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Perfectionist

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Who wrote your answers for you in your response to rolygate ? Sounds very like Intellicig dogma.
How's business Dave. Not so good huh ?
Oh hang on. Your the troll who was banned from UK Vapers are you not ?
For doing exactly what your doing here but also for being very rude to the Members.
Good going. You've really got to be a bad troll to get banned from there. :laugh:
Replying at 2.30am Jason ?? How very sad and lonely of you !! :laugh:

Were you staying up late so you can dream up another E-NI style idea that will put vaping further in jeopardy? Or were you adding some more cartoons to your website so it’s even easier for the Anti-vaping lobby to make the "appeals to children" argument? :rolleyes:

Dude, you really need to stop thinking everyone is your arch-rivals IntelliCrap – your nemesis "Shoe Shining Wit" loves me so much that he deletes my posts ...... because he's terrified of my Sig !! But of course you know this already as you instantly got CrossBore and Jackie Brown to ban me from UKVapers for exactly the same reason !! (calling the place UKVendors would be far more accurate! :p)

My Sig really does make you Rip Off Merchants lose sleep at night - as you've demonstrated !! :D

Anyhoozle - apart from irrelevant trolling, do you have anything to add to this thread in reference to its title - no wait, you must think the MHRA's attempt to clamp down on E-cigs is just "dogma" eh Einstein? ;)
 

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Replying at 2.30am Jason ?? How very sad and lonely of you !! :laugh:

Were you staying up late so you can dream up another E-NI style idea that will put Vaping further in jeopardy? Or were you adding some more cartoons to your website so it’s even easier for the Anti-Vaping lobby to make the "appeals to children" argument? :rolleyes:

Dude, you really need to stop thinking everyone is your arch-rivals IntelliCrap – your nemesis "Shoe Shining Wit" loves me so much that he deletes my posts ...... because he's terrified of my Sig !! But of course you know this already as you instantly got CrossBore and Jackie Brown to ban me from UKVapers for exactly the same reason !! (calling the place UKVendors would be far more accurate! :p)

My Sig really does make you Rip Off Merchants lose sleep at night - as you've demonstrated !! :D

Anyhoozle - apart from irrelevant trolling, do you have anything to add to this thread in reference to its title - no wait, you must think the MHRA's attempt to clamp down on E-cigs is just "dogma" eh Einstein? ;)

Keep it comin' dude :laugh: I'm getting closer. :D
 

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Comes to something when the other forums are banning people but they are OK with ECF... Makes you question your whole perspective on life, the universe, and everything, eh dude? (sorry I mean geezer)

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And stop knocking Jason, he sells reliable stuff and it works well. If it costs me a buck or two more than buying from China, so what. It's here in 2 days and it keeps working. It doesn't take 3 weeks to get here then half of it is DOA.
 
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I have no idea what is going on here, but his signature doesn't seem that bad.

£15 for 100ml of flavoured juice at 18mg. If you head over to TECC their current sale means you can get 90ml of 18MG juice, with your own DV concentrate/PG for about £20 shipped. Now if you don't need the flavour or the mix, it is just £14 + £2 postage for 30ML of 54mg PI. If you buy the multipacks of 3 bottles, it comes down to £12.

I have also bought from Intellicig in the past, I believe it is £120 for 600ML of Krystal and £20 for the 600ML of Ecomix. That is roughly 1200ML of 18MG for £140. Which works out at about £11.50 per 100ML which is much cheaper than is in the signature.
 

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I agree with your points on the re-sold Chinese stuff. Such as drip tips, batteries and atomisers. I always order from China as the UK shops do seem a little expensive lol

Being honest though, a lot of people are kind of fearful of buying from abroad and well.. That is their problem, not mine or the re-sellers.

Thousands of UK eBay shops earn a living daily doing drop shipping, some of them drop-ship Amazon products, others DealExtreme etc. One search on Google Products would often result in a price cheaper than the Buy It Now auctions some people purchase. Yet again though, that is their fault for not shopping around.

