Trying really hard to not buy cigarettes

[vapenoob22]

I've been vaping for approximately 2 1/2 weeks and the first week or so was absolutely great... then some things have occurred that have caused me to doubt this "healthier" alternative.

I smoked for about 15 years, about a pack a day for the majority of that time. Smoked all kinds of cigarettes in different strengths. When I started vaping they shop recommended a 9mg liquid since the device I started with would allow me take in far more vapor than a typical beginner might. I quickly moved down to 6 mg to allow for morevaping and on average the mls I vape on a daily basis ranges from 3-5 mls.

Onto the issues.... first, a few days ago I started to get severely dizzy. It would feel almost as if I was on a stopping elevator and I would get really light headed. Over the next day or so it was less severe but still occurring. I am drinking a ton of water, I assure you.

Another issue I am having is my hands and feet get severely cold, almost like ice which is rather annoying. Drinking the water almost seems to make this issue worse.

And now, last night I am getting leg, rib and arm/wrist cramps. Again, I am drinking ample amounts of water which is an apparent solution to this issue as well. Additionally my chest feels tight and feel like my breathing has become shallower. My sinuses are terrible and my head is always tingly.

I had none of these issues when smoking analogs and now I am just wanting to say screw it and go buy a pack

 

[Tonkpils]

Try cutting down to 3mg, the dizziness is for defiantly from over doing the nicotine, could be contributing to the other effects as well.

 

[ReigntheGamer]

I'm no doctor but an estimate, how much water are you drinking a day? And have you altered your water intake because you read vaping dehydrates you?

I didn't alter my water intake at all when I started vaping and have had a few blood tests since then with no evidence of dehydration. I'm not saying some people may have issues but I think the issue is greatly over exaggerated.

 

[Robino1]

I've been vaping for approximately 2 1/2 weeks and the first week or so was absolutely great... then some things have occurred that have caused me to doubt this "healthier" alternative.

I smoked for about 15 years, about a pack a day for the majority of that time. Smoked all kinds of cigarettes in different strengths. When I started vaping they shop recommended a 9mg liquid since the device I started with would allow me take in far more vapor than a typical beginner might. I quickly moved down to 6 mg to allow for morevaping and on average the mls I vape on a daily basis ranges from 3-5 mls.

Onto the issues.... first, a few days ago I started to get severely dizzy. It would feel almost as if I was on a stopping elevator and I would get really light headed. Over the next day or so it was less severe but still occurring. I am drinking a ton of water, I assure you.

Another issue I am having is my hands and feet get severely cold, almost like ice which is rather annoying. Drinking the water almost seems to make this issue worse.

And now, last night I am getting leg, rib and arm/wrist cramps. Again, I am drinking ample amounts of water which is an apparent solution to this issue as well. Additionally my chest feels tight and feel like my breathing has become shallower. My sinuses are terrible and my head is always tingly.

I had none of these issues when smoking analogs and now I am just wanting to say screw it and go buy a pack

I'm not sure what symptoms are totally from quitting smoking but this article should help you decipher some things:

A list of symptoms when quitting tobacco and changing to an ecigarette

Please read to see if some of your symptoms may be caused by stopping smoking.

 

[vapenoob22]

Try cutting down to 3mg, the dizziness is for defiantly from over doing the nicotine, could be contributing to the other effects as well.

Realistically though, given how much and how long I've smoked, how often do you hear about people going to 3mg nearly immediately? Isn't that almost the last rung on the ladder to being completely nicotine free lol?

 

[Robino1]

Realistically though, given how much and how long I've smoked, how often do you hear about people going to 3mg nearly immediately? Isn't that almost the last rung on the ladder to being completely nicotine free lol?

Pretty much. Depends on your setup that you use to vape with though. If you are sub-ohming, you will be getting more nic because you are inhaling more vapor.

What device are you using?

 

[Cicatrize]

Realistically though, given how much and how long I've smoked, how often do you hear about people going to 3mg nearly immediately? Isn't that almost the last rung on the ladder to being completely nicotine free lol?

That is entirely dependent on your setup. If you're running, let's say, a 0.2 ohm coil at 125W, then no, 3mg is plenty. It's not as easy to gauge what's "enough" nicotine content as it once was, given the vast differences in setups.

