Trying vaping again...

[nomorewords21]

Hi everyone! You guys helped me so much with vaping before, I hope you can help me again! It's been at least 3 years since the last time I vaped and then I used a Kgo pen style e-cig. I am looking to get back into vaping again because, I've started back on the stupid cigarettes ugh! I want something that is going to give me long lasting battery power and a mouth to lung hit. I am completely clueless about all the ohm, watts and amp stuff and I don't want to have to do any of the building of my own coils or any of that stuff lol! I do want something that will last me though and something that isn't too "basic" so, it "grows" with me as I learn more about vaping. What do you suggest? I keep checking out The Innokin cool fire and the innokin mvp 3.0 pro but, I am really open to any suggestions. You guys helped me get off cigs before so, I know you can help me again Thanks so much!

 

[dcfluegel]

howdy! and welcome!

the coolfire IV is a good little mod, with room to grow - though i would personally get the 18650 version, a couple decent 18650 batteries (lg hg2 or samsung 30q) and an external charger... pair that up with an innokin i sub apex tank (also available in a larger 5ml capacity version) and you have a very solid kit, with several different coil options for finding what works for you

how much are you smoking (frequency/ strength) - this will impact suggestions for nic level

 

[Baditude]

The choice of "mod" doesn't really matter, as long as it is a "regulated" mod (variable wattage). I personally recommend choosing a mod that uses replaceable batteries, as opposed to the mods that have a non-replaceable internal battery.

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The most important decision you'll make is the type of juice attachment that you will put on your mod. This is what makes the vapor, and determines how easy or complicated you want to your juice attachment to be. You said you don't want to venture into "rebuildable" or homemade coils, so you can choose a tank which uses replaceable factory-made coils.

You can choose either a standard resistance tank (1.0 - 3.0 ohm) or a sub-ohm tank (0.25 - 0.5 ohm). What is "sub ohm" vaping? Becoming more and more popular in the last couple of years, sub ohm vaping means using heating coils with a resistance of 1.0 ohm or lower. Basically what this does is produce more vapor and more dense vapor, and arguably better flavor ... at the expense of consuming more e-liquid. It requires the use of a mechanical mod or a high wattage regulated mod.

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[sofarsogood]

If you get a mod with replacable batteries make certain the battery you choose has the exact specication the mod maker recommends and is from a reputable maker and retailer. Later when you can do watts law calculations from memory and understand the implications you can be more adventuresome with battery choices. The good thing about mods with built in batteries is you can't put in the wrong battery.

 

[dcfluegel]

make certain the battery you choose has the exact specication the mod maker recommends and is from a reputable maker and retailer..

not completely sure i would concur with following the mod makers specifications - i have seen some mod makers suggest 30+ A batteries for their regulated devices and that seems, to me (based on the information I have read as well as personal experience), a significant bit of hyperbole on their part - especially given that so many batteries are mislabeled... my go to batteries for my regulated devices are samsung 25r or lg he4 (both decent 25A rated batteries with 2500mah) and samsung 30q or lg hg2 (both decent 20A rated batteries with 3000mah) - and both provide plenty of safety margin in those applications (typically .15 to .4 ohm builds on regulateds running 45-65 watts, as i don't mind some ramp up time) - i don't see a significant advantage at all in running sony vtc4's in my regulated mods (though i do use them exclusively in my mechs)

that being said, those are my preferences, but my point being that the specs listed in mod instructions are not always the gospel - better to ask some questions and understand battery safety

as a rule of thumb, the samsung 25r has pretty consistently proven itself (via bench testing ala Mooch and usage) to be a good, solid, dependable battery for regulated mods

 

[nomorewords21]

Thanks so much everyone! I smoke light cigarettes and about 3/4 to a pack a day. When I vaped before I struggled with getting the juice to taste strong enough to me. Flavor is probably the most important thing to me, I don't care about big clouds or anything.

 

[sofarsogood]

not completely sure i would concur with following the mod makers specifications - i have seen some mod makers suggest 30+ A batteries for their regulated devices and that seems, to me (based on the information I have read as well as personal experience), a significant bit of hyperbole on their part - especially given that so many batteries are mislabeled... my go to batteries for my regulated devices are samsung 25r or lg he4 (both decent 25A rated batteries with 2500mah) and samsung 30q or lg hg2 (both decent 20A rated batteries with 3000mah) - and both provide plenty of safety margin in those applications (typically .15 to .4 ohm builds on regulateds running 45-65 watts, as i don't mind some ramp up time) - i don't see a significant advantage at all in running sony vtc4's in my regulated mods (though i do use them exclusively in my mechs)

that being said, those are my preferences, but my point being that the specs listed in mod instructions are not always the gospel - better to ask some questions and understand battery safety

as a rule of thumb, the samsung 25r has pretty consistently proven itself (via bench testing ala Mooch and usage) to be a good, solid, dependable battery for regulated mods

