Trying to match a Vype flavor

[TylerA]

Hi there, new to these forums and also a new vaper - 3 weeks off cigs after smoking for 24 years, woo!

My first vaping experience was with a Vype ePen 3 from 7/11 since it was super cheap, and I figured what the hell. However, since buying two prefilled 2ml pods for $14 isn't any cheaper than smoking, I've purchased an Innokin Kroma A Zenith kit. I've also purchased 5 of each of the Zenith coils, 1.6Ω, .8Ω, and the .5Ω Plexus - been trying to figure out what works best with each liquid that I have, as well as an optimal wattage. It's been an interesting journey so far.

I've spent more money than I'd like on different juices (from fruit to desserts to tobacco, etc) and I've yet to find something I'm really happy with. I'm currently using a "Kool Grape" liquid from a B&M store that mixes their own liquids that I'm somewhat satisfied with, a bit too much menthol I think ... I don't mind menthol, but I think they used too much for this particular flavor.

The liquid that I really enjoyed, however, was the Infused Vanilla that I was using with my Vype ePen .. and I have yet to find anything that's similar. From their website they describe it as "A blend of vanilla with caramel tones.", I did not notice any caramel, though ... it was mostly a vanilla with a very slight sweetness to it. To be clear, I absolutely hate caramel/butterscotch, those flavors absolutely make me want to vomit.

So my first question would be whether anyone has any experience using the Vype Infused Vanilla, and if they've found something that matches.

And a second question would be if anyone could recommend a good grape flavor. The type of grape flavor I'm looking for would be more along the lines of grape crush, or grape koolaid .. I guess the "artificial" grape flavor. I do not enjoy the "real" fruit flavor, if that makes sense.

I apologize for the wall of text, and appreciate any recommendations, thank you!

 

[bombastinator]

Howdy and welcome

Sounds like you got a decent rig which is good.
Matching a given juice is really hard because of the nature of how artificial flavorings work. It’s not just matching how a flavor tastes, it’s matching how it tastes to you.
Randomly buying juices looking for something you like can get very expensive very fast and you wind up with all these bottles you will never finish.
The standard solution for this one is to find a vape shop you can walk into with a juice tasting bar. There you can try 20 or 30 juices for free and hopefully find something you like.

 

[TylerA]

Howdy and welcome

Sounds like you got a decent rig which is good.
Matching a given juice is really hard because of the nature of how artificial flavorings work. It’s not just matching how a flavor tastes, it’s matching how it tastes to you.
Randomly buying juices looking for something you like can get very expensive very fast and you wind up with all these bottles you will never finish.
The standard solution for this one is to find a vape shop you can walk into with a juice tasting bar. There you can try 20 or 30 juices for free and hopefully find something you like.

Unfortunately there seems to be only one B&M store in my city that has a flavor bar (same place I bought the grape). I tried their vanillas, but the flavor seemed .. muted .. I guess? Not a very strong flavor, and that bit of sweetness was missing. One other place in town that offers something similar is a "smell" bar - smelled ok but the grape I bought from there was just awful .. they do have a Vanilla Gelato I suppose I'm going to have to try. They mix their flavors on the spot, which would lead to my next question:

I've been reading various threads, and steeping is mentioned frequently. Is this something I'm going to have to worry about when buying juices at places that mix on the spot? If so, is there a preferred method to steeping? I've seen a bunch of things that all seem to suggest doing it different ways, so I'm a bit confused on that.

Thanks again!

 

[bombastinator]

Unfortunately there seems to be only one B&M store in my city that has a flavor bar (same place I bought the grape). I tried their vanillas, but the flavor seemed .. muted .. I guess? Not a very strong flavor, and that bit of sweetness was missing. One other place in town that offers something similar is a "smell" bar - smelled ok but the grape I bought from there was just awful .. they do have a Vanilla Gelato I suppose I'm going to have to try. They mix their flavors on the spot, which would lead to my next question:

I've been reading various threads, and steeping is mentioned frequently. Is this something I'm going to have to worry about when buying juices at places that mix on the spot? If so, is there a preferred method to steeping? I've seen a bunch of things that all seem to suggest doing it different ways, so I'm a bit confused on that.

Thanks again!

