Two new studies hit MSM - overall positive

[DrMA]

E-cigarette users trying to quit smoking should vape every day, studies suggest | Society | The Guardian

Taken together, they say ecig users trying to quit smoking should vape daily and use gen 2 or 3 devices (so-called tanks by the academics).

ANTZ however have been quick to misrepresent the findings
https://theconversation.com/want-to-quit-smoking-switching-to-e-cigarettes-wont-help-40499


ETA: PR from King's College London
http://www.kcl.ac.uk/ioppn/news/rec...te-research-on-type-and-frequency-of-use.aspx

 

[FlamingoTutu]

Favorite line:

Only 5% of people using cigalikes infrequently had quit smoking after a year, which the researchers say is concerning given that most of the cigalike brands are manufactured by the tobacco industry.

 

[nicnik]

Favorite line:

Only 5% of people using cigalikes infrequently had quit smoking after a year, which the researchers say is concerning given that most of the cigalike brands are manufactured by the tobacco industry.

The way that line is written, it sounds like a sentence trying to confuse a reader into unknowingly comparing frequent tank type use with infrequent cig-a-like use. Did I read that second study wrong?

 

[TaketheRedPill]

I just found this article. Wow. they could have at least paired the 5% comment with what was above it: "we looked at smokers who were using them for any reason, including just to cut down on their smoking or in situations when they cannot smoke"

In the first study, 65% of daily vapers were motivated to attempt to quit and 14% reduced their tobacco consumption by half or more. In the second study, 28% of users who vaped tanks every day quit tobacco use versus 13% of non-vaping smokers. Those have got to be statistically significant numbers that can't be ignored.

 

[Semiretired]

It sounds like some notability is finally being given to support the industry.

 

[Mossy]

I like this bit

"Linda Bauld, a professor of health policy at the University of Stirling, said the studies made valuable contributions to the growing literature on e-cigarettes. She said: “What this new research tells us is what e-cigarette users already know. The type of device, how often it is used and how much nicotine it contains all matter. Some devices will be effective to help smokers quit and others less so. Future studies need to maintain this focus and not treat all e-cigarettes, or all users, the same.”

Thats more like want we need to hear.

 

[Mossy]

Want to quit smoking? Switching to e-cigarettes no advantage

Check out Chapman's disclosure here

"Simon Chapman receives funding from the National Health and Medical Research Council for a three year project looking at the natural history of unassisted smoking cessation, the way most ex-smokers have always quit"

That has got to be the biggest waste of research funds in Australia's history..... paid by the taxpayer. I was speaking with my daughter(who is a medical researcher), she said real research cannot get funding because of the people in public health getting funding for things like this. She had to give up on a project looking at miscarriage in women(ie rejection of the feotus) due to no funds available.......and their project was getting some very positive results. She decided it was all to much and now writes proposals for drug companies to get their poisons passed into the Australian pharmaceutical benefits scheme........ she has to earn an income......... it would be much better if she could work on things that benefit society

 

[nicnik]

Check out Chapman's disclosure here

"Simon Chapman receives funding from the National Health and Medical Research Council for a three year project looking at the natural history of unassisted smoking cessation, the way most ex-smokers have always quit"

That has got to be the biggest waste of research funds in Australia's history..... paid by the taxpayer. I was speaking with my daughter(who is a medical researcher), she said real research cannot get funding because of the people in public health getting funding for things like this. She had to give up on a project looking at miscarriage in women(ie rejection of the feotus) due to no funds available.......and their project was getting some very positive results. She decided it was all to much and now writes proposals for drug companies to get their poisons passed into the Australian pharmaceutical benefits scheme........ she has to earn an income......... it would be much better if she could work on things that benefit society

Not sure if you meant to post this on this thread, but very interesting.

 

[Mossy]

Hi nicnik...............I saw the disclosure in that article referring to the ANTZ comments in the conversation......so thought I better leave it here rather than start a new rant