If I had an online shop, I would do the same thing. Whether it is dishonest or not, basically this is how capitalism works. I know people in real life who go shopping in the supermarket and buy these special offer items without even realising they are saving 1p yet purchasing twice as much as they would usually. Or even better, those people who go to shopping malls and purchase an item in the first shop they look in, seven shops later they find the same item for half price and if they had looked online it would of been cheaper again.

I understand your point, but lets be realistic here. Unless your some sort of saint or have no idea how to run a business.. Your going to charge as much for your items as possible, and if the customers come to you and get 'ripped-off' that is not really your fault hehe

I guess there is always that argument that TW and others have become pretty big and quite quickly, hiring staff at above minimum wage is going to eat into your profits. Especially when they are being paid triple or even more than the same worker in the east. The costs to run a business over here, I think it is fair to say, more costly than the same type of business in China would be.

So even if they did lower their prices to a more reasonable level, I doubt it would be as dramatic as some of the China prices. Plus if it puts their businesses future at risk due to a huge loss in profits.. I am not so sure I would like to see that.

So yeah, I am sure TW would prefer it if people like me and you purchased from them more regularly and at the higher prices. Obviously this is not going to happen as long as we can get the same quality stuff from China for less than half the price. So if TW etc want to take us as customers away from the eastern distributors/resellers they will obviously have to adapt and evolve as a business.

If the products they sold were manufactured in the UK by UK workers then I am sure more of us would shop there, even if it is more pricey. I am sure they are aware of this and once they have enough money, I am sure they will be setting up a site to manufacture their own goods. If not, then someone else will.
 
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Dude, you need to keep a close eye on Mr E-NI's YouTube videos - cos you can bet the the Anti-Vaping lobby are, with great delight :facepalm:

Vaping doesn't need enemies when it's got friends like Jason Crapper :(

Vaping does not need things like you either (if you are actually a Vaper which i doubt). If your such an Expert on the Vaping Industry why don't you start your own Business and show them all how to do it properly ?
You only need some Nicotine, PG, and (as your friends in Italy are using) some stale VG and a Bathtub and a few more bits and pieces and your up and running. :D
Sorry. Can't poke you with a stick through the bars of your cage anymore tonight. The sun is coming up and i need to be in the dark.
I do feel sorry for you sad people who have to live in the daytime.

ps. We don't have an Anti-Vaping lobby in the UK. That is an Americanism.
We have GlaxcoSmithKline as i'm sure you know.
 

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Toby

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Seriously dude, why not spill the beans - are you :

a) Jason Crapper himself?
b) one of his employees?
c) one of his investors?
d) one of his relatives or friends?
I am wondering if you actually believe any of these are valid questions (or possibly true), or whether it is just another way to have a go at Jason Cropper (whom I have zero affiliation with, in case you're wondering that too) ?
 

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Well, personaly this thread is quite amusing. bit miffed with the bit about spelling and punctuation though. Mr Perfectionist you obviously were not taught in the early 70's by hippy teachers.

However if any one to vent you could give me some help against the american gun lobby over in the poles forum

a wee boy from glagow against half the US is a tad one sided!
but hey
 

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Even more intriguing Toby Wan Kenobi, is why you would be concerned about anyone criticising Mr. ENI - he is after all your direct competitor, whose ongoing 50% sale is gonna cost you a pretty penny! ...... and of course, his idiotic idea of rebranding E-cigs with the word Nicotine in the middle, may very soon put you out of business altogether !! 8-o
Essentially it's because I have respect for (practically) anyone in the trade who is supplying e-cigs, they are all a service to the community; even if his sale at the moment is at the detriment of my own sales...
But he obviously wants to shift a lot of stock quick, for whatever reason(s)...

Perhaps you should reassess the situation and give your support to ECITA, instead of .........s like Jeopardising-Jason (and his partner in crime Crusader-Kate) ....... ?? :2c:
Good point; but I think anyone (or body, or trade group) who is trying to promote e-smoking, and its freedom, should be given support, as long as their actions are carried out in an ethical manner.

That's why I support your aspirations Mr P... ;)
 
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