UFS Noob - v2 First Impression

[The Yeti]

Hey All,

Just got my USFv2 yesterday. After struggling most of last night, I'm still trying to get it to feed properly, but there are plenty of threads on that subject. I'm hoping to figure it out soon, pretty frustrating at times but I think I'm getting closer to dialing it in - only time will tell.

I'm coming off of a Liquinator tank and I'm using the USF with the same LR XL cartos (CCV Ressurectors). I've also tried VK LR 510 attys. With either, I don't seem to be getting quite the same amount of flavor or vapor that I had with the Liquinator - I hope for that to be resolved whenever I can get the USF to feed properly. Both the cartos and the attys seem to run HOT in the USF - the cartos certainly didn't heat up this fast in my previous tank. After a bit of chain-vaping, my SS drip tip gets almost too hot for my lips.

My first impressions:

• The Liquinator was much easier to fill, fed good every time, gave better flavor and vapor and cost a he** of a lot less than the UFS. But, man this thing is put together like an actual TANK, and looks freakin' AWESOME on top of my SSGGTS!

• Even with the adjustable draw on the USF wide open, I would prefer even more - I like an 'airy' draw.

• I know this is an 'advanced user device', but geez, couldn't it come with some kind of instructions? At least a schematic, although it took me all of 30 seconds to pull one up on the web and print it out for myself.

• With the XL cartos, my carto sticks out the top of the USF a good .5 inch - is there an extension (taller window?) for the USF to take advantage of this wasted space? I would love to have more capacity in the USF, and a taller window would be the perfect solution, IMO.

• With the standard size attys, I have to put the UFS into 'shorty' mode. Didn't I see somewhere that there is an 'atty extender'? Would be nice if that came with the USF.

That's all for now, I'm sure the saga will continue as I get to use the USF more. Oh, and thank to all of you GG'ers - without this sub-forum, I'd be lost!

 

[inquisitorj]

OK to a few of your points.

I personally find the liquinator harder and messier to fill than the UFS, but I think this is just what we are used to doing.

I find the liquinator too airy, but your air holes on your UFS may be clogged. My UFS can be just as airy as my liquinator, so you should check the 4 holes under the air control ring on the catch tank. There have been some that have stuff left in them from the manufacturing process and they just need to be cleaned.

Imeo is making both tank extenders and atty extenders. You could pick up a tank extender to give you a few more mils with your carto and get the atty extender to run the UFS in full mode with a standard atty. They are just not out yet.

If there is any area that you cannot seem to over come I'm sure someone here has figured out a solution.

 

[The Yeti]

OK to a few of your points.

I personally find the liquinator harder and messier to fill than the UFS, but I think this is just what we are used to doing.

I find the liquinator too airy, but your air holes on your UFS may be clogged. My UFS can be just as airy as my liquinator, so you should check the 4 holes under the air control ring on the catch tank. There have been some that have stuff left in them from the manufacturing process and they just need to be cleaned.

Imeo is making both tank extenders and atty extenders. You could pick up a tank extender to give you a few more mils with your carto and get the atty extender to run the UFS in full mode with a standard atty. They are just not out yet.

If there is any area that you cannot seem to over come I'm sure someone here has figured out a solution.

My Liquinator experience started out not-so-good too. But, after I got the hang of it, it just worked.

My air holes are clear, first thing I checked. ;-)

So, both the tank extender and atty extender do not exist yet? I swear I've seen pics of people using the atty extender somewhere on here.

 

[inquisitorj]

OK, to clarify. There is the old style atty extender that is used with the original mouthpiece. Imeo is making an extender that will still allow you to use your own drip tip.

The tank extenders do exist, they are the part on your UFS that is between the top of the window and the top cap, but there aren't many out extras out there right now, he is planning on producing more.

You may get luck in the classys, but these parts are hard to come by right now.

 

[The Yeti]

Thanks for the clarification inquisitorj!

 

[Para]

So, both the tank extender and atty extender do not exist yet? I swear I've seen pics of people using the atty extender somewhere on here.

Easy to make one.....HERE

 

[The Yeti]

After a couple more days with my USFv2:

I just can't get this thing to feed right! <grrr> It's too often flooded or dry, the happy in-between is really hard to come by.

It seems to work best if I loosen the top cap a bit until I see bubbles come up through the juice (a common tip that I read here on ECF). Then it will vape very well for about a half-hour or so. Then, it's back to getting dry hits - unscrew the cap - get juice on my fingers - etc.

The UFS just seems to not be 'breathing' right. The 'loosen top cap/wait for bubbles' trick works, but I'd rather not have to do that every half-hour to get good hits. This can't be right.

Last night, I even tried putting in one of my slotted cartos (for my Liquinator) to get the UFS to feed properly. That was a mistake, the juice just ran right through the carto into the collection tank and out the airholes - big mess.

Any tips?

