UFS mouthpiece rocks!

[erich]

So, this is probably old news for most of you, but as a recent inductee in the GG family, I started out with my UFS (v2) with a normal 510 drip dip, because I couldn't get ahold of the proper mouthpiece. I had a recurring problem where sometimes the wick would start to taste dry, so I would close the air restrictor completely and take a few sharp pulls on it to get the atty good & saturated again. However, the next drag on it generally shot hot juice in my mouth. The proper mouthpiece has a wider tunnel but smaller hole, and seems to be much better in this regard.

I'm up for any suggestions as to how to find the 'sweet spot', though. I imagine this was a solution to a problem I shouldn't have been having anyway. I'm in this constant battle between dry hits and flooded lower collector, and I've tried several posts I've read here about "open it 1/4 turn, and then if needed, another 1/8", but that's always dry to me (50/50 PG/VG) so I generally go with a full half turn.

Bear in mind that for the last 2 weeks I was travelling on business in Chicago. Planes always screw with the balance of pressure with any kind of tank system, so expecting that, I kept it fully closed for that. However, the buildings are all tall too... the office I was working in was 500ft. in the air... your ears pop in the elevators, so I might have been introducing abnormal types of issues here (back to normal now). Best I can do when out & about with it is close the tank, open the air restrictor all the way, and blow the excess out of the air holes, which is messy and wastes a lot of juice in a scenario where I'm away from home and already drained a sizeable amount by flooding it.

Anyone know of any thorough videos/posts that cover day to day use of the UFS? It's a little tough to search for without running in to reviews that gloss over the whole 'getting it to work consistently' part.

Any help would be appreciated.

 

[Serpent67]

Pressures will affect tank systems as you have said, so that is covered.

All I can add.....is that as you vape the warmer your atty will become, hence warming the fluid also. I vape 50/50 and the warmer it becomes, the fluidity increases towards a more PG consistency.

You will then have to close the juice feed more to make up for that.

There's so many changing varibles from person to person, temperature, altitude, juice differences,etc etc, that it may be difficult to pin down one definative procedure that works for everyone.

Mine's always seem to work best going less on the juice control and the air ports half open.

 

[erich]

Ah, yeah, I'll give that a shot. I hadn't thought about the temperature rising substantially, since it's always fairly cool to the touch, but all the heat being on the inside, that makes sense.

Also, do you close the tank off when you're carrying it around? I'm not sure, but becoming convinced that just bouncing around in my pocket is shaking liquid down to the collector. I haven't tested this hypothesis, because every now and then, when I close off the tank completely, it starts unthreading the atomizer as well, and it needs a complete breakdown if that happens as the entire bottom part is full immediately.

 

[Zogem]

I've been using a slug tip and got my UFS tip in today.. I'm surprised at how different it seems.

The way I get my UFS sweet spot.. YMMV.. (I tend to use 60/40 VG/PG even the some are much thinner than others).

What I do to find the sweet spot:

Close everything on fill.

Open the air vent all the way and draw without hitting anything. Get a feel for the draw.. close it and back it of until you have air draw slightly with a slight pull.

At this point I open the Juice all the way. I then do cold draws until I can feel juice flowing in - at this point I'm trying to get the fill hole between the crenalations. Due to cohesion, fluid tends to travel in mass, so at this point I'm looking to 'feel' the vacuum is right to make that happen, I can feel the the fluid come through when I have it right. In my case it might sound like a flooded atty, but it's actually the current vape drawing in juice for the next vape..

Once I have that I just adjust the air by fractions of ml to hold the balance..

There are probably many ways if getting there... But when you do, it's Zen.

-Z

 

[Serpent67]

I would close it off if inside moving about, esp in a pocket where it would be warm.

Outside in the cold the juice would get like syrup so it would not be a problem for me.

I have no doubt that vigorous shaking around could force fluid down in the collector if the feed was open enough.

 

[Zogem]

Ah, yeah, I'll give that a shot. I hadn't thought about the temperature rising substantially, since it's always fairly cool to the touch, but all the heat being on the inside, that makes sense.

