Ugh. Granddaughter got caught with a vape.

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Ed Brown

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Our daughter said that she found a vape in her 13-year old daugher's room. I can hear it now: "Well PopPop vapes." If it had been cigarettes, it would be "Well mom, you smoke." I don't know who she would have blamed if it was alcohol.

You hate to play the Age Card with teenagers, but sometimes that's all you got.
 

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Tell her mom you bought it for her. That should precipitate an interesting family crisis. Especially if you add that you did so because she came to you in tears, as an addicted smoker to her mom's cigarettes she left laying around and she couldn't find a homeless person to buy it for her, and you were saving her from a lifetime of slavery plus possible rape by homeless person.

Do it.

Report back.

We need teen cohorts for the never smoker vape category so I'm just SAYING, she could do her part.

I'm sorry though that sucks.

Anna
 
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Sorry but there is no excuse for underage vaping (or smoking/drinking) although I do think the new 21 age thing is BS (18 is an adult and that should apply to everything) I guess I should confess that when my son was 17, I kinda gave up but no way at 13 I would even suggest that it is OK. Tough love and all that. Do you (or her mother) know if she was vaping nicotine? There is a part of me that might accept vaping 0mg juice... no addiction or real health issues but still you have tell them it will not be allowed.
 
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Honestly, different worlds, genetics and all that but if my parents found me vaping instead of various other things in HS (including BANGING my English teacher, but I was in 12 grade so I figured it did not count. Only he was stalking my 13 year old sis and she came to me frantically in tears because he was sending creepy postcards) and she did not want "mom and dad" to know.

So I fell on the sword for that one. Telling my parents SUCKED. Telling the teachers was worse, honestly.

He needed young ladies after one time I was like, "Yeah you have a motorcycle and access to alcohol but I have found that elsewhere, well not the motorcycle with far more interesting encounters,"

Not a single other student came forward, maybe they didn't have younger sisters to protect.

To me, a vape is like.... It's like wearing a condom so you don't catch cigarettes. If you are in the teens, eh,. Teens are dumb freaking REDUCE THE HARM.

HARM REDUCTION is the big thing with addictions these days, and let me tell you, it works. A lot of people STOP.

When my kid was in middle school (11) he had a pal routinely vaping MJ in class. I was like, "Well if you aren't deal with it (or not) as you choose."

I guess I'm jaded but really CONDOM--- Ecig. Think about it. Yeah, you take it away and give the speech and the consequences, maybe some therapy even and maybe it works, and maybe it DOESN'T.

I'm not saying give up, but I see no reason for teens to smoke cigarettes JUST because everyone hates them as they are vilified by the politicians and the media.

HATE the politicians and the media,. The teens are being teens. Do your best, they will either become thinking adults someday, or die in the attempt, or get locked up for a while.

it's how it works. I'm sorry but it is. I hand out condoms probably EVERY day at my job, but VERY frequently.

Anna
 

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    Sorry but there is no excuse for underage vaping (or smoking/drinking) although I do think the new 21 age thing is BS (18 is an adult and that should apply to everything) I guess I should confess that when my son was 17, I kinda gave up but no way at 13 I would even suggest that it is OK. Tough love and all that. Do you (or her mother) know if she was vaping nicotine? There is a part of me that might accept vaping 0mg juice... no addiction or real health issues but still you have tell them it will not be allowed.

    I smoked underage at 15. I drank underage at 15.

    If I had a teen daughter who was experimenting - I would much prefer it to be a nicotine vape, over actual cigarettes. And I would prefer it to be a nicotine vape over a THC cartridge setup.

    I don't have kids, just a teenage niece and nephew. Both of whom gave me so much grief over smoking. They much prefer me now, healthy and vaping. And it wouldn't surprise me if they experimented with nicotine vaping some time. But at least they got to see firsthand with me, it is a quit smoking tool.
     

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    I smoked my first cigarette at 10 or 11. Drank whiskey at 12, I hated beer. My parents either didn't care to notice, or didn't care, or I was slicker than a pile of fresh cow poop. I'm almost 57. Started vaping almost 3 yrs ago to stay off cigs. I hate cigarettes now. I still like whiskey, having a bit as I type this. I like beer now too lol. Just in a whiskey mood tonite. I have a 12 yr old going on 13 daughter. She lives with her mom and I keep her on weekends. She knows everything I do and so far doesn't seem to want to do these things too.
     