 

[imeothanasis]

Yeti, I dont know how the liquinator works but if its made for 510 cartos then I dont see the reason that will not work on UFS with liquid totally closed

 

[The Yeti]

To be honest Imeo, after I tried the slotted carto and had the big mess, I took it out and didn't mess with it any more. I think I had the liquid totally closed when I did it.

Anyway, I shouldn't have to use slotted cartos with the UFS. Any ideas on what's going on with my UFS?? Is there something I can do to get it to breathe better?

 

[inquisitorj]

Pre-fill a non slotted, non punched carto. Install in the UFS. Fill UFS and fully assemble it. Now open the juice control about a quarter to half tun. Open the air control to desired draw. Vape. The carto should stay wet as you are vaping. If it is not and you taste the carto going dry, close the air control all the way and take hard draws without firing the mod till you hear a slight gurgle. This re-fills the carto. The carto should just barely be flooded. Re- open your air control to desired draw and vape past the slight flood. Once it is no longer lightly flooded, open the liquid control more. Repeat this process till you do not have to keep re filling the carto with the draw.

This is the process that works for me and I vape 100% VG. If it keeps flooding on you, close the liquid contol, vape past the flood and then re- open the juice control to half what you had it at before. You should be able to dial in the right setting.

 

[fright88]

Pre-fill a non slotted, non punched carto. Install in the UFS. Fill UFS and fully assemble it. Now open the juice control about a quarter to half tun. Open the air control to desired draw. Vape. The carto should stay wet as you are vaping. If it is not and you taste the carto going dry, close the air control all the way and take hard draws without firing the mod till you hear a slight gurgle. This re-fills the carto. The carto should just barely be flooded. Re- open your air control to desired draw and vape past the slight flood. Once it is no longer lightly flooded, open the liquid control more. Repeat this process till you do not have to keep re filling the carto with the draw.

This is the process that works for me and I vape 100% VG. If it keeps flooding on you, close the liquid contol, vape past the flood and then re- open the juice control to half what you had it at before. You should be able to dial in the right setting.

Same method also works very well for me with attys.

 

[The Yeti]

Pre-fill a non slotted, non punched carto. Install in the UFS. Fill UFS and fully assemble it. Now open the juice control about a quarter to half tun. Open the air control to desired draw. Vape. The carto should stay wet as you are vaping. If it is not and you taste the carto going dry, close the air control all the way and take hard draws without firing the mod till you hear a slight gurgle. This re-fills the carto. The carto should just barely be flooded. Re- open your air control to desired draw and vape past the slight flood. Once it is no longer lightly flooded, open the liquid control more. Repeat this process till you do not have to keep re filling the carto with the draw.

This is the process that works for me and I vape 100% VG. If it keeps flooding on you, close the liquid contol, vape past the flood and then re- open the juice control to half what you had it at before. You should be able to dial in the right setting.

This is great inquisitorj! Exactly the kind of guidance I was looking for!!

I tried this method a few hours ago and it works, I'm still getting the hang of it though. The tip about closing off the air control and drawing to help get juice to the carto/atty was something I did not figure out by myself, and the first time I tried it today I drew too much and flooded the he** out of it.

I'm slowly getting the hang of this UFS. Thanks for all the help GG'ers!

 

[inquisitorj]

No Problem Yeti, glad I could help. It is still going to take you a little while to really get the hang of it, but oh man is it worth it!

 

[The Yeti]

I've given up on the USF. It's currently up for trade in the classys. Just too fiddly for me. I'm back to my trusty, tasty liquinator on top of my GGTS.

 

[fright88]

I've given up on the USF. It's currently up for trade in the classys. Just too fiddly for me. I'm back to my trusty, tasty liquinator on top of my GGTS.

Sorry to hear that if I had the money I would jump on this as stealths are back in stock now.

 

[cliffy1]

The Yeti that is such a shame, coz i`m sure you were prob only a few more days into the learning curve. Still good luck with your sale I hope it goes good for you.

 

[imeothanasis]

Maybe it was a bad move Yeti. Odusseus inside UFS is one of the best set ups. But you can still have Odysseus as a single unit

I've given up on the USF. It's currently up for trade in the classys. Just too fiddly for me. I'm back to my trusty, tasty liquinator on top of my GGTS.

 

[fright88]

Does that mean in the future you might make more UFS?

 

[silentt]

I would keep giving the UFS a try, it took me awhile to get it down perfectly. It's frustrating at first but once you dial it in perfect you are going to be in vaping heaven.

 

[Torqueguy]

For what it's worth Yeti, it took me three attempts to learn ow to use my new UFS. Once I figured it out, it's incredible. Some of the important things I found is it's absolutely important to lube the orings and threads. If not, you can't get the subtle changes needed to tweak the thing. I sat down on Sat morning determined to either figure it out or sell it. I'm glad I did because this thing works as designed and its genius. Closing the fluid is not intuitive, you need to go counterclockwise. The base of the atty is what closes it against the inside of the cup. Once I got that, it all made sense. Lubing the orings is also essential because if not, things don't slide in and out as they should.
Try it one more time and I think you'll be pleased