Also, do you close the tank off when you're carrying it around? I'm not sure, but becoming convinced that just bouncing around in my pocket is shaking liquid down to the collector. I haven't tested this hypothesis, because every now and then, when I close off the tank completely, it starts unthreading the atomizer as well, and it needs a complete breakdown if that happens as the entire bottom part is full immediately.

I haven't had juice in the collector since week 2.

If you are unthreading the atty it means the mouth piece or top cap is to tight when making the adjustments. Ease the tension on the top o-ring whenever you close the feed, else the o-ring grips the atty and you move both.. That will result in a mess... Most of us have done it .

-Z

 

[EsxPaul]

erich, Seaweedshark made a very helpful video recently that may give you some extra tip and tricks.


http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/gg/268087-how-i-assemble-use-my-ufsv2-requested-video.html

 

[erich]

erich, Seaweedshark made a very helpful video recently that may give you some extra tip and tricks.

Nice. Thanks for that. That's pretty much what I've been doing except that I have *not* been lubing the very top o-ring around the atomizer. I'm sure that explains my atomizer threading, as every now and then the atomizer unthreads when I remove the top cap as well. I guess I thought this would end up with "vaseline flavored juice".

Zogem, you didn't mention how much you adjust down after, "At this point I open the Juice all the way." I think I know what you mean, though... looking for the first little bit of gurgle that doesn't actually make it flooded.

 

[Zogem]

Nice. Thanks for that. That's pretty much what I've been doing except that I have *not* been lubing the very top o-ring around the atomizer. I'm sure that explains my atomizer threading, as every now and then the atomizer unthreads when I remove the top cap as well. I guess I thought this would end up with "vaseline flavored juice".

Zogem, you didn't mention how much you adjust down after, "At this point I open the Juice all the way." I think I know what you mean, though... looking for the first little bit of gurgle that doesn't actually make it flooded.

With the attys I'm using (Ikenvape 510), it's about a 1/2 turn, and it's right. All I'm trying to do there is get a feed hole that's not blocked.

And don't get down if your having problems, most everyone does initially. I fought this thing for over two months (3 weeks of not touching it due to limited use of one of my hands). Several attys lost their lives in the battle.

There are a lot a variables in this. Through trial and error I came to the conclusion that the 60/40 VG/PG was to thick to be fed by gravity, and that the draw had to be part of the feed and if I flood it a little, I could open the air to reduce the juice intake, and if I tasted burnt, I better get something in there else I'm out another atty.

The only time I've ever flooded into the bottom was due to adjusting the flow with the O-ring moving the atty, or putting on the top cap with the juice control open.. Screwing the top cap down can add internal pressure and if juice control is open, that's where it equalizes.

Once you nail it a few times, it'll click, and then become second nature resulting in hours of blissful vaping. So much so that I dropped to 12mg (started at 24).

Best, and good luck with it.

-Z

(P.S. What part of ATL ? ).

 

[erich]

Yeah, it's definitely perfection right up until I have an issue. Hoping now that I'm back home and not having a commute that includes an elevation change, it'll level out.

The first couple of days I definitely did the rookie move of opening it for refill without closing it.

Oh, and Alpharetta

 

[EsxPaul]

Quite a few people are using food grade silicone grease in place of vaseline if that is something that's worrying you, erich.

 

[VapingTums]

Was going to use a Ming on the UFS I just bought but i'll have to pick up a SS UFS drip tip to see how it differs

 

[EsxPaul]

Was going to use a Ming on the UFS I just bought but i'll have to pick up a SS UFS drip tip to see how it differs

Well worth getting the SS mouthpiece. Nothing else finishes of the UFS like one of those does imo.

 

[fright88]

Was going to use a Ming on the UFS I just bought but i'll have to pick up a SS UFS drip tip to see how it differs

Just know that the UFS SS mouthpiece will not always work especially if you like to vape cartomizers.