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[oldbroad]

My brother, who was analog-free for 10 months, has gone back to smoking. He says that the ecigs don't work when he's fishing, or snowmobiling...generally when he's outside...I don't know if that's true, but I hate seeing him smoking again. He also says that the " throat hit" is difficult to achieve lately. I've had the same problem for about a month. Originally I blamed it on the unusually hot, humid summer ( i live in Mi.) And I've had to wipe off the atty and batty threads frequently every day for about the past month, which I didn't do at all for the first 10 months that I'd been analog-free. I'm close to a year without having to use analogs. Any one have any answers?
By the way, we've both switched companies for the eliquid.Perhaps that's the reason for low throat hit?

 

[Java_Az]

More PG less VG is supposed to give more of a throat hit. Personally i cant get a throat hit vaping if i take a drag like i used to smoke. I would take the smoke into my mouth then inhale. But from reading in here if you take the vape directly into your lung you will get a throat hit. Works for me, but i still cant really vape like that i guess 25 years of smoking like did has me set in my ways. What does the trick for me is using LR atties or vaping regular atties @ 5 volts. Seems to be the only way i can get a good draw that satisfies me. Hope this helps

 

[mianker]

Gee I'm so sorry to hear you and your brother are both having difficulty staying away from analogs. when did you switch the vendor for your e-liquid? If it was about the same time you and your brother found vaping less satisfying I would try going back to my original fluid vendor and seeing if that helps. If this was about the same time you had to "wipe off the atty and batty threads frequently every day" I would look at the e-liquid as a possiblre cause for that also. I don't think it is the humidity as I live in the deep south and deal with really high humidty with no need to wipe threads unless I accidently drip juice soomewhere or overfill. You don't say what mg nic you are currently using but you may need to increase the nic. You were so sucessful for so long that it seems there must be something lacking and the culprit could be the e-liquid.

 

[oldbroad]

First, thanks for responding.We switched vendors about six weeks ago. Unfortunately for me, I have over 300 mls. of juice ( stocking up in case our erstwhile gov't bans our ecigs)We use 24 mg, down from originally 36mgs. I have some juice from a friend who ordered reg. tobacco flavor by mistake...she uses menthol..so I'm trying that as of today, to see if that's the problem with difficult to achieve throat hits. Tho I still don't understand the need to have to wipe off the threads so often...by the way, I haven't gone back to analogs, hope I NEVER have to!... that's why I'm trying to figure out what's gone wrong lately!

 

[rosesense]

Are your attys fairly new? I find they diminish over time so I use a new one when I start having problems. Good luck in figuring it out. You could sell your liquid on the classifieds and go back to your usual vendor.

 

[VPDownunder]

He wants a juice feeder like the Ali'i for out and about, as for TH a higher PG content and a flavor like cinnamon menthol (sold as Fire & Ice by some companies) should fix that problem.

 

[SimpleSins]

My brother, who was analog-free for 10 months, has gone back to smoking. He says that the ecigs don't work when he's fishing, or snowmobiling...generally when he's outside...I don't know if that's true, but I hate seeing him smoking again. He also says that the " throat hit" is difficult to achieve lately. I've had the same problem for about a month. Originally I blamed it on the unusually hot, humid summer ( i live in Mi.) And I've had to wipe off the atty and batty threads frequently every day for about the past month, which I didn't do at all for the first 10 months that I'd been analog-free. I'm close to a year without having to use analogs. Any one have any answers?
By the way, we've both switched companies for the eliquid.Perhaps that's the reason for low throat hit?

It does sound as though the juice change may be an issue. You may have gone from something with a higher level of PG than the prior supplier, which is thinner than the VG and if you're using it in the way you had gotten used to, it's possible you're flooding it. I've also had humidity here, but have not noticed that I had to wipe mine down unless I was a little too generous when I refilled the cart or carto.

You don't mention what type of equipment you're using, but it could be that your brother would like one of the 'rugged' mods out there, which apparently can take a little more roughing up than an eGo with extremely long battery life. As someone mentioned, the Ali'i, a beautifully crafted wood PV, has a juice feeder which would make it convenient for day long outdoor adventures, and the Reo, which also has a juice feeder, is gearing up to bring out a metallic one if I recall correctly.

There are a lot of options to try and get things back on track if you, but the cheapest and easiest might be trying your original juice which had been successful for you.