Steeping is something of a chemical mystery to me personally though very possible not to some here. My current working theory is that acids in the flavoring very slowly protonate some of the nic making the flavor change slowly over time. I got no data though. My only data point is that I’ve heard “salts” don’t steep. There is basically no flavor change. How true this is I don’t know. I’ve never had the patience for much juice steeping myself.

What I have heard about steeping is most of the (numerous) shortcut attempts don’t really work. The only thing you can do if you want to steep a juice is leave it in a cool dark place for a month or two.

 

[Coyote628]

Vanilla is an ok flavor, but i found one that really did it for me. Cannoli be one. You guessed it, cannoli flavor. Its really nice. Check it out if you can find it

 

[gpjoe]

When you ask about e-liquid flavors you will likely get 100's of different answers, but my all-time favorite grape would be Grape Bubblegum from Vape Dudes. Vaped a ton of it.

Congrats on getting off the cigarettes.

 

[DeloresRose]

Does that shop maybe have some steeped vanillas you could try? Because, while grape flavors should be pretty close in taste as soon as they’re mixed, vanillas change a lot - they are one of the most steep needy flavors. They really bloom with time.

Take whatever juices you have and give them a serious shaking. Set them in a cool, dark place, shake and test again in a week , two weeks, or longer. You’ll be surprised how they change.

There’s really not much more to steeping.

A few flavors have alcohol, so I try to avoid them, or I’ll leave the cap off for a day to let it evaporate.

Otherwise it’s just shaking and waiting.

 

[greek mule]

Welcome to the forum.

Steeping Times:​

Cereals & Nuts 7-10 Days
Vanilla & Chocolate 10-15 Days
Fruits 7-10 Days
Tobaccos&Woody flavor 15-20 Days
Coffe 10-15 Days
Pastry&Donuts 10-15 Days
Sodas&Tea flavors 15-20 Days
Light Creams 10-15 Days
Thick Creams 20-30 Days

 

[Letitia]

Welcome to ECF.
Can't help with the vanilla but Lost Art grape white was my favorite commercial grape, it's sweet and candyish. Good straight out of the mailbox and just gets better with time.

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[TylerA]

Thank you everyone for your replies! I'll look into the flavors mentioned and try giving the juice I bought time to steep.

 

[NeonH1]

You can purchase vype infused vanilla in eliquid bottles 10ml size. In Canada they go for $7.00 per bottle. They are available in 3 different strengths, 0 mg/ml, 6 mg/ml & 12 mg/ml nicotine. This will work perfectly with your setup. I'm actually a pretty big fan of the vype eliquids, but I find their devices rubbish. I'm quite sensitive to different flavours, but the vype eliquids treat me well.

 

[JCinFLA]

@TylerA - Your location isn't shown under your avatar, so
I'm not sure where you're located. However, if you're in the US, you may want to go to VapeBig.com and check out their Vanilla Bean eliquid. It's a very true, great-tasting vanilla, IMO. That 1 and their NannerBerry eliquid (Banana Strawberry mix), were the only 2 eliquids I vaped for about 1.5 years, before I started DIYing my own. They're very tasty and not really expensive compared to other commercially sold eliquids. Their S/H is very reasonable, too, IMO. You can customize your eliquid when you order it, not only as far as the PG/VG ratio and nicotine level you want, but you can also ask for a "Flavor Boost" if you'd like more flavoring in it.

 

[TylerA]

You can purchase vype infused vanilla in eliquid bottles 10ml size. In Canada they go for $7.00 per bottle. They are available in 3 different strengths, 0 mg/ml, 6 mg/ml & 12 mg/ml nicotine. This will work perfectly with your setup. I'm actually a pretty big fan of the vype eliquids, but I find their devices rubbish. I'm quite sensitive to different flavours, but the vype eliquids treat me well.

@NeonH1 and @JCinFLA

Sorry for the very late replies, I've updated my location!

I have been buying the Vype Vanilla liquid, but its very thin and its been causing some leaking/flooding in my tank and coil.

I'm planning on going the DIY route, and if I can match the Vype Vanilla flavor, it's what I would ideally prefer to do since it would be way more economical ... I've saved a lot of money since quitting cigs, and if I can save more, I'll take it.

I'm not sure if any DIY'ers have tried the Vype Vanilla and make a recommendation on that, but if they can, I would be eternally grateful!