I run 6mg in a 1 ohm setup at 16W, and it's good enough for me. When I started on 901's and 510's, I ran 18-24mg on those and it wasn't a huge deal. I think I'd die if I put that stuff in my cotton now.

 

[vapenoob22]

I'm no doctor but an estimate, how much water are you drinking a day? And have you altered your water intake because you read vaping dehydrates you?

I didn't alter my water intake at all when I started vaping and have had a few blood tests since then with no evidence of dehydration. I'm not saying some people may have issues but I think the issue is greatly over exaggerated.

I actually very rarely drank water at all haha, I was more of a Mountain Dew kind of guy. When I started vaping I made the switch to nothing but water and drink about 60-80 ounces of it a day now...

 

[vapenoob22]

Pretty much. Depends on your setup that you use to vape with though. If you are sub-ohming, you will be getting more nic because you are inhaling more vapor.

What device are you using?

It's an istick40w with .5 ohm coils running at 30 watts.

 

[herb]

What you are experiencing is not uncommon at all actually , you are going through the most difficult time in switching to a healthier alternative is all .

I also felt deathly ill when i was trying to figure out what mg nicotine was right for me in the beginning , many times i found myself on the floor or laying in bed sweating and feeling like the world was coming to an end and i swore off e cigs when i was going through it.

Well , i didn't give up because i knew real cigs were much much worse so i lowered the nic content in my juice and took less powerful inhales on the e cig .

The key for me was taking a couple inhales and then putting the e cig down and i waited for a couple minutes , that worked .

When you are unsure what mg nic is right in the beginning you tend to over do the vaping and get ill , take a few inhales and wait it out , i found that two inhales worked perfectly but i didn't notice the effects till a few minutes after i took those hits .

The worst thing you can do is keep hitting the e cig and only stopping when you start to feel ill , you really over did it at that point .

 

[ReigntheGamer]

I actually very rarely drank water at all haha, I was more of a Mountain Dew kind of guy. When I started vaping I made the switch to nothing but water and drink about 60-80 ounces of it a day now...

I wasn't a water drinker either, but that amount doesn't seem like too much. In fact that's about as much as I can stand in a day.

 

[edyle]

It's an istick40w with .5 ohm coils running at 30 watts.

watts and nicotine strength go togehter.
for 30 watts, 3mg/ml falls in the common ballpark.

6mg i wouldn't thing is too strong, but maybe frequent heavy breathing is contributing to your symptoms.

 

[Tonkpils]

Realistically though, given how much and how long I've smoked, how often do you hear about people going to 3mg nearly immediately? Isn't that almost the last rung on the ladder to being completely nicotine free lol?

No there are lower doses available such as 1.5mg. The set ups out there now produce a lot more vapor than even a year ago and thus a less concentrated nicotine solution is needed. Headaches are the first sign of too much nicotine, and if your experiencing it its definalty the case, either vape less of 6mg or switch to 3 mg.

 

[Stinkytofus]

I've been vaping for approximately 2 1/2 weeks and the first week or so was absolutely great... then some things have occurred that have caused me to doubt this "healthier" alternative.

I smoked for about 15 years, about a pack a day for the majority of that time. Smoked all kinds of cigarettes in different strengths. When I started vaping they shop recommended a 9mg liquid since the device I started with would allow me take in far more vapor than a typical beginner might. I quickly moved down to 6 mg to allow for morevaping and on average the mls I vape on a daily basis ranges from 3-5 mls.

Onto the issues.... first, a few days ago I started to get severely dizzy. It would feel almost as if I was on a stopping elevator and I would get really light headed. Over the next day or so it was less severe but still occurring. I am drinking a ton of water, I assure you.

Another issue I am having is my hands and feet get severely cold, almost like ice which is rather annoying. Drinking the water almost seems to make this issue worse.

And now, last night I am getting leg, rib and arm/wrist cramps. Again, I am drinking ample amounts of water which is an apparent solution to this issue as well. Additionally my chest feels tight and feel like my breathing has become shallower. My sinuses are terrible and my head is always tingly.

