.

The Joye 510 instruction manual - very similar to the usage of fat-battery 510 models like what I think you have - they call the cartridge "inhaler"
http://www.thevaporpro.com/electronic-cigarette-instruction-manual/

You may have a cone part that is also an atomizer (so Ego attys are like that). Or it may just be a hollow cone (that is decorative and may add to the TH a bit by restricting airflow and keeping the coil warmer.

I am just guessing - make any sense? Seem to match reality?

Is you need to find local eliquid - try VaporSearchUSA.com
Else the web has lots and lots of good Eliquid vendors.
 
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Badgerangel

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It's not a Go-Go. The collar does not have a name, but the battery is female, I think; you mean that there is a socket that you screw the atomizers into, rather than the atomizer is screwed onto a plug that sticks out, right?

On the charger, it says

Model: Joye 510-308-PCC, so it is a Joye charger, at least. I'm confused that there would be a paper warning against trying to use it to charge a 510 battery in the kit, though, if it says 510 on the charger itself, so what battery would it be, then?

I figure it's an eGo clone, and that's why there were no specs or directions in the box.
Thanks to both of you for your responses!
 

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The cone shape atty is the exact same as I have on my ego. But then there's the straight atty that's the exact same as my standard 510 atty. The tip on the second picture looks more like from a riva and the battery shape is more riva looking to me. I thought egos were silver in the middle and rivas were gold? I'd guess it's a riva but I don't own one. Looks like it takes 510 type atties.
 

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Oh it is warning you about Joye 510's on the wall charger because the Joye 510 is a separate model, also made by Joye, but it is significantly smaller than the eGo.

Almost none of the kits come with instructions for use. Inhibiting for noobs I know, but they aren't terribly difficult to figure out, and if you have any questions, we are always here.
 
It depends - it looks like an Ego or Riva type of model or some other clone.

However there are lots of those and they are not all 510 threaded.

Is your battery female? If so, it is may be 510 threading

Is your battery male? If so it may be 901 threading, or possibly KR808D-1 threading (very similar), less likely 801

However, if you bought Gogo, that is compatible with nothing. You need to buy Gogo stuff. I do not even know what sex Gogo is or how to tell if that is what you have.

Look closely at the metal collar around the threaded part of the battery - is any name etched into the outside of that? Like my Riva says Riva there.

Picture 5 - is that an atomizer (i.e. open top and if you look in your see a metal mesh bridge /\ ?) Or atomizer w/ dummy cart on it? Looks like 510 to me. If there is a line in the middle that that is a dummy cart on it - pull that straight off - do not twist carts. Dummy cart has no stuffing.

You need e-liquid. Did you buy eliquid? Prefilled carts don't have much juice in them.

And the atomizer is likely to have nasty primer on it - ejuice would help get that off. Those few prefilled carts will not last long vapor-wise but last near forever physically - can be refilled, washed/drying, restuffed, used a long time.

You can use a 510 drip tip on a 510 atty. You can also use 510 cartomizers (a recurring cost but they hold more juice than carts and need juice less often and do not need a separate atomizer). I loge the Boge cartos.

Yeah, I bought a couple bottles of juice at the store. Both tobacco flavored. I already have two orders of juice in, taken from recommendations made here, one of four from Mrs. T.

I was an idiot and didn't take a separate pic of the atomizer, so that is a pic of the atomizer with the cart on it. Speak more to me of these "cartomizers", if you would please. I've come across references to them here, there, and everywhere, but I'm not sure exactly what they are.
 

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It's an eGo. 510 connection. I highly recommend you try some Boge LR cartomizers for it. Those new dual-coil cartos are pretty nice too. You paid a little too much for it but that's better than ending up with some obscure piece of hardware that isn't compatible with anything. With your 510 connection the options are nearly endless :)
 
Oh it is warning you about Joye 510's on the wall charger because the Joye 510 is a separate model, also made by Joye, but it is significantly smaller than the eGo.

Almost none of the kits come with instructions for use. Inhibiting for noobs I know, but they aren't terribly difficult to figure out, and if you have any questions, we are always here.

Okay! NOW I get it!! Thank you so much, Dalton!
I do think it would be helpful if they'd just include a little slip that says, "Your battery is such-and-such, your atomizers are 510s", or something like that.
 

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Yeah, I bought a couple bottles of juice at the store. Both tobacco flavored. I already have two orders of juice in, taken from recommendations made here, one of four from Mrs. T.

I was an idiot and didn't take a separate pic of the atomizer, so that is a pic of the atomizer with the cart on it. Speak more to me of these "cartomizers", if you would please. I've come across references to them here, there, and everywhere, but I'm not sure exactly what they are.
A cartomizer has the cartridge and atomizer made into one single, more compact peice. Alot of people prefer them for the use till dry and replace ease of use. Some do refill them though. There are plenty of tutorials on it.
 

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I'm at work on a 15-year-old computer that can only have 512mg of memory - I could not zoom the photos. I did eventually get to that atomizer one. I couldn't read the text.

Read that 510 manual I linked you - it works similarly - it just doesn't help much as far as adding liquid to carts etc.

When vaping you can press the button in a bit before the start of your drag, drag slow, let up the button slightly before the end of the drag, finish the drag, then inhale

Eliquid - you keep the cart damp but not a puddle.

Cartomizers provide a bit more analog-like experience - hold 2x the juice and need juice added less often. I like Boge cartomizers and Ego can use the standard reisstance or the hotter LR ones that use battery charge faster. They are a recurring expense though - hard to impossible to clean, work well 4-14 days if you don't singe them, sometimes longer. I get best life with thin (20% VG or less) juices.


VaporSearchUSA.com to look for local eliquid else hit the web - FreedomSmokeUSA & Backwoods Brew are good places to find tobacco juices and others. Tasty Vapor, PureVapes, Juicy Vapor are some other interesting places. For cheap Chinese juice see LiteCigUSA.net for small bottles, Madvapes for large bottles (recommend you try small bottle first). Liberty Flights PG juices may also be Chinese. Sign up at Gourmet Vapor so you'll get email when they have a sale (infrequent very good sales).

PG - thin, lets through the most TH & irritation of nicotine, the most flavor, makes weak visible vapor
VG - thick, dulls/smooths TH, irritation, flavors, and adds thicker more persistent vapor

Many people like blends. I like high VG blends like 70pg/30vg or 80pg/20vg. SOme people prefer more VG or even all VG
 
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