 

[coffee344]

E-cig doesn't work when fishing? I spent 12 hours fishing today, and I was damn grateful to not have to worry about burning my line, or the fish, or myself, with a cigarette! Caught a fish? No prob! Put the PV in the pocket, unhook the fish, continue vaping. No searching for a lighter, or the pack, oh crap is that it floating in the water, you get the idea. So the whole "doesn't work while fishing" thing sounds like an excuse to me. It works better while fishing, IMO. It works better all around. If he isn't satisfied with the juice, perhaps he is coming up with excuses to smoke so he is satisfied, instead of just saying, "Hey, this isn't working, let's try something different." I don't know him though so I could be off base, but vaping and fishing is a far better combination than smoking and fishing if you ask me.

 

[wv2win]

I thought it was well known that increased throat hit is a product of nic strength and voltage. You can stay at 24 mg nic strength and get great throat hit by just switching to a 5 volt PV.

 

[CaptJay]

Yeah up your voltage and see if it helps - I have the feeling that my throat is getting blown out on higher voltages never mind TH lol Thats why there's some of my juices that cannot be vaped (by me at least) at high votlage - holy crap (as achmed might say)

 

[SimpleSins]

I thought it was well known that increased throat hit is a product of nic strength and voltage. You can stay at 24 mg nic strength and get great throat hit by just switching to a 5 volt PV.

I personally did not experience that. I had more of a "chest" hit from the warmer and increased vapor without noticing an increase in the throat hit. And while 0 nicotine juice does not pack much of a throat hit (unless it's been 'cut' a bit with PGA), several people have said that they haven't noticed an appreciable difference in throat hit between their 12 mg and 24 mg. I can't say for sure because I don't strive for a throat hit anyway, and have since I started weaned down to 6 mg nic and only use my 5V equipment sporadically at best.

 

[wv2win]

I personally did not experience that. I had more of a "chest" hit from the warmer and increased vapor without noticing an increase in the throat hit. And while 0 nicotine juice does not pack much of a throat hit (unless it's been 'cut' a bit with PGA), several people have said that they haven't noticed an appreciable difference in throat hit between their 12 mg and 24 mg. I can't say for sure because I don't strive for a throat hit anyway, and have since I started weaned down to 6 mg nic and only use my 5V equipment sporadically at best.

You are definitely the exception to the rule based on the thousand of posts I have read on this forum as well as my own experience. It's not a coincidence that suppliers of 5 volt PV's have grown significantly in the last year. By and large, they provide a longer lasting, more consistent vape with better throat hit.

 

[oldbroad]

we use the EGO with regular atties...I don't know if the attys are 5volt. The juice is vg. I found the pg to leave a sweet after taste, so I switched to the vg. I've been swiching off and on to the regular batteries and the extra long ones, and I've also used the mega attys lately. No differences in the throat hit. The black gunk on the threads of the attys and bats are what I don't understand after all these months of not seeing that stuff. I also use the blue foam filler. I've been using the new attys and eGo batts since this problem started,... no difference in the th.

 

[SimpleSins]

we use the EGO with regular atties...I don't know if the attys are 5volt. The juice is vg. I found the pg to leave a sweet after taste, so I switched to the vg. I've been swiching off and on to the regular batteries and the extra long ones, and I've also used the mega attys lately. No differences in the throat hit. The black gunk on the threads of the attys and bats are what I don't understand after all these months of not seeing that stuff. I also use the blue foam filler. I've been using the new attys and eGo batts since this problem started,... no difference in the th.

Usually the difference is the other way around. The VG is usually much sweeter than the PG. The switch to VG could explain your loss of throat hit. PG is the component that lends to throat hit and VG to the vapor. Most people say that the VG flavors are not as strong as the PG or PG/VG blends, either. You might try one of the blends, 80/20 or 70/30 PG/VG and see if you regain your throat hit without losing too much of what I presume would be huge clouds of vapor. Also, because the VG is so much thicker than PG, some people have said they have a little more trouble with it wicking, and you might have some of that going on, too. If you can get your hands on some Everclear or vodka, you could try adding a drop or two to some of a juice you like. It will thin it enough to vape better and should give you back some of your throat hit.

 

[ShannonS]

Take a look: YouTube - DIY Throat hit with Cayenne Pepper extract

 

[smokum]

Try ordering a LR (low resistance) atomizer to up your "wattage" to produce a warmer harder TH that will mimic a higher voltage device. It's really all about the "wattage" and not the voltage when it comes to heat.

-Greg