I had none of these issues when smoking analogs and now I am just wanting to say screw it and go buy a pack

Too much nic try 3 mg or none

 

[Lannie]

It's an istick40w with .5 ohm coils running at 30 watts.

That's exactly what I run - .5 ohm coils at 30 watts (different mod, though) and I can't take more than 1 or 1.5 mg nic without getting dizzy and nic-sick. I smoked two packs a day for over 40 years. 3 mg nic on that setup might be "common" to a lot of people, but maybe not to you. Certainly not for me. Try lowering your nic level, or get some zero nic juice in a second tank and switch back and forth, to even out your nicotine intake, and see if that helps at all. Even at 1 mg nic juice, I have have to switch to zero in the afternoon and evening, or I can't sleep at night. Some people are more sensitive than others.

 

[crxess]

I've been vaping for approximately 2 1/2 weeks and the first week or so was absolutely great... then some things have occurred that have caused me to doubt this "healthier" alternative.

I smoked for about 15 years, about a pack a day for the majority of that time. Smoked all kinds of cigarettes in different strengths. When I started vaping they shop recommended a 9mg liquid since the device I started with would allow me take in far more vapor than a typical beginner might. I quickly moved down to 6 mg to allow for morevaping and on average the mls I vape on a daily basis ranges from 3-5 mls.

Onto the issues.... first, a few days ago I started to get severely dizzy. It would feel almost as if I was on a stopping elevator and I would get really light headed. Over the next day or so it was less severe but still occurring. I am drinking a ton of water, I assure you.

Another issue I am having is my hands and feet get severely cold, almost like ice which is rather annoying. Drinking the water almost seems to make this issue worse.

And now, last night I am getting leg, rib and arm/wrist cramps. Again, I am drinking ample amounts of water which is an apparent solution to this issue as well. Additionally my chest feels tight and feel like my breathing has become shallower. My sinuses are terrible and my head is always tingly.

I had none of these issues when smoking analogs and now I am just wanting to say screw it and go buy a pack

Sounds like you are getting the Flu.

See your Practitioner - Doctor

Your Body is purging and your Immune system may be a bit wonky this early in your transition to Vaping. Everything in your body is reawakening to what it Should be doing.

Your Desire to feel better is, at this point misleading. If indeed you are simply getting Naturally ill(Flu), Smoking will NOT fix that.

Be safe, see someone and Best of luck!

45yr Smoker, 4 years Free and Never Looking back!

 

[blackstarvape]

I've been vaping for approximately 2 1/2 weeks and the first week or so was absolutely great... then some things have occurred that have caused me to doubt this "healthier" alternative.

I smoked for about 15 years, about a pack a day for the majority of that time. Smoked all kinds of cigarettes in different strengths. When I started vaping they shop recommended a 9mg liquid since the device I started with would allow me take in far more vapor than a typical beginner might. I quickly moved down to 6 mg to allow for morevaping and on average the mls I vape on a daily basis ranges from 3-5 mls.

Onto the issues.... first, a few days ago I started to get severely dizzy. It would feel almost as if I was on a stopping elevator and I would get really light headed. Over the next day or so it was less severe but still occurring. I am drinking a ton of water, I assure you.

Another issue I am having is my hands and feet get severely cold, almost like ice which is rather annoying. Drinking the water almost seems to make this issue worse.

And now, last night I am getting leg, rib and arm/wrist cramps. Again, I am drinking ample amounts of water which is an apparent solution to this issue as well. Additionally my chest feels tight and feel like my breathing has become shallower. My sinuses are terrible and my head is always tingly.

I had none of these issues when smoking analogs and now I am just wanting to say screw it and go buy a pack

ARE YOU RIP TRIPPERS????

 

[ReigntheGamer]

That's exactly what I run - .5 ohm coils at 30 watts (different mod, though) and I can't take more than 1 or 1.5 mg nic without getting dizzy and nic-sick. I smoked two packs a day for over 40 years. 3 mg nic on that setup might be "common" to a lot of people, but maybe not to you. Certainly not for me. Try lowering your nic level, or get some zero nic juice in a second tank and switch back and forth, to even out your nicotine intake, and see if that helps at all. Even at 1 mg nic juice, I have have to switch to zero in the afternoon and evening, or I can't sleep at night. Some people are more sensitive than others.

