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Big Me

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How true??

South east for me, where the money ain’t ;)

I’m living life in the country nowadays, its weird
I’m not true any more :(

Bred, born and brought-up in London and still haven't left. Ok, truth be told, I'm ruddy well stuck here whether I like it or not! Lol

Advantage of being here: Public Transport (because I can't drive).

Disavantage: Being surrounded by pretentious gits who think that being in London is the be-all and end-all. (And I'm talking about other Brits.)
 

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Cockney rhyming slang is such an inefficient form of communication. At least three syllables for every one in normalspeak.

It was meant to be - it was almost a secret speak used by market traders and costermongers ( barrow boys) and thieves too, originally so that they could talk and exchange information amongst themselves without outsiders knowing what was going on. Travelling people have their own tongue for much the same reasons.

And though I am Scots this is in no way said disparagingly - my beloved father originated from Landor Road, Stockwell London. He could speak Cockney, though he didn't normally, as he spent most of his life after the War in Scotland.

And again no disparagement about the thieves bit either ... Dad was well qualified to say this, as after he came out of the army, he joined the Prison Service and retired as a Class 1 Governor.
 

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Disavantage: Being surrounded by pretentious gits who think that being in London is the be-all and end-all. (And I'm talking about other Brits.)

Oh trust me they get everywhere!

This is why in Spain I live in a Spanish Street with Spanish neighbours - my worst nightmare would be to be cooped up in a gated "urbanisation" with a bunch of these "expats" ( as they style themselves, rather than "immigrants") who really wish the Spanish would run Spain "properly like wot we do in Engerland" and never miss an opportunity to say so.
 
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I'm originally from Sussex but have lived permanently in France since 2007. When we originally bought the house (in a very small rural village) in 1997 there were hardly any foreigners in the area but that has changed to some extent. In fact the houses either side of us are now holiday homes - Irish one side and Londoners the other, and all lovely people.
 

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It was meant to be - it was almost a secret speak used by market traders and costermongers ( barrow boys) and thieves too, originally so that they could talk and exchange information amongst themselves without outsiders knowing what was going on. Travelling people have their own tongue for much the same reasons.

And though I am Scots this is in no way said disparagingly - my beloved father originated from Landor Road, Stockwell London. He could speak Cockney, though he didn't normally, as he spent most of his life after the War in Scotland.

And again no disparagement about the thieves bit either ... Dad was well qualified to say this, as after he came out of the army, he joined the Prison Service and retired as a Class 1 Governor.
Oh, I know it had purpose as code. But, jeez, if you're up to no good, shouldn't you want to take care of it quickly?
 
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Oh, I know it had purpose as code. But, jeez, if you're up to no good, shouldn't you want to take of it quickly?

They did - they wouldn't have said, went up the "apples and stairs" they'd have said "went up the apples cos was kinda dick" etc; the whole thing about cant was everybody in the "In group" knew the full thing but shortened it to the point of making it incomprehensible to those in the "Out Group."

Those of us who learned our Spanish at college where we were taught Castellano found something similar when we hit Al Andalu down here which you just begin to learn when you hit upon the fact that any "s" is not said.

Many years ago, we wondered what the hell was happening when our next door neighbour Anna leaned over the balcony and shouted what sounded like "OOH, OOH" followed by modulated sound; at first we thought she was either in pain or having an orgasm - in fact she was shouting down to her husband Jesus that his tea was ready and it was about time he got himself up to eat it instead of lurking down there with his pigeons!
 

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Cockney rhyming slang is such an inefficient form of communication. At least three syllables for every one in normalspeak.

You don't use the entire phrase when speaking in slang. I'll edit vapdivrr's post to show how it would be spoken.

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Just had me a dig in the grave, been feeling a little tom and dick because I lost my syrup of fig. Getting tired of these apple and pears in me old age.

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Just had me a dig, been feeling a little tom coz I lost me syrup. Getting tired of these apples in me old age.

If you heard the second version would you know what they were saying?
 
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I would - but as I've said Dad came from roond there - which is the whole idea.

Its the same the world over really - "Da mettama irawarr whin he waz woondit at yon ElAlammain an'wizat Stoabs an'shewuzat ra Curlin'wi'Poand an'he wuzouta his truckfir supplies and she'da chookieana pig whithewantit an'bocht!" - translate from Auld Scots!
 
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You don't use the entire phrase when speaking in slang. I'll edit vapdivrr's post to show how it would be spoken.

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spoken


If you heard the second version would you know what they were saying?
Not bad though from an American

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It's definitely fair to say but I agree he probably delegates a lot of the responsibilities to others. I saw him a while ago interviewed as a vaping advocate so he's still certainly involved :)

I wish he'd get around to delegating the member verification.
 
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You don't use the entire phrase when speaking in slang. I'll edit vapdivrr's post to show how it would be spoken.

original


spoken


If you heard the second version would you know what they were saying?
B
Nein. Some I know, though "barnet" is the only one that comes to mind at the moment.
 

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Grew up in Sunderland. Lived in London for 20 years before I moved across the Atlantic. My family were from Scotland. Been thinking of moving back there now I'm retired. Northumberland or south east Scotland. Maybe Scotland won't even be part of the UK by the time I get around to it.
 
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