Trends- no smoking becomes no tobacco

[rothenbj]

Believe me, if that amount was detected in 2nd hand vapor it would be considered a very significant amount.

OT, Hey Crump, a good doggie orthodontist could straight out that under-bite in no time. I just had to mention it since I had a dentist appointment last week and the hygienist was talking about her dogs teeth problems. Her vet suggested an orthodontist and the vision I got in my mind was priceless.

 

[pianoguy]

Kinda like here, in Colorado, where a guy plea-bargained a deal yesterday that he had a car accident (hitting a bicyclist)because of the "new car smell" of his Mercedes. Hmmmm. Severe nic-fits would be much more plausible.

I had to look that up - wow, just wow! Un-freaking-believable.

 

[Crumpet]

OT, Hey Crump, a good doggie orthodontist could straight out that under-bite in no time. I just had to mention it since I had a dentist appointment last week and the hygienist was talking about her dogs teeth problems. Her vet suggested an orthodontist and the vision I got in my mind was priceless.

Ha! Thanks, but her lower jaw is literally longer than her upper jaw. She is half ....zu and half miniature pinscher. Her underbite makes her unique and adds to her cuteness (a mother's opinion)!

 

[FreakyStylie]

Ha! Thanks, but her lower jaw is literally longer than her upper jaw. She is half ....zu and half miniature pinscher. Her underbite makes her unique and adds to her cuteness (a mother's opinion)!

Did the forum filter edit the ....zu? If so,

EDIT: It did.

 

[Dandith]

"John Spartan, you are fined one credit for a violation of the Verbal Morality Statute. "

Demolition Man (1993) - IMDb

 

[FreakyStylie]

"John Spartan, you are fined one credit for a violation of the Verbal Morality Statute. "

Demolition Man (1993) - IMDb

I love how he gets "real" toilet paper in that movie!

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It just hit me, I was walking through Oregon State about a month ago, and was vaping . . . maybe that's why I was getting weird looks.

 

[kpax]

While anti-tobacco/nicotine extremists (whose goal is to eliminate all tobacco/nicotine users, products and companies) now control many health organizations and public health agencies, the public is becoming increasingly aware of and opposed to their extremist policies, and the pendulum is now swinging the other way (thanks largely to e-cigarettes, e-cigarette consumer advocates, and the successful e-cigarette litigation against the FDA).

The American Cancer Society is extremely powerful. I have a coworker with a close relative that works for them and I frankly think they do nothing. She makes QUITE a good living but that shouldn't be surprising considering most of their overhead goes to salaries. from wikipedia:

American Cancer Society - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In 1995, the Arizona chapter of the American Cancer Society was targeted for its extremely high overhead. Two economists, James Bennett and Thomas DiLorenzo, issued a report analyzing the chapter's own financial statements and demonstrating that it uses about 95% of its donations for paying salaries and other overhead costs, resulting in a 22 to 1 ratio of overhead to actual money spent on the cause. The report also found that the Arizona chapter's annual report had grossly misrepresented the amount of money spent on patient services, inflating it by more than a factor of 10. The American Cancer Society responded by alleging that the two economists issuing the report were working for and receiving pay-offs from the tobacco industry, but did not offer any evidence to support these claims.[14]

Long before the problem with overhead in the Arizona chapter was exposed, the decentralized nature of the ACS was pointed to as a problem in cutting down overhead costs in local branches: central managers have little control over local chapters, which are run by independent boards, and are reluctant to pressure the boards as they receive funding from the local chapters. The ACS did move from New York City to Atlanta to reduce overhead costs of the central part of the organization.[15]

The ACS has still had a number of criticisms leveled towards its high executive salaries. According to Charity Navigator, the Deputy CEO of the ACS makes $1,027,306 a year, and the CEO makes $685,884 a year.

( I am sure many here are aware of this fact but I posted it anyway as it so frustrating when I know someone who works for this org and "I" as a 24 yr smoker am healthier than someone who is employed there)

 

[Vocalek]

The ACS has still had a number of criticisms leveled towards its high executive salaries. According to Charity Navigator, the Deputy CEO of the ACS makes $1,027,306 a year, and the CEO makes $685,884 a year.

( I am sure many here are aware of this fact but I posted it anyway as it so frustrating when I know someone who works for this org and "I" as a 24 yr smoker am healthier than someone who is employed there)

Why does the Deputy CEO make so much more thanb the CEO?

 

[kpax]

Why does the Deputy CEO make so much more thanb the CEO?

According to this article his salary is higher due to deferred compesnsation from a supplemental retirement plan.

John Seffrin, American Cancer Society CEO: $1,045,887 | Atlanta Unfiltered

These large salaries cause quite an outrage as can be seen posted in the comments section of link I provided. Many people volunteer and collect donations from friends and family for programs like Relay For Life and it is very disheartening to see salaries in this range for a non profit. I know they are CEO's but still.....

I also want to note that the ACS is not the only non profit with this overhead problem. People need to research before they donate.

 

[Vocalek]

Even if ACS managed their money better, I would not be interested in donating now that I know they are much more concerned with power and protecting Big Pharma than they are about whether I live or die. The same goes for the AHA and the ALA. To think that I once paid the Lung Association money for the privilege of attending their Freedom from Smoking course.

Their course didn't work, nor did all the FDA-approved treatments, nor did hypnosis, cold turkey, and OTC products. We finally found something that does work, write to tell them about it, and they just keep responding with standardized drivel.

 

[o4_srt]

The nicotine amounts in those types of plants are in the nanogram range or 1/1,000th of a milligram.
So while potatoes and such do contain nicotine it is an insignificant amount.

try 4.5 micrograms per kilogram of potatos, and 831 micrograms per kilogram (wet weight) in darjeeling tea

New Zealand/Australia food study

 

[trying]

ratios-
micrograms per kilogram is equal to nanograms per gram.

 

[o4_srt]

ratios-
micrograms per kilogram is equal to nanograms per gram.

there was no ratio in your post, just a number. numbers without context are useless.