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    In a perverse way this is very satisfying karma. This daughter of ours was a handful at the same age (and still is at 37 - Anna I think that you'd get along with her, (chuckles.)) They live in another town 10 miles away, and it would do no good for me to get into the mix. So far, no negative feedback thrown my way.

    I talked to our grandson, and they only found the battery, a threaded pen style unit, but not the atomizer, so they don't know what it contained. He used the term "dad stick" for units containing THC liquid. That's a new one on me. I did caution him that these are what was making those kids get sick and die.

    Teens are teens. Most of them survive. we lost a niece at about the same age to leukemia, and she was an angel. Probably never did a thing wrong in her short life. Go figure.

    Yeah, looking back at the stupid things I did as a teen makes me shudder sometimes. Thanks for the replies!
     

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    IDK crazy sometimes don't like crazy, or so I hear. I very much doubt I would love a diehard smoker who was gonna flip over vape equipment from her own child.

    I'm sorry your niece was angelic and died but perhaps she hated it here. Who knows.

    I will say this, if you raise your kids RIGHT, you don't got to worry AS MUCH about that stuff. NOT in the sense of like.... Your kids will/will not screw up they absolutely will.

    I could see my ex baby daddy's defiance to the Law streak and it was a mile wide. I mean, I did "bad things" but nothing to the extent...l did EVERYTHING within my power to prevent, treat, assist and all else. I know it may not always come off that way, but everyone who knows me says I am an incredible mom. It's because I would die for the little monster, I knew my place (I ALWAYS did what the therapist said and the best one I hired gave me an A minus, I was honored. He also told me if my kid EVER put his hands on me, to do WHATEVER needed including sell my house to put him in military school.) I would have.

    But, he did not, and he had his brush with the law, it was terrifying, awful, and scary. But, the law did not win.

    I think it's also because I have no issues admitting my own mistakes. To the kid. I tell him all the time we are ALL human we ALL screw up and we ALL make mistakes. As long as we are all upright, and sometimes not even then, we can get through.

    It is called a "dab stick" by the way, in case your son needs to know the correct terminology. I don't think anyone's gonna do vitamin E anytime soon too rapidly fatal but yeah, actually, getting a clean nic vape is probably easier than a THC one.

    This is one time in our children's youth I wish we could just go back to good old Mexican (censored) weed, seeds and all. You couldn't get high enough to go into paroxysms and provided you knew what oregano smelled like, you' d be gold.

    However, I'd be unlikely to blame my dad's (non existent) vaping on my son's now (non existent) vaping. I blamed myself entirely, as it was I the three ppd smoker whom I am sure he needed very much better cigarette protection from.

    That's what I mean by "run in families" it's not JUST genetics, it's environmental. It takes a LOT of effort and learning to step outside your programming and say, "This may be messed UP, I better go pay someone who does what I do to find OUT." My favorite thing about my therapist is not she is better, smarter, well probably but she has a brain not attached to MY issues. Perspective is great.


    In any case, I wish your grandson all the personality growth good and bad, your grandson is probably approaching and I will pray like I do every night that every kiddo on this earth engaging in risky, scary behaviors is granted the grace (and cunning) to live and grow another day.

    Because, as my therapist promised, I am indeed the happier the older I get. I was like, "Lady you wack." She just laughed and said, "Anna, you have dealt with many of the adult things many adults don't even THINK about. Also, you did bipolar so congrats. I think you will find that things may not always be EASY, but you will survive and thrive." My spiritual mommy is such a sweetheart. And, I actually called my REAL mommy to wish her a happy Valentine's day and upon observation she had done far better than either my dad or my stepdad both of whom.. Well, my mom loved me more. She was very touched, actually, It was an odd moment,. I may cry at the funeral after all.

    Anna
     

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    There are times I just wish I lived back when everyone smoked and it was like, healthy for you type thing. Like, you got the TB and then the doctor told you to smoke more, to "fortify your lungs" and gave you patent medicines and you went to Sanitoriums and stuff.

    Course, they'd put me in the crazy house long before that happened, and who knows, perhaps a frontal lobotomy would take away the part of my personality that wanted to smoke, you just NEVER know. I don't know for sure, but like I don't think they let you smoke there and they made you freaking GARDEN. I would not have fit in.

    Also the freezing cold baths would not have agreed with me EITHER. I'm like a cat when it comes to cold water, and I thought the ocean was gross LONG before I knew about all the ACTUAL pollutants.

    Yeah, maybe I'm good. LOL.
    Anna
     
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