Point taken. Having responsibility for choosing mod batteries is something for newbies to avoid. The major mod makers would sleep better if they could sell only mods with built in batteries but the market demands replacable batteries for some good reasons including the regs closing in (so far the FDA has made vaping less safe, way to go guys!). Even with the regs I like to see a beginner start with a low watts iStick 20 or 40 style device to minimize the variables. Let's say the reward for quitting smoking is you give yourself permission to buy the fancier toys after you've learned some things one the easy ones.

 

[Chuck64]

Welcome back.

 

[djsvapour]

Welcome back

I remember the Kgo kits. That's what I used to quit smoking after my expensive foray (is that even the right word?) into cig-a-likes.

You can replicate the vapor of that battery + clearo/carto combination quite easily these days.

I'm not recommending cartomizers, but there's plenty of tanks you could put on a nice (small) box mod and vape them at the same power or more, even.

iStick and mini Protank (1 or 2)
Independent battery mod with an Eleaf tank.
Coolfire and an Innokin tank.

The permutations are endless. Most tanks have replacable heads (non-disposable) so you just need to choose the power (guess at the power) and make your choice.

Today, I've been using the 40w iStick with the Eleaf GS tank, for example. You can turn that down to maybe 7 watts or up to 14 for double the vapor.
I found a 20w iStick today (not recommended) and am revisiting mini Protank 1 for a bit of 2014 vaping, just for fun, with some higher nicotine liquid that somebody sent me.

 

[BrotherBob]

Welcome back nomorewords21 and glad you rejoined. I use a iStick 40w (same battery for about a year now) and vape single coil Magma RDA's at 2 ohms/5 watts. The battery last all day (Great flavor and normal clouds) on one charge with good usage. This type of vaping is at the extreme other end of vaping--next to nothing in cost (I DIY).

 

[m1ke]

Thanks so much everyone! I smoke light cigarettes and about 3/4 to a pack a day. When I vaped before I struggled with getting the juice to taste strong enough to me. Flavor is probably the most important thing to me, I don't care about big clouds or anything.

I just recently got back into vaping too. I bought a CoolFire IV and two tanks: an iSub V and a Nautilus Mini. The Nautilus is great for mouth to lung vaping, which I think I prefer after doing straight lung hits for my first time on the iSub V (0.5ohm SS coils). Sub-ohm vaping rips through juice but does offer a unique vape.

Bottom line is this: The CoolFire IV paired with a Nautilus Mini is awesome. The 2000mAh battery doesn't drain quickly cause you won't be vaping above 15 watts with that setup (At least you shouldn't if you stay below the max voltage rating for the coils.). I'm at 4.8v on a 1.9ohm coil. It's about 12 watts. The flavor and vapor is excellent with that tank.

 

[bnrkwest]

Welcome back! You could also look at some of Provari's in special right now, $34 for some on special. They are very reliable. Also some tanks take pre built coils and can also be rebuilt when you are ready for that aspect. Do a bit of looking around or go to a vape B&M to try things out first. Good luck shopping!

 

[nomorewords21]

I just recently got back into vaping too. I bought a CoolFire IV and two tanks: an iSub V and a Nautilus Mini. The Nautilus is great for mouth to lung vaping, which I think I prefer after doing straight lung hits for my first time on the iSub V (0.5ohm SS coils). Sub-ohm vaping rips through juice but does offer a unique vape.

Bottom line is this: The CoolFire IV paired with a Nautilus Mini is awesome. The 2000mAh battery doesn't drain quickly cause you won't be vaping above 15 watts with that setup (At least you shouldn't if you stay below the max voltage rating for the coils.). I'm at 4.8v on a 1.9ohm coil. It's about 12 watts. The flavor and vapor is excellent with that tank.

Could I also use the Nautilus Mini with the Coolfire that has the temp control? I think I've decided on the Coolfire with the Aethon chip but, the confusing part to me is picking out a tank (besides the one it comes with) and coils. Whatever gives the best flavor with a mouth to lung hit is what I'm looking for. Thanks!!

 

[steam heat]

Check out the kanger toptank mini...it has a lot of coil options aswell as the option to use a rba deck ( for building your own coils)..... It is a popular tank so any vape shop will have coils and repair parts in stock.