Agreed. I vape 6mg in a dripper(squonker) as my ADV so people comparing nicotine levels/tolerance might be misleading.

 

[FringeChief68]

I've been vaping for approximately 2 1/2 weeks and the first week or so was absolutely great... then some things have occurred that have caused me to doubt this "healthier" alternative.

I smoked for about 15 years, about a pack a day for the majority of that time. Smoked all kinds of cigarettes in different strengths. When I started vaping they shop recommended a 9mg liquid since the device I started with would allow me take in far more vapor than a typical beginner might. I quickly moved down to 6 mg to allow for morevaping and on average the mls I vape on a daily basis ranges from 3-5 mls.

Onto the issues.... first, a few days ago I started to get severely dizzy. It would feel almost as if I was on a stopping elevator and I would get really light headed. Over the next day or so it was less severe but still occurring. I am drinking a ton of water, I assure you.

Another issue I am having is my hands and feet get severely cold, almost like ice which is rather annoying. Drinking the water almost seems to make this issue worse.

And now, last night I am getting leg, rib and arm/wrist cramps. Again, I am drinking ample amounts of water which is an apparent solution to this issue as well. Additionally my chest feels tight and feel like my breathing has become shallower. My sinuses are terrible and my head is always tingly.

I had none of these issues when smoking analogs and now I am just wanting to say screw it and go buy a pack

It's an istick40w with .5 ohm coils running at 30 watts.

A shop sold you 9mg juice to use with a .5ohm at 30 watts

Cigarettes contain anywhere from 8 mg of nicotine up to 20 mg of nicotine.
Most cigarettes are at the lower end of the spectrum, which puts the average amount on nicotine in one cigarette at 12 mg.
Even though total amount of nicotine in a cigarette may vary, the amount that you actually absorb is relatively constant.
You absorb less than 1 mg of that nicotine when you smoke a cigarette. According to studies, it is about 0.95 mg
But the number of cigarettes you smoke has a direct impact on how much nicotine is in your bloodstream.

Nicotine strength is measured by the ratio of nicotine mg per each 1 ml of e-liquid.
A 24 mg nicotine level is the same as 2.4% nicotine.

How much Nic you get from Vaping is a little harder to pin point.
All Ecigs, Tanks, RBA's, RDA's and their wicking, are all different and could give off more or less vapor.
The power output of a mod and the ohms of a coil will effect this too.
In other words, the higher the wattage and lower the ohms in a coil, will give you a lot more vapor, which in return gives you a lot more Nic.

But say a set up gives you 50%
Vaping a 18 mg eliquid in a 1 ml tank that gives you 50% of the nicotine in the vapor, and you vape that whole tank, that would mean that you ingested about 9 mg.
That's equal to 9.47 cigs smoked in the time you vaped that 1 ml tank.
I was always told that my setups give me over 80% of the nic.
So that same 1 ml tank would give me 14.4 mg and would be like smoking 15 cigs.
And I too vape .5 ohm coils at around 30 watts.
On your setup, I would of suggested you started out at 3mg
But 6mg in a sub-ohm tank is pretty much for that 2 to 3 pack a day smoker,
And I don't see to many people going that high.
Most your cloud chasers and People that vape to do Vape Tricks, don't use any Nic at all.
This is because of IF all that vapor they are sucking in had Nic,
they would probably just past out.

 

[morningdew]

Not sure what's causing the other persons issues....though sounds like anxiety to me.

Regarding e cigs and the amount of vapour...the amount of vapour directly relates to the amount of e liquid being vapourised.

What you actually need to consider is ml Vaped and the mg of nicotine per ml.

The device used is a bit of a red herring.

For example someone using 24 mg in a dripper and vaping 1ml per day is getting less nicotine than someone vaping 10 ml of 3mg per day in a dripper.

Though of course if the whole ml at 24 mg was Vaped in say 20 mins, we could expect quite a nicotine buzz to say the least.

Ml Vaped x mg per ml is the equation. Not device x mg per ml.

Estimates suggest between 50 and 75 percent of the nicotine is absorbed.